Changes to micro-upgrades

SlowPow_3 · November 14, 2015

"Developers made it so that we won't be wasting as many crystals to get a full M3 garage. Let's drown them in our hate!"

Here is what Semyon Kirov said, on page 2 (top of the page.) In the comments: We had to make a choice between simplicity + better price OR ability to choose lower grades. We picked the first one, as it clearly gives you more advantages.

Link: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=285725&page=2

Why pick and choose. I think both options should been available. :huh:

Replied to comment (top of this page)

Regards SlowPow (Sergeant-Major) sorry for blending white. It was from an email to the: help@tankionline

Edited November 14, 2015 by SlowPow_3

swede1 · November 14, 2015

I have been looking for a silver lining buried in this update, but I don't see anything good coming from it.

I've been roaming battles and it has mostly been chaos, battles have gotten even more one sided.

The general feeling is that this where you are in the game and you no longer have the ability to advance.

Is this a reflection of the Russian economy? hording the gold, devaluation of crystals, and forcing the players to starve and serving champagne and caviar to the rich.

Take the analogy of the father working hard all week, he has enough to buy a roast for his family's Sunday dinner, now the store says to buy the roast, you must buy ice cream, cake, and vodka. So now he can only buy bread and cabbage.

The family will not starve but their quality of life has just been destroyed.

tanker.Spanker · November 14, 2015

"Developers made it so that we won't be wasting as many crystals to get a full M3 garage. Let's drown them in our hate!"

MAFIOS0, yes. The opportunity to skip modifications based on rank, without having to pay for the skipped modification is indeed saving crystal/money for players. Very good update that was!

But, even this case exposes the trickiness about personal choice. What Here2Play is pointing out is that the update made it IMPOSSIBLE for the M3-qualified player to advance from M1 to M2 if the player WANTED to.

The M2 modification, in this case, could have remained an option for ZERO crystals. This would have allowed the play to improve equipment INCREMENTALLY, rather than be forced to shell out crystals for a significant not-yet-desired improvement. Some players(people) like to control how "fast" things move. You know? They like to relax and enjoy the ride. Tanki managers/developers are obviuosly in a rush to get somewhere.

As I indicated above however, I think the update was well-intentioned (if only by some developers).

This most recent Micro-upgrade update however, reveals an interesting obliviousness on the part of management, of the importance of choice to players.

Player choice is what made Tanki special.Physics and gameplay make it relatable,realistic. Player individuality made it special.

These rants should indicate to managent how much players CARED about Tanki. We cared because we were allowed to put our personality into it.

Edited November 14, 2015 by tanker.Spanker

blackeagle-4 · November 14, 2015

Paying moneys on your account does not allow you to break the Game Rules - sharing an account is punished with the permanent block of it, no matter of excuses. When you joined the Game, you read the Rules and agreed on them, so if you broke them you get the needed punishment.

What about the 3 years I have wasted on ? Beside, the EULA rules were not there at time when I have signed up for the game.

Hope nothing similar will happen to your life, but wish you try to realize how does it feel for losing something you used to take care of its every single inch.

Sympathy is important for humans to understand each others, and thus, to solve conflicts.

Thank you

Edited November 14, 2015 by blackeagle-4

Colonial_Marines · November 14, 2015

It is a very sad day, the 2nd day after the crazy MU update. It is not simply because my tank was messed up with the unwilling updated parameters. It is because I don't see the future of my tank and my day in Tanki.

I am a non-buyer, my rank is still low, I own only M0 and M1 equipment and they are MU to a certain degree. What about when I rank up and get higher modifications equipment. I don't see I can do good MU for my need; I may only do some MU like 15/50 to a max of 20/50 on the equipment and play with it, with some parameters I don't want but some I don't have enough. The thing is a buyer (buying crystals or being premium account) can effort to highly or fully MU the tanks. My point is with the old MU system, I can MU my tank in the way I can compete with buyers and someone with higher ranks. For example: I may have a turret with damage fully MU and can kill easily, or a hull with fully MU protection and can fight longer, but now the difference is too large. A 50/50 tank is definitely over power a 20/50 tank. Don't bull snit me with something like if you have better skills you can win. Even I have better skills, my tank in the future would still be a "lower-class" citizen in the game. Why someone with better skill still need to fight in a difficult way and be beaten up badly by someone with worse skills (according to: if I have better skills that means the others have lower skills). I don't see future here. There is no point to play. I know Tanki don't care my leaving, they may even feel happy: "Get lost! You non-buyer! We won!".

