Changes to micro-upgrades

[ReiDinnys 0]

upgrades need to be adjusted.

as this is a trash (shame a game of this category have stuff like that)

 

seriously, more than half the players is not happy with the system upgrades.

or lower the price reasonably well. and increase in each micro-upgrades always increase all. and do not speak 001, but least + 0.4. 0.01 or 0.00 is not none progress for the price of 30,000 crystals

[swede1 1,726]

So funny

 

Edited November 19, 2015 by swede1

[QueenSeraphina 407]

Wrong, but has anytanki actually ever looked at the price of crystals? They really aren't very expensive....

What?!

 

Tanki Online have double standard and the rest of the world pays a lot more than the average Russian tanker.

 

Somepony hasn't been checking out the Russian payment section..... <_<

[Panelak1947 11]

What?!

 

Tanki Online have double standard and the rest of the world pays a lot more than the average Russian tanker.

It's called market Segmentation by benefits. Western countries have higher prices because people there have higher Purchasing power.

Edited November 19, 2015 by Panelak1947

[fordmustang12345 3,910]

Yes, at least it is what we have in N.America (USA & Canada). With a DCC you will get 90,000 crystals for USD 20. I did spend USD4 for 12000 crystals (with DCC), or more when combined with special crystal sale, a few times to top up my crystals when I needed to buy something in a sale. Good deals. I then played the battles to earn crystals to MU the items.  It is now, however, another story after the latest update.

 

P.S. You may try, if you want, to wait for a bit to see if there is a crystal sale on the Black Friday and the X'mas (I have no idea would there be or not, just guessing). But you have to take a risk because you may not lucky enough to receive a DCC on the sale day (usually the sale only last for 24hr). Most of the time the crystal sale is not as good as you have (only) a DCC but it would be pretty good if you have both DCC and the sale at the same tiime. The only question is: are you sure to put money on this game?

Well.its almost guaranteed to have a crystal sale at Christmas cause during sales that always do and also usually get a dcc. So thank u for reminding me about that and yeah I won't mind spending 20$ on 90.000 crystals to not get slaughtered in battles if I get a dcc and a sale I will probably get hero kit and Viking m1 Rico m1 but if I rank before Christmas I will probably get the kit with M2 isida m1 hornet and some painto i love isida and getting M2 at wo3 is a huge advantage over others

[AUGU66 95]

Well.its almost guaranteed to have a crystal sale at Christmas cause during sales that always do and also usually get a dcc. So thank u for reminding me about that and yeah I won't mind spending 20$ on 90.000 crystals to not get slaughtered in battles if I get a dcc and a sale I will probably get hero kit and Viking m1 Rico m1 but if I rank before Christmas I will probably get the kit with M2 isida m1 hornet and some painto i love isida and getting M2 at wo3 is a huge advantage over others

It is nice that you have a plan. I agree that to pay $20 for some good games is also nice.

 

About the kit with Isida you mentioned: I think you are referring the Osaka kit, right? It contains Isida M2 & Hunter M1. It is a nice kit and Isida M2 is really a good one. It kills and heals  ;) . There is another Isida kit that you may want to consider. It is the Stinger kit with Isida and Hornet both in M2 and Fracture paint, available at WO4. But this one is way more expansive 100k+. 

 

Just in case you haven't checked it out yet. Here is the list of all the product kits with the available rank:

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=181748

[Colonel_Bogey 1]

This is another in a long series of changes aimed to use up crystals faster and thereby motivate players to pay real money to buy more.  Previous suspicious changes include making boxes expire nearly twice as fast as before (which makes us less willing to buy more); "upgrading" hulls, and especially turret knockback power, so that tanks flip more easily (more self-destructs = more wasted boxes); "upgrading" the lethality of different turrets at different times (and introducing new ones) in the hope that some players will pay for additional, and expensive new paints; and increasing the power of the cheaper, short-range turrets favored by lower-ranking players (including at least twice strengthening Firebird, or as I call it, "The No-Skill Thrill") to raise destruction rates and thus the number of boxes wasted.  (And don't forget too that crystals are much more expensive than 18 months ago.)  I understand T-O is in part used as a test bed for a PC or console version, but nearly every change would also theoretically encourage spending of real money on T-O. 

 

Judging from the decline in play over the last 18 months the changes are having the opposite effect.  Is T-O paying attention?

