Mults and saboteurs ruining the game

[neajohn 0]

These days you show us the v2 of TO. But you forget to solve the REAL problem of the game. Almost every game, I encounter a mult or a saboteur. It is really frustrating to lose this way.

 

For example today, in a 300 CP battle, the result was in our favor by ~10CP 110-100, something like that. At some point, KAPTO4HbIU.DOMUK joined our team then result was dramatically changed. He is using a keyboard/mouse autocliker to never leave the game. We have complained (voted him), but a moderator banned him after more than 1h, at the end of game when the other team had almost 100CP against us and was impossible to recover such a big disadvantage. Moderator banned KAPTO4HbIU.DOMUK for just ONE DAY. Just ONE DAY for a saboteur, a mocker, for someone insulting us all the game? Come on guys... These accounts, must be banned for at least 2 weeks for the first abuse and for ever the next one.

 

If all team players are voting against one player the system must drop it automatically. It is so easy, why TO team is doing nothing to solve these issues?

Edited October 13, 2015 by neajohn

[wild001 786]

mostly time, mult acc are the one you got from hacking website,

 

you may already know there are tons of fake tanki website collecting username and password, and those mult acc are mostly likely not their own acc,

 

they just use someone's acc as the victim,

 

in the end, the innocent victim who got hacked got their acc banned, and the real multing user are still alive and just loading another mult into the game.

 

 

banning forever is no use, as they have consistent supply of hacked accs for use in those multing battle, and you never really know, who on the enemy side is actually controlling those mults. maybe the same guy or their friends who in charge of multing.

 

 

that is a long issue in all online game, so called "Black Battle or Rigged battle", all the fighters you think on your team may actually all be possible controlled by enemy team, you are the only person who dont know the situation,

 

till last minute, you suddenly realize all your teammates changing to wasp and isida with weak paint, and you know you are in a big 1-hour trap. same for XP battle, pro battle, normal battle.

 

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solution, play with friends, or be smart on choosing battles, and play 15 min short battle only,

 

 

---- from a experienced generalismo who have survived/avoided/escaped too many such battles.

[wild001 786]

 

If all team players are voting against one player the system must drop it automatically. It is so easy, why TO team is doing nothing to solve these issues?

 

the voting system have been there before, and no use,

 

do you know how many times I have been voted out in battle even when I was playing hornestly?

 

same issue as i mention before, those rigged battle have enemy placed in both team, sometimes even top 3 score fighters from both side are friends, (especially true in those rigged super long 1 hour + battle )

 

they keep switch side of team to keep the battle alive to build up scores, and they vote out any hornest players that playing so good and can be threaten to their crystal share. so they vote people out, and leaving only noob/weak players in game to build up their fund.

 

 

they are normally a team of 6-8 people, and with 1000+ drugs and tons of mult acc ready to weak enemy team and storm the battle fund once battle comes into half of the time.

 

as the losing team leaving , they place in mult one by one to drive everybody away. and drug heavily to take over all the fund.

 

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once you understand that, you should learn the pattern of game, especially true on generalismo rank, and especially true on those high rank servers.

[drazeruzumaki 5,021]

50% =  mults

Edited October 13, 2015 by drazeruzumaki

[neajohn 0]

wild001, I appreciate your experience but work a little to your smart-man attitude. I personally don't like it.

Well, I like long games and avoiding them is not a solution. I also don't want to guess what General is mult/saboteur and which one not. TO team must do something to solve these problems because this is happening almost each game.

 

 

1. I bet there are not so many generallissimo accounts hacked because player has some experience. If account is hacked, this an extra reason to block that account. When the right owner appears, TO team may unlock it without problem and raise any limitation.

2. That voting system was bad, I agree. I was talking about a voting system where all players from the team are voting against a mult. For this all slots must be occupied.

[dilsharox 2,395]

50% =  mults

25%

[wild001 786]

wild001, I appreciate your experience but work a little to your smart-man attitude. I personally don't like it.

Well, I like long games and avoiding them is not a solution. I also don't want to guess what General is mult/saboteur and which one not. TO team must do something to solve these problems because this is happening almost each game.

 

 

1. I bet there are not so many generallissimo accounts hacked because player has some experience. If account is hacked, this an extra reason to block that account. When the right owner appears, TO team may unlock it without problem and raise any limitation.

2. That voting system was bad, I agree. I was talking about a voting system where all players from the team are voting against a mult. For this all slots must be occupied.

 

some generalismo acc are their alt acc.

 

also, for sharing, my experience of encountering those multing raiders again.

 

Last night,

I just lost a battle in 40min, when there was 2 mult doing parkur in our team, and I think I can do win even with them multing in my team, as other team are full of under marshal ranks noob.

 

then when there is 20 min left, 2 more druggers join enemy side with Freeze-Viking-Prodigi, Isida-Viking-Picaso with full drug on and Health kit, (<<< most unbalancing/OP drug in game)

which are unkilled with my rail hornet combo, only my heavy hull teammates can stop them a bit.

 

of course, as our team top score realized this match is a mult-and-rigged battle, 2 of our top score teammates left, (and I know I should jump to opposite side to join those cheaters to avoid too much lost); However, I thought I would camp and survive with current leading 17 flag to 8 flags.