November 14, 2015

What about the 3 years I have wasted on ? Beside, the EULA rules were not there at time when I have signed up for the game.

Hope nothing similar will happen to your life, but wish you try to realize how does it feel for losing something you used to take care of its every single inch.

Sympathy is important for humans to understand each others, and thus, to solve conflicts.

Thank you

These three "documents" exist since Tanki Online was released and always contained a Rule against account sharing. Also, you must understand that there is no "ignorance of Rules" - once you register, you agree with these "documents" above and must play following what is written there, otherwise you are forced to leave or, in case you violate them, get an appropriate punishment.

I've been here for 5 years and those were already here. Also, I never got banned nor had issues with what is written in those "documents", I simply read them carefully and followed them strictly.

You are the one that has to change your point of view in this case, since you are on the wrong side, sorry :)

Benefactor · November 14, 2015

MAFIOSO, yes. The opportunity to skip modifications based on rank, without having to pay for the skipped modification is indeed saving crystal/money for players. Very good update that was!

But, even this case exposes the trickiness about personal choice. What Here2Play is pointing out is that the update made it IMPOSSIBLE for the M3-qualified player to advance from M1 to M2 if the player WANTED to.

The M2 modification, in this case, could have remained an option for ZERO crystals. This would have allowed the play to improve equipment INCREMENTALLY, rather than be forced to shell out crystals for a significant not-yet-desired improvement. Some players(people) like to control how "fast" things move. You know? They like to relax and enjoy the ride. Tanki managers/developers are obviuosly in a rush to get somewhere.

As I indicated above however, I think the update was well-intentioned (if only by some developers).

This most recent Micro-upgrade update however, reveals an interesting obliviousness on the part of management, of the importance of choice to players.

Player choice is what made Tanki special.Physics and gameplay make it relatable,realistic. Player individuality made it special.

These rants should indicate to managent how much players CARED about Tanki. We cared because we were allowed to put our personality into it.

Probably means TankiX will be out soon and they probably want to squeeze every drop out of this place as much as they can. Maybe they say no, but that is what it looks like to the majority, especially with this change. They are mistaken if they think most will want to shell out big chunks of currency for upgrades they don't want. The micro-upgrading system was fine as was.

sunhawk · November 14, 2015

The update that added score caps to battles was bad enough, and left a very bad taste in my mouth, but I thought: "whatever, you can still play, it's just extremely annoying." But now? Now I feel raw contempt for the people in charge of this game.

The thing is, I love this game. Freaking love it. We all do. That is why we are so shattered to learn (well, have it confirmed) that the tanki marketers (and developers?) don't give a sh*t about us. They've done their statistical analysis and concluded that this transparently idiotic and nasty-minded change will lead to increased buying of crystals and PAs by the thousands of players who don't think or even pay attention.

jakethedarkofdeath · November 14, 2015

this update is very helpful to my garage,you can upgrade everything more easy than clicking what you want to be upgraded,instead,it just upgrades the whole thing :D

jakethedarkofdeath · November 14, 2015

The thing is, I love this game. Freaking love it. We all do. That is why we are so shattered to learn (well, have it confirmed) that the tanki marketers (and developers?) don't give a sh*t about us. They've done their statistical analysis and concluded that this transparently idiotic and nasty-minded change will lead to increased buying of crystals and PAs by the thousands of players who don't think or even pay attention.

your right,also there's lots of updates ready to come

jakethedarkofdeath · November 14, 2015

Probably means TankiX will be out soon and they probably want to squeeze every drop out of this place as much as they can. Maybe they say no, but that is what it looks like to the majority, especially with this change. They are mistaken if they think most will want to shell out big chunks of currency for upgrades they don't want. The micro-upgrading system was fine as was.

i guess your right

tanker.Spanker · November 14, 2015

The thing is, I love this game. Freaking love it. We all do. That is why we are so shattered to learn (well, have it confirmed) that the tanki marketers (and developers?) don't give a sh*t about us. They've done their statistical analysis and concluded that this transparently idiotic and nasty-minded change will lead to increased buying of crystals and PAs by the thousands of players who don't think or even pay attention.

