Invalid See which servers have chat moderators

[epanastasi1821 80]

Thank you for all the reponses, partcularly from the mods. I understand everyones point of view, but feel it does not detract from my original point. If the mods want to remain anonymous then they could use different tags for policing the servers rather than their usual nicknames. I definately understand that they can get overwelmed with daft questions etc. and have no answer to that right now, but maybe bringing back consultants is the right way forward. ( I don't remember consultants myself and never knew they ever existed until now. Maybe I just didn't notice when I was a newbie!)

[crayonpink 1]

I wonder if you could be a mod and it your official job and you get paid and so on :)

[epanastasi1821 80]

I wonder if you could be a mod and it your official job and you get paid and so on :)

No. From what I understand they only get paid in crystals.

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

I wonder if you could be a mod and it your official job and you get paid and so on :)

On the way in which staff members are payed is not appropriate to ask in public.

 

Besides: The applications are closed!

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

On the way in which staff members are payed is not appropriate to ask in public.

 

Besides: The applications are closed!

It's not just in public either. It's somthing you don't ask PERIOD.

And the pay shouldn't be your main concern anyway, if you're gonna do a job, do it the best you can. Regardless of you getting paid or not.

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

It's not just in public either. It's somthing you don't ask PERIOD.

And the pay shouldn't be your main concern anyway, if you're gonna do a job, do it the best you can. Regardless of you getting paid or not.

:)  You should quote this:

 

I wonder if you could be a mod and it your official job and you get paid and so on :)

Not me, I did not ask anything :)

[RustyNail 1,538]

It's not just in public either. It's somthing you don't ask PERIOD.

And the pay shouldn't be your main concern anyway, if you're gonna do a job, do it the best you can. Regardless of you getting paid or not.

In your village man. In mine, it's the company's obligation to inform people for staff earnings. How on earth can one know if one wants to be a staff member if one doesn't know if and what one's reward will it be.

So don't be so touchy about it.

Of course, I fully agree with you in your last sentence. :)

[Quarks 2,255]

I preferred the the chat mods without icons, as then people would not be spamming them with pointless stuff. I have seen it, and it looks terrible, I do not think that I could deal with that.

[SpeedyRailgun 183]

Amm.

TO needs more moderators because now /vote offender means spent time in battle! nothing more

Im playing this game for realy long. When i see jumphacker, im always doing /vote , when i see wallhack, i use /vote

Moderators who have seen my reports on forums always will see that, i have used /vote. Sometimes multiple times

 

There should be system what blocks moderators screen when someone uses /vote so this moderator HAVE to join this game from any server.

 

Last time when i found wallhack i camed into forums and i typed pm to 1 of chat moderators to check him whenever that player plays tanki!

 

That wallhacker was using hornet+railgun in monte carlo.

 

Everyone reported him... Nothing hapened.

 

Maybe month or 2 months ago i used /vote to another wallhacker, because take screenshot is realy hard against wallhackers and i maked a video what shows me black screen for no reason...

 

 

More mods or system what wont lot them ignore /vote

[SpeedyRailgun 183]

 

If you want to report a hacker, use the Game Violations section. That is the official way to report game violations and the way that properly documents complaints in the forum. 

 

What mods are banning everything? I haven't seen any mods banning everything, where are your examples? Where is a player who was violating the rules but didn't get banned? Which is it? Mods ban everything or they don't ban anything, because you are saying both, but they both can't be true. We have rules in this Game, those who break them are dealt with, and you haven't given a single example of mods not dealing with something, or, alternatively, banning too much. At this point I don't really know what your goal is, but you appear to just be trolling.

 

Again, where is an example of someone violating the rules that wasn't dealt with promptly?

 

Amm. There on youtube was troll montage or funny moments from 1 popular youtuer. Maybe pizzarrific or prince_TO, i dont know, but in the ending of video he showed game chat and it was full with account bans for 6 months for anyone, who have typed anything.

[P_U_N_I_S_H_E_R 732]

Speaking only for myself I often (but not always) like to maintain a low profile when monitoring servers for chat violators.  As soon as players see me chat on a server they notice the chat mod icon and I get flooded with questions and players who just want to chat with a mod.  90% of the questions have nothing to do with mod work.  10% of the questions actually need help.