 

but till last 10 min, the cheater made to 17 flags to 17 flags, and I know I will sure lose the match and too late to make the switch, then I stay and fight for my team to avoid the cheating raid team take too much of the fund share.

 

lucky in the end, one of cheaters teammates join our team just for fun (as there is no more slot in enemy side) and make the flag difference to 21 flags to 28 flags

 

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so, my conclusion is the same,

• either join the enemy side or leave early,
• otherwise, fight hard with teammates if they are strong enough, (chance of successfully defending againt raid is very low, I only won 3 out 10 against these kind of raid, also requires you to have teammates who can put a lot of mines and with heavy hulls twins and isida/hammer campers)

I knew it is a trap from start, since it is common to see

• 40min+ long battles
• enemy start with surprisely weak teammates (m1s)
• 2 mults in our team
• generalismo with m1 hull in our team (even if they are making kills and heal you well)

after half of the time, enemy will switch to drugger combo and more mult into our side.

 

the only way to stop them continue their tricks is MULTing against them,

 

when they start switching their weak teammates, place your mult/friend into enemy side quickly, then their main drugger got no slot to coming,. 

 

that is the only solution to counter multing raid, which proved to be working if you have like 5-6 alt lower rank acc or friends on call that can enter the battle, 

 

Edited October 15, 2015 by wild001

[neajohn 0]

wild001, your idea is too complicated. It's not our job to fight cheaters. TO team must take more aggressive measures against cheaters. Few hundreds generalissimo abusive accounts closed then game will be back to the normal.

[neajohn 0]

As for "the real person controlling the game", it's easy to identify based on IP access.

[SpaceCowboy18 1,562]

If you see Sabotage or players Multing record video of it and report it to Game Violators. 

[wild001 786]

If you see Sabotage or players Multing record video of it and report it to Game Violators. 

 

for 200 crystal lost in that battle, it is not worth my extra 30 mins to record and update to youtube and post in report,

 

also those mult are quite smart these days, they just

 

  * pretend to be poor skills

  * miss their shots

  * kill random guy

  * just go to die directly using wasp by jumping into enemy base camp, while main drugger are attacking

  * get supply drops and camp in corner, (get double power when they are 0 health)

[SpaceCowboy18 1,562]

It was for the topic starter  :mellow:

[Amateur 829]

Just enjoy the game!
We all face mults especially in generallisimo battles. What is even worse is that there are gold mults, people who mult the whole game, but be active only in gold.

I lost a lot of games due to mults , but I just move on and join another battle.

Sometimes, mults benefit you if they are on the other team, so cheer up! It is not that bad :)

 

[neajohn 0]

If you see Sabotage or players Multing record video of it and report it to Game Violators. 

I know this, but I don't want to record the game. I don't care of crystals and so on, I simply want to enjoy the game, to play a real game and to not be frustrated for losing because someone is a hacker or a mult.

TO team must do something.

[neajohn 0]

Another way of sabotage is to close the browser without properly leaving the game. The system is waiting for you up to 5 minutes. In the meantime the team will play with one mate less because the system will not allow other player joining. After few minutes saboteur will log in, then again leave.

For short games this is disaster and, to prevent this, if you close the browser, even if you lose connection, the game must make room immediately for other player. In PRO battles a new checkbox for immediate drop must be added.

 

Tankionline, do you hear me? Or I'm simply complaining for nothing?

[wild001 786]

Another way of sabotage is to close the browser without properly leaving the game. The system is waiting for you up to 5 minutes. In the meantime the team will play with one mate less because the system will not allow other player joining. After few minutes saboteur will log in, then again leave.

For short games this is disaster and, to prevent this, if you close the browser, even if you lose connection, the game must make room immediately for other player. In PRO battles a new checkbox for immediate drop must be added.

 

Tankionline, do you hear me? Or I'm simply complaining for nothing?

 

 

that tricks are well known to those saboteurs,

 

but fix that wont help much either,

 

imagine you enter the such pro battles in a 100 flag battle and you are winning in 90 flags with big scores, and suddently your Flash crash and the browser freezed, you will hate yourself to have that feature requested.

[ajitvik 231]

If you see Sabotage or players Multing record video of it and report it to Game Violators. 

recording is absolutely stupid.so basically you record the person following everywhere and losing out on your game time and precious crystals.why is that a player has to do al that? why do we pay tankionline?we pay tankionline for making a perfect game!

[ajitvik 231]

Just enjoy the game!

We all face mults especially in generallisimo battles. What is even worse is that there are gold mults, people who mult the whole game, but be active only in gold.

 

I lost a lot of games due to mults , but I just move on and join another battle.

 

Sometimes, mults benefit you if they are on the other team, so cheer up! It is not that bad :)

 

 

most times they are not..tankionline no wonder never is on any mmo list outside russia...

 

and ofcourse i stopped putting money because company just has no tools to fix multing problem neither do they address it.

[neajohn 0]

that tricks are well known to those saboteurs,

 

but fix that wont help much either,

 

imagine you enter the such pro battles in a 100 flag battle and you are winning in 90 flags with big scores, and suddently your Flash crash and the browser freezed, you will hate yourself to have that feature requested.

Browser crash is not happening frequently to me maybe once a month, but sabotage is happening each day. If this can't be enabled for all games, it should be at least for PRO battles as an extra checkbox.