I remember the days when i could say "Hmm $26 would get me enough crystals" for a particular upgrade/purchase. And then actually go and purchase $26 worth of crystals. Even that freedom was taken away.

Under the current system I would have to spend $39.99 (more than I might be able to afford at the time) or spend $19.99 and just wait until my budget allows me to spend an additional $9.99, by which time the discount I was trying to benefit from has long expired. So maybe I chose to hold my funds and just wait. So while Tanki could have received a $26 purchase, they received ZERO.

And Tanki made this change ostensibly to "simplify". All these "simplifications" are not fooling anyone.

If it becomes MORE DIFFICULT for players to spend real money, then just maybe players would actually FIND IT more difficult?

Is this rocket science?

soldierinduty · November 14, 2015

Hello tankers,

As you have understand i will talk about micro-upgrades(mu).

First of all,i think this update is really good for tankers who want to mu faster their equipment fully all parametres.But what about for those tankers who want to mu 1 or 2 parametres fully only?

Lets take an example my situation.Because i buy only on sales 40-50% and i am general now even with this help of discount the amount of crystals is huge.So i was planning to mu 1 or 2 parametres to have an extra discount on the equipment i want to buy on sales.I was too close to mu some of the parametres fully when suddenly i realised that i must pay 20000(20k) crystals for all of the parametres when i needed to pay only 5000(5k) crystals.

I know what this update helped many tankers who had fully mu 1 at least parametre because now they are available to purchase the next modification for free when they reach the rank they must be.So i dont say this update was failure but a little problematic for those who cant mu fully all parametres.

So i recommend we can have the option to mu like before or like now.

P.S:if someone use the new mu method he will pay more from the price of the next modification so it doesnt worth it to mu fully except if you are buyer and you dont care of paying more

Edited November 14, 2015 by soldierinduty

November 14, 2015

Pages updated :)

deadmanrising · November 14, 2015

Its not too late to change this update, if they don't it will be too late when they really have to

Supernatural · November 14, 2015

Worst update ever. "Going high in MUs make more sense now" Nobody on Earth will spend 10-15k for NOTHING AT EACH UPGRADE!!!!

mogman · November 14, 2015

but i don't want any of the wieght upgrades on my wasp :( every thing else is fine tho. it is just that every time that i upgraded my wieght it was an accident. it hampers my playing style.

Battle-Spire · November 14, 2015

If I knew it was coming, I would have upgraded the cheapest parameters of all my equipment. At least I got free M2 Vulcan... :P

deadmanrising · November 14, 2015

Worst update ever. "Going high in MUs make more sense now" Nobody on Earth will spend 10-15k for NOTHING AT EACH UPGRADE!!!!

Exactly, if i spent 50-100k upgrading one parameter before the update i would have had m4, now i have to pay 300-400k to get the same modification, they are really killing this game, i have no idea why

applications · November 14, 2015

What about all the XP/BP players that fully MU ed damage and other stuff except the kickback now they will have a hard time due to the force from shooting unfair especially for wasp users *tumbsdown*

Noob in xp/bp battles MU es are dissabled -_-

Supernatural · November 14, 2015

Exactly, if i spent 50-100k upgrading one parameter before the update i would have had m4, now i have to pay 300-400k to get the same modification, they are really killing this game, i have no idea why

they want us all to go to the new tanki, they are killing the game on purpose with a smiling propagnda face in V-Log.