 

When I try to focus on those 10% the other 90% start asking things like "are you going to answer me?",  "answer me!!!!",  "you are a bad mod because you don't answer me", etc.  It doesn't seem to matter to them that they can see me responding to players as quickly as I can.  Also, many of the questions asked of me need a link to the forum and/or Tanki help pages that require me to go to the forum or help pages and I am no longer looking at chat and the questions and comments that are rolling in at me.

 

When I get back to chat more players are upset I haven't responded to them.  And while doing this I'm supposed to be reading every comment made in chat looking for swearing or other crude references.  Players may see I missed someone swear and they wonder why the chat mod isn't doing what they are supposed to be doing.

 

Nearly all of the players who need help could help themselves if they were to read Tanki's help page for a couple of minutes.  

http://help.tankionline.com

 

For the players who just want to chat -- sorry, I'm busy trying to do my job.

 

For players that have a mult in their battle, a saboteur, or a hacker in their battle (jump, no reload, etc.), sorry -- those aren't the responsibilities of the chat mods.  Those problems need to be reported to the staff group Game_Violators.  The only way to get a hold of them is the /vote command.  Unfortunately the Game_Violators group can't get to every battle where someone has been voted but this is a whole new topic within itself that I'm not involved in.

 

 

Advertise on the server which chat mod is there?  No.  Bad idea for reasons I've already mentioned.

 

If you want to complain about a chat mod send a PM in the forum to a chat admin.  Ostrica or Shar0n

 

( List of chat mods and chat admins.  http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=283955  )

( List of Game_Violators group and their admins.  http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=294730  )

Okay, but why can a feature not be added such that it would allow all players to ask a consultant or such any question they have, game related or not? In my mind the mods are only to be talked to if the chat is calm and they seem willing to talk, which is rare... Just would be nice if there was a middle aged "consultant" that players could talk to about ANYTHING, especially while players in a certain server are few and far between.

[Scientist 4,224]

Okay, but why can a feature not be added such that it would allow all players to ask a consultant or such any question they have

Help Site

[blacksouleater 190]

That would be a start.

[P_U_N_I_S_H_E_R 732]

When moderators are working on the servers, they prefer to be anonymous. If you then have a complaint about a moderator banning (this means it's a chat mod) you can contact a chat admin and they will sort out any issue.

I think what he is getting at, is if we want to complain, we must know who to complain about. This is why we should know the name of all mods in a server at any given time.

[P_U_N_I_S_H_E_R 732]

I think what he is getting at is just knowing that a mod is online, not necessarily knowing who. Because there have plenty of times when I have tried to report someone, but no mod was online, so they could not get banned. This then forces me to go through the painful process of reporting somebody in the forum. I think just knowing one is online, even if incognito, would be nice.

True, but you cannot always report via the Forum. For example, if you see powerlevelers, you cannot screenshot this and report them via the Forum, you must directly tell a mod and have him look and ban. So I think this definitely needs to be changed in some way or another. 

[P_U_N_I_S_H_E_R 732]

That's what we're doing with our system of comments, chatting with players and official warns. But we can do that only up to a point, it's really up to a player if he'll get the hints and get acquainted with the rules, or not.  

 

We're not here to chase bans nor to be punishers. We can and will try to prevent offences and educate the players, but we're not police, nor teachers, nor parents of the players. We can do only as much.  

Umm, you're not punishers? If you didn't want to punish people, then why are there mods? The mods job is apparently to sit there for hours on end, watching over the chat, until they find someone and punish them. So you're not punishers, eh?

[P_U_N_I_S_H_E_R 732]

It's not just in public either. It's somthing you don't ask PERIOD.

And the pay shouldn't be your main concern anyway, if you're gonna do a job, do it the best you can. Regardless of you getting paid or not.

