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Hmmm... 

 

Well, about the Micro Upgrades. To be honest. I did not like the last system either. You couldn`t MU single parameter past the current Modification. You had to complete the current Modification to Micro Upgrade further the preferred parameter. 

 

This is how it could be:  >:-) 

 

Isida Healing setup:

 

 

 

(Isida)         M0_______________M1_______________M2_______________M3_______________M4 / M3+

 

Healing . . . . . .  :  ################   ################    ###############     ###############

 

Damage . . . . .  :

 

Self-Healing . .  :

 

Reload time . .  :  ################   ################    ################

 

Rotation speed :

 

Range . . . . . .  : 

 

 

 

 

Or if I get bored only repairing I can reset my parameters (for some crystals?) and change setup.

 

 

Isida Wampire setup: Same amount of (pionts 110) I can buy more upgrades later of corse :)

 

 

(Isida)           M0_______________M1_______________M2_______________M3_______________M4 / M3+

 

Healing . . . . . .  :  

 

Damage . . . . .  :   ################    ####     

 

Self-Healing . .  :   ################    ###############     ###############     ####

 

Reload time . .  :   #############          

 

Rotation speed :   ######            

 

Range . . . . . .  :   ################    #####      

 

 

 

Hope you understand this idea. :)  This I how I wish the parameters could be upgraded. + you could still Mu like before if you want. This should be a choice. Maybe a choice for higher ranks only.

 

Unbalance? Then play Pro battle. Or better solution?

Alternative Platform not earning money from MU`s? Then make it more expensive or earn money other places in the game.  

 

Wonder how you would MU if this was an option.  :huh:  Or you have a better idea. :)

 

If I am not too lazy maybe i post this in Ideas and suggestions. For the moment i can`t make own topics. 

 

Regards SlowPow

 

SlowPow      (ArmorGames)

SlowPow_2  (Miniclip)

 

 

 

 

If they were slick, they would make it a choice for Premium members.

Could you explain in more details. If they were slick? Do you mean like if the upgrades was hard to get, took long time to unlock or overpowered in some way?  :huh:

 

I might have bought premium if i could upgrade like this. :)

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Could you explain in more details. If they were slick? Do you mean like if the upgrades was hard to get, took long time to unlock or overpowered in some way?  :huh:

 

I might have bought premium if i could upgrade like this. :)

From a financial sense, segregated MU's are in demand. If those who demand for it, then make it available in Premium. In a way, it would be made a "feature" instead of a rollback for those who would obtain a Premium account.. 

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Could you explain in more details. If they were slick? Do you mean like if the upgrades was hard to get, took long time to unlock or overpowered in some way?  :huh:

 

I might have bought premium if i could upgrade like this. :)

 

 

 

 

From a financial sense, segregated MU's are in demand. If those who demand for it, then make it available in Premium. In a way, it would be made a "feature" instead of a rollback for those who would obtain a Premium account.. 

Warning, SlowPow don`t know how to respond. Because he is not good in english. He is not form England.  <--edith 23.11.15

 

 

 

Sorry, still not quite understand. Google translate help! You mean that this or any type of MU`s system. People want to have MU`s for premium but like a choice. And the free players will not get MU`s OR have normal MU`s? 

 

The premiums and free players are seperated in a way, because they have different MU`s?

Or only Premium have MU`s?

 

(Edit) 22.11.15

 

Are you talking of the idea if it was made possible. Or the current MU system? If the idea, then do you mean, that it could be only available for Premium players, but they can chose if they want MU`s like the idea above or not. You mean Premium players chose easy like Pro battle on/off if they want this MU`s system, or not. or regular MU system that we have now?  

 

 

 

Regards SlowPow

Edited by SlowPow_3

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Very confused by this new "upgrade".. I preferred to choose my micro upgrades, not upgrade every parameter at once. Also I have a M0 gun but am only getting an offer to upgrade it to an M2 at some outrageous price. Why can't I carry on to an M1?  Is it because you guys need the money?

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Could you explain in more details. If they were slick? Do you mean like if the upgrades was hard to get, took long time to unlock or overpowered in some way?  :huh:

 

I might have bought premium if i could upgrade like this. :)

Your first question is definitely a fair one.

