Changes to micro-upgrades

[falcosenna1 8,320]

Awesome!! It's one of the best updates so far!!

Edited November 12, 2015 by falcosenna1

[LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH 1,921]

I thought about it, and instead of 50 steps, you should have to do only 35 to 40ish, becasue there's no point spending a bunch of crystals (more than the cost of the item you want) beucase it is useless.

 

Yeah, say whatever, My idea is the same

[ERADICATIONNATION 185]

Meh, I don't like how I can no longer upgrade individual parameters. Before, I could freely upgrade what stats I wanted, but now I'm gonna have to upgrade everything at once, regardless of weather or not I want to. I want to increase the damage output of my turrets and increase my hull's HP, but don't want to waste my crystals on parameters that aren't important to me (like hull weight). As a non-buyer, I don't exactly have a steady influx of crystals in my account that I  can use to pay for everything.

Edited November 12, 2015 by ERADICATIONNATION

[VirtualWildHogs 66]

Before stating this update as a good update, I think players/forumers should look at all the aspects of update.

Short term effects: This update is great! As many players have m4's even when they only upgraded 1 parameter (eg: Spending 50,000 crystals to get benefit of ~1,000,000 crystals). Since players are getting advantage, only a handful of them will complain ('Greed factor' at behavioral level).

Long term effects: Here comes the twist: earlier with just a few thousands of crystals (eg: 47,411 for m4 impact force of Vulcan), you could have maxed 1 parameter (eg: Impact Force). But now You need more like 1 million crystals (eg: 948,000 in case of Vulcan) for maxing 1 parameter for those who have not even started micro upgrading things (like me). And as the Tanki history says, we all know that these updates rarely get rollback...

Summary: It is the behavioral nature of human beings which Tanki has chosen to exploit, greed factor. Having said that, Good Luck on your future micro-upgrades, unless you have everything micro-upgraded to m4 and/or you have 1 billion crystals ofcourse!

Trigger the greed factor, make the update successful, #JustTankiThings.

Anyways, Feel free to dislike/troll/ban whatever you feel necessary to do with my post, if you are so much obsessed with greed factor.

Thanks.
-WildHogs
 
 

 

EDIT 1:
Addition suggested by @DiSoRderLY,

 

Those who pay-to-play and did spend millions to gain an advantage are left with a kick in the nuts!

Edited November 12, 2015 by VirtualWildHogs

[Rohrmeister 1,535]

I just palyed 2 hours battles with active MUs and got used to my new M3.75 Wasp.

 

Then I switched to XP/BP (same tank, no MUs) and it feels slow, turns different, aiming timing is different.. I quit after 15 minutes as it made no fun

 

thanks for ruining something -.-

 

I have now 5 items on M3,75... so I have "proffited" from this update.

But you know what? Forget it! Take it back, I dont want it!

Give me back _my_ wasp, that drives in the _same_way_ whetever the battle has MUs or not !!!!!!

Edited November 12, 2015 by Rohrmeister

[Benefactor 6,888]

I just palyed 2 hours battles with active MUs and got used to my new M3.75 Wasp.

 

Then I switched to XP/BP (same tank, no MUs) and it feels slow, turns different, aiming timing is different.. I quit after 15 minutes as it made no fun

 

thanks for ruining something -.-

 

I have now 5 items on M3,75... so I have "proffited" from this update.

But you know what? Forget it! Take it back, I dont want it!

Give me back _my_ wasp, that drives in the _same_way_ whetever the battle has MUs or not !!!!!!

Did the physics change? I heard weight was not supposed to affect speed. Or does it?

[MRM_ALEX 3]

Dont like the update.   :(    :(    :(

[falcosenna1 8,320]

Did the physics change? I heard weight was not supposed to affect speed. Or does it?

It doesn't. :p

[Rohrmeister 1,535]

Did the physics change? I heard weight was not supposed to affect speed. Or does it?

weight and power do not affect speed -> they affect acceleration.

But the "free gift" of speed microupgrades, turning speed microupgrades and rail turning speed ruins all the timing you inherit by playing - especially fast hulls (wasp) and precision turrets (rail).

 

I have not upgraded those _on_purpose_... man am I pissed now :/

Edited November 12, 2015 by Rohrmeister

[DrazaMihajlovic 11]

Dislike update. So basically if one of the parameters were full the equipment became m4 ? Amazing update tanki. What about people who spent bucks on making m4 ? They have single handedly robbed the buyers!