[AUGU66 95]

This is another in a long series of changes aimed to use up crystals faster and thereby motivate players to pay real money to buy more.  Previous suspicious changes include making boxes expire nearly twice as fast as before (which makes us less willing to buy more); "upgrading" hulls, and especially turret knockback power, so that tanks flip more easily (more self-destructs = more wasted boxes); "upgrading" the lethality of different turrets at different times (and introducing new ones) in the hope that some players will pay for additional, and expensive new paints; and increasing the power of the cheaper, short-range turrets favored by lower-ranking players (including at least twice strengthening Firebird, or as I call it, "The No-Skill Thrill") to raise destruction rates and thus the number of boxes wasted.  (And don't forget too that crystals are much more expensive than 18 months ago.)  I understand T-O is in part used as a test bed for a PC or console version, but nearly every change would also theoretically encourage spending of real money on T-O. 

 

Judging from the decline in play over the last 18 months the changes are having the opposite effect.  Is T-O paying attention?

Yes, this is their tactic: to make us spend faster and more crystals...then...what? BUY...mom, where is your credit card.

 

About the increasing power of short-range turrets to favor lower-ranking players, beside OP Firebird in the earlier time this year, the OP of Twins is another ridiculous. If you have skills that is nice but you actually don't really need with Twins. Just put a piece of brick on your spacebar and drive your tank and that is. Don't tell me with skills you can do this or that with Twins. The thing is you don't need skills to use Twins and still and easily kill, get high score and more crystals. I something just leave the battle if I see there are more than two Twins in either my or opponent side running around. I start considering using twins is a kind of cheating (yes, I know I am a bit too much) because it is set to be OP. My friend never used Twins, except he tried for a while at the beginning with a M0, because he said it is for kids but he finally threw in money to buy a M1 not long after they OP the Twins. He then said he is enough for those non-stop shooting OP things slaughtering him. At the end, he bought one with real money for fighting back.

 

This game was once a good one but now I can say it is ruined, mainly because of highly unbalancing, pay-to-win, crazy druggers (this is a pay-to-win), too early unlock equipment from buying kits (i don't against product kits, but the equipment shouldn't be unlocked too early. Max 2 ranks lower),and cheaters (I don't think they are really doing something. I realised there are more cheating activity most recently).

 

Anyway, I know my day in Tanki is counting. I wish I can stay at least until X'mas and see if there is some good sale that helps and worth to move on to next year. Happy (hopefully) gaming everyone.

Edited November 19, 2015 by AUGU66

[swede1 1,726]

I'm sorry but your system of control ( coercive monetization model ) is so obvious, everyone will be leaving and to do this on the eave of the launch of your new and improved Tanki X coercive monetization model will follow suit, get out of the dark ages and stop all the trickery and take the high road, a leader in the F2P world 

 VoC > TtC  this new model is insane, you are going from $0 to $1000 and that can only lead to failure.

Tanki X or Tanki eXpensive 

I hope Santa puts coal in your stockings!

Edited November 19, 2015 by swede1

[fordmustang12345 3,910]

It is nice that you have a plan. I agree that to pay $20 for some good games is also nice.

 

About the kit with Isida you mentioned: I think you are referring the Osaka kit, right? It contains Isida M2 & Hunter M1. It is a nice kit and Isida M2 is really a good one. It kills and heals  ;) . There is another Isida kit that you may want to consider. It is the Stinger kit with Isida and Hornet both in M2 and Fracture paint, available at WO4. But this one is way more expansive 100k+. 

 

Just in case you haven't checked it out yet. Here is the list of all the product kits with the available rank:

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=181748

I know about the Osaka kit but that's not the one I mentioned there is a kit in my garage that unlocks at wo3 and has M2 isida and m1 hornet plus a paint it is for some reason not in the kits section in the tanki wiki and yes I.have looked in the kits section in tanki wiki

But yeah I will probably wait till Christmas to buy crystals cause of an almost guaranteed crystal sale and dcc

[Benefactor 6,888]

I know about the Osaka kit but that's not the one I mentioned there is a kit in my garage that unlocks at wo3 and has M2 isida and m1 hornet plus a paint it is for some reason not in the kits section in the tanki wiki and yes I.have looked in the kits section in tanki wiki

But yeah I will probably wait till Christmas to buy crystals cause of an almost guaranteed crystal sale and dcc

You mean the 'Stinger' Kit? Because I do not see anything else that unlocks at WO3.

 

Edited November 19, 2015 by Benefactor

[fordmustang12345 3,910]

You mean the 'Stinger' Kit? Because I do not see anything else that unlocks at WO3.

 

No probably the Osaka kit idk I'd have to look in garage but probably Osaka kit but stinger kit would be epic to have. I saw someone with it once when I was wo1 thank God he was on my team

[Bass08x 4]

Before the uptade, everybody increased parameters like protection or damage, and now others less useful parameters are increased as well, for 0 crystals.

Now upgading the first steps of an item cost way more than before, even though step cost is more uniform over the 50 steps.

Example: I wanted to buy M3 Hammer and to upgrade it to 100dmg/shot=> 30k crystals. Now it's about 10 times as expensive !