No. I am a machinist for a living, that's what I do everyday at my job. Now when you say what you just did, I feel opposite of you completely. Now, please put yourself in the shoes of someone applying for a moderator's position. Tell me, out of all the English chat mods, how many would be doing that if they got nothing in return? The reason I state my occupation, is because this, now, would I get up everyday at 6.00 AM to go to work, even if I was not being paid? No! Yes I agree you should do any job to the best of your ability, but they (generalization here) (Google if unsure of the meaning) would not be moderators, and spent countless hours in the chat, unless they were paid in some form or another. Yes? Yes. My case closed.

[P_U_N_I_S_H_E_R 732]

In your village man. In mine, it's the company's obligation to inform people for staff earnings. How on earth can one know if one wants to be a staff member if one doesn't know if and what one's reward will it be.

So don't be so touchy about it.

Of course, I fully agree with you in your last sentence. :)

Not completely. Yes, if I was searching for a job, but I don't know how much I will be paid (at all), I will not even bother with that job. Why would I? I'm not a slave, I won't work for free, and I feel I should be informed how much it is I would be paid. Yes I agree they should be less touchy about it. For example, if you ask a mod does he get paid, he says "we don't discuss it", so you KNOW that they get paid, or they would simply say "No"

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

Not completely. Yes, if I was searching for a job, but I don't know how much I will be paid (at all), I will not even bother with that job. Why would I? I'm not a slave, I won't work for free, and I feel I should be informed how much it is I would be paid. Yes I agree they should be less touchy about it. For example, if you ask a mod does he get paid, he says "we don't discuss it", so you KNOW that they get paid, or they would simply say "No"

Moderators are not paid with the real money, but the crystals as you can read here Do moderators get paid in crystals. And therefore it can not be seen exactly as a real job.

 

I think the moderators / administrators should not be seen as employees, but as fellow players who have already pass some "test". And yes, they have "powers" to prevent anarchy and to help players.

 

That is why, when applying for a moderator an important question: Why do you want to be a Chat (or Forum) Moderator?

[P_U_N_I_S_H_E_R 732]

Moderators are not paid with the real money, but the crystals as you can read here Do moderators get paid in crystals. And therefore it can not be seen exactly as a real job.

 

I think the moderators / administrators should not be seen as employees, but as fellow players who have already pass some "test". And yes, they have "powers" to prevent anarchy and to help players.

 

That is why, when applying for a moderator an important question: Why do you want to be a Chat (or Forum) Moderator?

I know this.

 

I never said it was a real job, I was comparing it to my real job, because, I would not work anywhere, doing anything, if I was not paid.

 

Yes, I completely agree.

[Moraine 5,877]

Umm, you're not punishers? If you didn't want to punish people, then why are there mods? The mods job is apparently to sit there for hours on end, watching over the chat, until they find someone and punish them. So you're not punishers, eh?

Mods are there to help. If someone is breaking the rules, of course they will act, but their role is not to sit and wait for someone to violate the rules in order to ban him/her. So no, we're not punishers, we're friendly neighbours :) 

[P_U_N_I_S_H_E_R 732]

Mods are there to help. If someone is breaking the rules, of course they will act, but their role is not to sit and wait for someone to violate the rules in order to ban him/her. So no, we're not punishers, we're friendly neighbours :)

Not in my opinion. Then why do they not always answer when asked a legitimate question? I guess it could be too many dumb questions that they get asked but still, help the ones who actually should be helped.

[Moraine 5,877]

Because the are not Encyclopaedia Britannica, and they do not have the answers to all questions. Nor they should serve as info booth.

 

For that, Tanki provided wiki and Help pages, you're welcome to search for the answers to all your questions there.  

[canadian_tank 226]

I have had a quite frustrating evening trying to find out who is moderating a certain server, and then trying to engage with them. Also I had a problem with not being able to converse with another moderator who appeared. SO, my idea is to advertise on the server which moderator is policing the server so we know who to complain to - or about.

Um, moderators can be at any severs but here idea

In-game, there can be a special icon beside friends where it tracks what sever online moderators are on, this way it will be easier to contact them

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

Um, moderators can be at any severs but here idea

In-game, there can be a special icon beside friends where it tracks what sever online moderators are on, this way it will be easier to contact them

Chat moderators have already said that they prefer to stay anonymously on the server, because it is easier and more effective for them to operate anonymously. And you suggest something completely opposite of what they want.