Daddy-Is-Now-Here

 

I fully support this player, so that from me you have a BIG DISLIKE !!!

 

Why did you do so, do not be better than that? If you want to change your micro upgrade, you could do it in a better way. This game is not funny anymore! I must have 50 000 000 crystals to buy and upgrade my turrets, hulls and colors. For that i must play this game 15 years to collect cry, or buy..... 2000 euro for game, xaxaxa that's very funny, i don't spend money for this anymore. The game has become horrible since introduced changes!! More you do not care about the game only you care about the money, I have no more comments........!!

[Jboymark53 508]

I knew i should have fully mu'ed my rail's something....

[Meowmix56 174]

While it is generous to give me so many free m4s I have mixed feelings on this update.  I am not sure I like forfeiting control of my tank for ease of use.  Customizing each spec led to some individuality and some people may prefer to keep some specs, such as turret rotation or weight, at a lower level.

 

Aside from that I wonder if this is a good business decision.  On one hand you are now forcing people to upgrade weight and power if they want to max out their health.  On the other hand the sticker price is much higher.  Players will be much more willing to spend 1-30k on impulse to upgrade an important parameter thank to pay a combined price that is much higher.  This keeps them broke and makes it harder, on average, for players to save up, because they continually buy incremental microupgrades they otherwise wouldn't.  So if they want a new piece of equipment they'd be more likely to spend. 

[Flexoo 6,980]

I paid those 10 crystals for first parameter (from 50) on my M3s, time to unleash the beasts muhahaha :D

Edited November 12, 2015 by Flexoo

[ghost-guns 1,486]

Protection (166.3 → 210.0) = 136 680 crystals

 

Maximum speed (11.03 → 12.00) = 205 019 crystals

 

Turning speed (110.6 → 130.0) = 102 511 crystals

 

Weight (2012 → 2400) = 102 511 crystals

 

Power (1222 → 1400) = 136 680 crystals

 

Total = 683 401 crystals !!!

 

So let me get the straight... I will need to spend over half a million crystals to upgrade protection all the way? Think I might as well quit the game.

Can someone confirm this

[ghost-guns 1,486]

This is a very unfair and false upgrade. My friend had micro upgraded the shield of his viking till maximum, 25 upgrades, only that, nothing else. I thought it is so much better to micro upgrade all parameters so i did upgrade all parameters step by step togheter. I had upgraded 42 times, but the highest upgrade was 10 times.

 

Now my friend have a fully upgraded m4 viking for only micro upgrading 25 times. While i have only 30 steps of 50 now. And i upgraded 42 times.

 

VERY UNFAIR !!!!!

Agree, this is absolute bull chit.

[DrazaMihajlovic 11]

THEY WONTI have already said and I will again, only interested in money, nothing more ........... WHAT ABOUT THE GAME ???

 

I NEED ANSWER??

[Rohrmeister 1,535]

Can someone confirm this

look it up yourself:

 

http://en.tankiwiki.com/Micro-upgrades_Hornet

http://en.tankiwiki.com/Micro-upgrades_Viking

more to find there..

[V.I.R.4.J 625]

This update is going to ruin the game. The staff of tanki seriously needs some statistics from the game to understand how this is seriously going to ruin the gameplay like hell. Tanki staff is just going nuts. They are ruining the game update after update. You may ban me from forum but please understand my point first. I will give some interesting stats. These stats WILL definitely be ignored by all those selfish tankers whose equipment has got maxed due to maxly upgrading just one of the parameters earlier. THIS IS VERY UNFAIR VERY VERY UNFAIR tanki!. And you selfish tankers are worthless to improve the gameplay by giving suggestions to tanki.

 

THE example:

This is from the earlier stats of a particular gun. I choose to explain for smoky m0 as it has the most parameters (7).

 

Damage (11 parameters)

Impact force (24 parameters)

Reload time (5 parameters)

Rotation speed (25 parameters)

Range (16 parameters)

Critical chance (25 parameters)

Critical damage (25 parameters)

------------------------------------------------

Total parameters = 11 + 24 + 5 + 25 + 16 + 25 + 25 = 121 parameters to be upgraded.

 

NOW, i will explain the rubbish that tanki has just done. Suppose some tanker has upgraded critical damage completely : that is just FREAKING 25 parameters ONLY out of a whole 121!