P-Shooter is contextually using the word "slick" as a slang, so figuratively instead of literally.

The way he's using it a synonym for that word would be "clever".

I'm guessing you know what "clever" means.  :ph34r:

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I think that when you have 25/50 you should get a 50%, or 25% off the next turret or hull.

Because they did away with that, I decided to only micro-upgrade to about 10/50 and then save the rest till I eventually reach a level where I can simply buy the next full upgrade since all the micro-upgrades I lose in crystals if I don't do all the micro-upgrades with this new MU update. Otherwise I'm wasting far more money/crystals than I should, unlike pre-update where we would get the relevant % discount based on how far we mu'd already.

Sorry for my ^ run-on sentence. lol

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Its a clever strategy, get everyone to spend money now on the old version before they leave to the new version

 

But that's the problem, because if people can't get their accounts transferred to the new version or at least to a satisfactory level, they will remain on the old version, and thats where the spiral starts

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(Previous comments)

 

 

If they were slick, they would make it a choice for Premium members.

 

 

Could you explain in more details. If they were slick? Do you mean like if the upgrades was hard to get, took long time to unlock or overpowered in some way?  :huh:

 

I might have bought premium if i could upgrade like this. :)

 

 

From a financial sense, segregated MU's are in demand. If those who demand for it, then make it available in Premium. In a way, it would be made a "feature" instead of a rollback for those who would obtain a Premium account.. 

 

 

 

 

Your first question is definitely a fair one.
P-Shooter is contextually using the word "slick" as a slang, so figuratively instead of literally.

The way he's using it a synonym for that word would be "clever".

I'm guessing you know what "clever" means.  :ph34r:

Mmmm...

 

:ph34r: After some google translate and word book and help from my mother because she is good in english.

I still not sure. SlowPow means, i am slow with jokes and advanced english.

 

Thank you "Captain_Canuck" you saves the day. ^_^  But not quite... :ph34r:

 

P-Shooter, what could be clever or a nice addition to the idea i came up with?

As i understand, you say it could be a choice for premium buyers if they nag/demand, to make it happen. 

You mean if AlternativePlatform was evil-smart="slick" then they would make the idea for premium, so every one would buy premium OR be jealous of them?  :o

 

 

If i still don`t understand, lets move on :) There is much interesting to be said in this topic of 50 pages.

 

 

Also please (everyone) steal the idea and improve! Make it your own!  :)

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For the first time I ran out of 'up votes' to 'down vote' this update.

 

Tanki must have got the message by now this was a bad decision - I imagine the Russians are saying the same?

If we had a vote on it then I reckon 99% are against it (only the 'forelock' tuggers or the ignorant could approve.)

 

This has created a bigger imbalance on the battle field and a loss of fun factor.

I notice much more instant killing going on, which diminishes the skill from the game and one side more easily dominates the other (= no fun on the winning side or losing side).

There was nothing very wrong with the old MU system.

 

More Tankers will simply discover it's cheaper to buy 'Supplies kits' than MU upgrades.

Which is exactly what Tanki want you to do.

Tanki don't care that more drugs on the battle field means one side more easily dominates the other.

Tanki 'forgot' to provide a 'control' to make sure both sides get to use equal amounts because this would annoy the buyers.

Tanki don't seem to understand where most of the fun comes from in Tanki (good battles).

 

If Tanki listened to it's users and spent more time trying to help make it more fun, then we would happily pay more.

As it is, they look to be biting the hand that feeds it = very sad (this time both buyers and non buyers are upset.)

 

 

 

and we have shown Tanki plenty of ways to get revenue without using sales of Supplies Kits as a primary source. Just ask for help and we will show you how.

Edited by racer22_online
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Hackers already use hacked drugs, so not allowing buyers to purchase drugs gives hackers an even more unfair advantage.
Get rid of all forms of hacking first before removing drugs.
(otherwise it's like the Nazis removing guns from the law-abiding citizens so that criminals ended up using illegal guns against them)

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Not asking for removal of drugs - just reduction of the need to buy 'Supplies Kits'.  And I agree that hacking drugs completely disrupts the game.