Problem: MU an equipment you've just bought will cost way more than before. As a result, recently-bought equipments will be weaker than the older ones, because upgrading the new ones will be far more expensive.

Conclusion: this update is BS.

Edited November 19, 2015 by Bass08x

[Panelak1947 11]

Anyway, I know my day in Tanki is counting. I wish I can stay at least until X'mas and see if there is some good sale that helps and worth to move on to next year. Happy (hopefully) gaming everyone.

Hi again. Is it your main account? 

[Helindu_2014 830]

This is another in a long series of changes aimed to use up crystals faster and thereby motivate players to pay real money to buy more.  Previous suspicious changes include making boxes expire nearly twice as fast as before (which makes us less willing to buy more); "upgrading" hulls, and especially turret knockback power, so that tanks flip more easily (more self-destructs = more wasted boxes); "upgrading" the lethality of different turrets at different times (and introducing new ones) in the hope that some players will pay for additional, and expensive new paints; and increasing the power of the cheaper, short-range turrets favored by lower-ranking players (including at least twice strengthening Firebird, or as I call it, "The No-Skill Thrill") to raise destruction rates and thus the number of boxes wasted.  (And don't forget too that crystals are much more expensive than 18 months ago.)  I understand T-O is in part used as a test bed for a PC or console version, but nearly every change would also theoretically encourage spending of real money on T-O. 

 

Judging from the decline in play over the last 18 months the changes are having the opposite effect.  Is T-O paying attention?

However, how much may this game may be ruined, I would NEVER EVER buy crystals in T.O. to be in position.

But why? Below is the answer.

 

 

 

 

You have $100. If you are searching for a source for investment, would you invest the cash to buy shares in a company which depicts decline?

It is the same case with T.O. now.

PLUS they DO NOT KNOW to satisfy their customers,

and they keep up coming with LAME excuses (i.,e- diversity, balance of economy, as an experiment etc etc etc.), as if we, the CUSTOMERS are supposed to comprehend the situation of the administration and establishment of their organization.

 

Plus, actually, IMHO, paying real money for a virtual currency, :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 

                        Regards,

                                  Lieutenant General Helindu_2014

 

 

[LikeAmagic 7]

no more fun here  

[deadmanrising 715]

Because transfer of account info and/or game elements is illegal and will result in a ban.

That's not what he meant  <_<

 

Wrong, but has anytanki actually ever looked at the price of crystals? They really aren't very expensive....

Economically is it expensive, very expensive, to the paying customer it isn't that expensive, but over time they must continue to invest to compete and they end up spending more. But like i said in my last post someone who hasn't studied economics + mathematics will have no idea what has just happened. This has created a huge gap between multiple groups of players, it takes a really hard effort if you are playing for free or paying under the ratio you have to pay for it to be worth it, investing in a pro battle pass doesn't solve the problem, drugs or no drugs

[Benefactor 6,888]

No probably the Osaka kit idk I'd have to look in garage but probably Osaka kit but stinger kit would be epic to have. I saw someone with it once when I was wo1 thank God he was on my team

He probably had the Osaka Kit and just replaced the Vulcan turret with the Isida turret.

[VirtualWildHogs 66]

 

Edited November 19, 2015 by VirtualWildHogs

[fordmustang12345 3,910]

He probably had the Osaka Kit and just replaced the Vulcan turret with the Isida turret.

No he had the stinger kit I said I was wo1 he was. Wo4

[iztheman 41]

What about after upgrading a parameter you get a discount?

Edited November 19, 2015 by iztheman

[shafter1136 1]

Is it cheaper to fully upgrade an item then get the next MU free, or just buy the MU item? Please answer, as this will affect some major buying choices I am about to make.

[Captain_Canuck 49]

Maybe, the time has come for you to admit that you have been officially hired to defend this update in exchange of hike in your salary from 150k-300k crystals per month to 500k-800k crystals per month AND/OR You had micro-upgraded 1 parameter of all the hulls/turrets, and with update you got all the m4's with just miniature crystal investment on your main account.

 

Feel free to ban me as I just exposed the real salary of a Tanki helper.

 

Thanks.

-WildHogs

 

Ummm, you didn't expose him.

If you had exposed him then you would have given definite numbers instead of ranges.

No, what you instead did was put out a theory and did not provide any fact to substantiate it.

(that does not mean you're wrong, nor do I have any idea if you are or not, but I do know that's the wrong way to argue)

[Cor7y 13,862]

50th page .-.

[AUGU66 95]

V-Log ep69:

 

"Hey, tankers. I know you all happy with the new micro-update system. Don't forget to ask your mommy to buy tonnes of crystals before you go to bed tonight.....bla bla bla bla bla......."

Edited November 20, 2015 by AUGU66