This means he has upgraded his turret by just (25/121)*100 % = 20.66%

And stupid tanki is giving him the whole free turret! That is just like the tanker is being spoonfed the rest of the parameters. DOES FREAKING ANYONE give a 100% upgraded stuff to a guy who has just upgraded his stuff by 20.66%?

 

Ideally on the other hand, this guy has upgraded his stuff by 20.66% so that means that the tanker should get the new parameters such that it represents 20.66% of 50.

50 * 20.66% = 10.33 parameters.

THE TANKER SHOULD HENCE JUST GET A GUN OF 11 PARAMETERS UPGRADED! DO YOU FREAKING UNDERSTAND ME TANKI!!!!!? 

 

OR JUST GET BACK THE FREAKING OLD MU SYSTEM!

 

This update is just so rubbish except for the fact about speed-ups which is more sensible than before IMO.

 

I HOPE MY CRITICAL REVIEW OF THIS UPDATE WILL GET SOME SENSE TO TANKI DEVS!

 

 

 

ALSO, another important thing that Tanki is not understanding! Currently I have about 245000 crystals. I am saving up for the Christmas sale but suppose on some particular instance I want to upgrade something like suppose the reload of my M3 Railgun. That would have cost me 2448 crystals if it were as earlier BUT now, I have to freaking spend about 7000 crystals for a complete upgrade of all the parameters that I do not even want to upgrade.

WHAT SENSE DOES THIS MAKE.

 

THIS IS FOR ALL WHO UNDERSTAND MY MATH and TANKI should implement this or keeps GETTING DISLIKES even though we cant give them anymore!

[dfoofnik 341]

I was wondering why some tanks appeared stronger. In effect, they got free upgrades if they raised just one.

Of course, I benefited from this where I had one parameter way up (like damage) and will get the speed and impact "free."

[keithchua 0]

this is super OP!!!!!!

[ghost-guns 1,486]

So some clown that only ever fully upgraded the turning speed of their cannon-fodder hull has now gained a fully upgraded hull.... unlikely that someone would be that dumb, but an example of how this update is about luck. Those that lucked out and upgraded the hell out of 1 parameter will be delighted(unless they like fairness in their games)..., and those that didn't get lucky or paid hard cash for a upgraded tank that others have now got for free, won't be happy..

 

Also find it weird that some of the mid/lower ranks on this thread love this update...the guys ahead of u in the ranks have just had our higher-level equipment boosted in every parameter...and you will surely have to pay far more crystals than us to catch up...

 

I've now got a half upgraded M3 kit, but I know that some of the guys I'll be fighting against have probably benefited equally ..or even more,....I say again, it's luck...

 

Lower ranks will get blown off the map.

 

I wanted to MU hornet M3 protection because I get one shotted by drugged thunders and rails. Now I have no chance unless I use double armor all the time.

[I.WalkAlone 548]

Protection (166.3 → 210.0) = 136 680 crystals

 

Maximum speed (11.03 → 12.00) = 205 019 crystals

 

Turning speed (110.6 → 130.0) = 102 511 crystals

 

Weight (2012 → 2400) = 102 511 crystals

 

Power (1222 → 1400) = 136 680 crystals

 

Total = 683 401 crystals !!!

 

So let me get the straight... I will need to spend over half a million crystals to upgrade protection all the way? Think I might as well quit the game.

No, no, it's not just the protection. It's for all the stats combined. The cost of the steps has remained the same. What has changed is that instead of mu'ing one stat at a time, you're mu'ing all the stats at the same time.

[viratno2 146]

Yup. One problem is that undeserving tankers like nubs who have upgraded their turning speed fully now deserve an m3 from an M2. So we will get wreckt by our own non buyers.

[dfoofnik 341]

 

This update is going to ruin the game. <snip> Tanki staff is just going nuts.

...stupid tanki is giving him the whole free turret! That is just like the tanker is being spoonfed the rest of the parameters.

 

DO YOU FREAKING UNDERSTAND ME TANKI!!!!!? 

 

OR JUST GET BACK THE FREAKING OLD MU SYSTEM!

 

Don't mince words. If you don't like it, just say so. :rolleyes:

You must not have gotten anything out of it. I probably got less than a lot of folks. But the upgrades left for me are not much more than I was willing to pay for just a couple of things.

Edited November 12, 2015 by dfoofnik

[TimTurbo-2 1]

m3 railgun at the rank colonel..... OOOOOOH YEA  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D