 

My answer is to count the amount of supplies used per tank and show this on the scoreboard - we know Tanki has this count.

This makes it easier to expose the cheats.

 

It also means Tanki could easily limit the amount of garage drugs used per side.  To equal amounts per side.  This will prevent the hackers gaining such a huge advantage.  A total of 15 garage drugs per tank per 15 minutes will do the trick.

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The amount of supplies used per tank does NOT expose the cheats.

The cheats hack for free drugs so their drug usage will NOT show up in that stat.

What will instead show up is the non-cheats who use drugs.

Edited by Captain_Canuck

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Not asking for removal of drugs - just reduction of the need to buy 'Supplies Kits'.  And I agree that hacking drugs completely disrupts the game.

 

My answer is to count the amount of supplies used per tank and show this on the scoreboard - we know Tanki has this count.

This makes it easier to expose the cheats.

 

It also means Tanki could easily limit the amount of garage drugs used per side.  To equal amounts per side.  This will prevent the hackers gaining such a huge advantage.  A total of 15 garage drugs per tank per 15 minutes will do the trick.

You and I know that it is not going to happen; otherwise, who is going to buy drugs ?

 

Those cheaters might have a mission to make the regular players to feel that their tank is not good enough or they are not using enough drugs in battless then pour in money to buy crystals for MU and drugs.

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...I finally noticed multiple tankers using a hack to get instant drugs (they did not pick any up).

They would use all 3 or 4 simultatneously. That is impossible unless using a hack.

 

They were NOT PRO battles...

I encountered this before, I didn't think about it was hacking at that time. I thought I saw it wrongly: hey, that tank "switched on" 3 drugs at the same time?! I must be wrong, he might pick up some on the ground. I just saw it wrongly.

 

Now, your post proved that I didn't see it wrongly, but just I was a bit stupid; I didn't think about hacking.

 

Do you think Tanki will take care of this? I don't think so. I can see the cheating/hacking activities are becoming worse these days.

Edited by AUGU66

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I certainly like seeing some things I upgraded partially suddenly upgraded to 100% in all parameters, but overall I think that this update will make it harder to gain an edge with Micro Upgrades. 

 

Before you could upgrade the parameters that benefitted your playing style the most [e.g. turret rotation speed for someone who likes to sit on the goals in CP or range for someone who likes large maps, etc].  It's far less costly to get a meaningful upgrade that way... 

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Reducing the complexity of micro-upgrades would ordinarily be welcome, but you've made a serious miscalculation

that is going to cost you thousands of dollars worth of crystals (not being spent) every week.

 

Here's where the "group upgrades" fall apart: the hulls

Although I didn't mind getting the MU's for superfluous things (turning speed?!) for "free",

I am surely not going to pay thousands for THEM when all I want is more protection or speed.

 

Example: Dictator at upgrade level 27

I would pay for more protection, even though I'm at 330 and the max is about 340.

But 30,000 crystals per level (or more) when that's all I need is ridiculous.

And the speed, even with 23 levels to go, is already maxed out at 7.90 ?! Those "+0" items suck the mop.

 

Maybe there are folks stupid enough to spend the crystals just for one aspect, but there can't be very many...

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Those cheaters might have a mission to make the regular players to feel that their tank is not good enough or they are not using enough drugs in battles then pour in money to buy crystals for MU and drugs.

Hey, AUG, Canuck, and Racer:

This is the "micro-upgrades" thread, not the "complaining about drugs and hacking" thread.

If you think you have to MU to fight druggers, and it costs too much now, you have a point.

But you really need to say that in the right place, not all over the place. This is not the "one thread for every complaint."

Edited by dfoofnik
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I think they were hoping everyone would reduce supply use to save for micro upgrades. What a joke, 900 micro transactions and a week or more to acquire one will take 17 yrs to get then all.

The old game a tanker could get everything in 2 yrs and choices actually mentioned something.

Now there is no goals for M3 players to look forward to, it's just who has the most supplies wins, and if they can't compete they take what they learned and play on nub accounts and ruin the experience for new players trying out the game.

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