Supernatural · November 14, 2015

Micro-upgrades of "Eternity"

Micro-upgrades of "Flora"

Micro-upgrades of "Marine"

Micro-upgrades of "Swamp"

Micro-upgrades of "Forester"

Micro-upgrades of "Metallic"

Micro-upgrades of "Lava"

Micro-upgrades of "Lead"

Micro-upgrades of "Invader"

Micro-upgrades of "Safari"

Micro-upgrades of "Magma"

Micro-upgrades of "Dragon"

Micro-upgrades of "Mary"

Micro-upgrades of "Storm"

Micro-upgrades of "Carbon"

Micro-upgrades of "In love"

Micro-upgrades of "Alien"

Micro-upgrades of "Chainmail"

Micro-upgrades of "Dirty"

Micro-upgrades of "Swash"

Micro-upgrades of "Jaguar"

Micro-upgrades of "Guerrilla"

Micro-upgrades of "Desert"

Micro-upgrades of "Corrosion"

Micro-upgrades of "Pixel"

Micro-upgrades of "Tundra"

Micro-upgrades of "Vortex"

Micro-upgrades of "Roger"

Micro-upgrades of "Fracture"

Micro-upgrades of "Cedar"

Micro-upgrades of "Python"

Micro-upgrades of "Sakura"

Micro-upgrades of "Electra"

Micro-upgrades of "Sandstone"

Micro-upgrades of "Spark"

Micro-upgrades of "Digital"

Micro-upgrades of "Rustle"

Micro-upgrades of "Blacksmith"

Micro-upgrades of "Hohloma"

Micro-upgrades of "Loam"

Micro-upgrades of "Rhino"

Micro-upgrades of "Winter"

Micro-upgrades of "Urban"

Micro-upgrades of "Atom"

Micro-upgrades of "Cherry"

Micro-upgrades of "Savanna"

Micro-upgrades of "Irbis"

Micro-upgrades of "Emerald"

Micro-upgrades of "Mars"

Micro-upgrades of "Inferno"

Micro-upgrades of "Hive"

Micro-upgrades of "Jade"

Micro-upgrades of "Taiga"

Micro-upgrades of "Tiger"

Micro-upgrades of "Prodigi"

Micro-upgrades of "Nano"

Micro-upgrades of "Rock"

Micro-upgrades of "Raccoon"

Micro-upgrades of "Needle"

Micro-upgrades of "Picasso"

Micro-upgrades of "Zeus"

Micro-upgrades of "Graffiti"

Micro-upgrades of "Clay"

Micro-upgrades of "Lumberjack"

Micro-upgrades of "Africa"

Pages updated :)

Fully Muing a paint costs now x2-x3 crystals as it was before. Well played

JaggyBunnet · November 14, 2015

If I knew it was coming, I would have upgraded the cheapest parameters of all my equipment. At least I got free M2 Vulcan... :P

Exactly, if i spent 50-100k upgrading one parameter before the update i would have had m4, now i have to pay 300-400k to get the same modification, they are really killing this game, i have no idea why

As I said in an earlier post. This is exactly the reason we were not given a discount on micro upgrades in the last three sales. They have obviously had this planned for some time along with the other questionable updates, to maximize the cash flow into their very sizable pockets. No one was given the chance to MU equipment, as they know too well that most players wait for a sale before doing it. If too many players had MU'd in the last few months that would mean less cash for them now, knowing fine well what this latest update entailed.

Very sneaky of them and I've had enough of their unreasonable greed.

Supernatural · November 14, 2015

To all of you nubs who are jumping happily with your new m4s for free, you should see that the nre stats are nullified by other's new m4. Basically this isn't good for anyone but bad for everyone.

swede1 · November 14, 2015

This is the arrogance of the lead developers http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=248727&page=2&do=findComment&comment=513823

They don'the have the guts to face the players of this game with respect.

Challenge	Start Date	End Date
1	15.08	29.08
2	29.08	05.09
3	05.09	12.09
4	12.09	19.09
5	19.09	26.09
6	26.09	3.10
7	3.10	10.10
8	10.10	17.10

Pumpkin Grenade

Bots

Discounts

Special event modes

Special offers

Epic Containers

Special Missions

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK

REWARD

TASK