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Now I feel noob cuz all these instant M4s coming to wreck battles...

 

My main has many m3, and no m4 :( :(

 

If no crystal sale & MU sale at xmas, this might be my last chance at TO!

 

How to compete if enemy keep switching M4 things like no Tomorrow!

 

#Getrekt

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nice / bad  update but i got a question if no good update if yes i hate this update

 

 

are the prices of the micro-upgrades increased

 

total price of MU is the same,

 

but first few steps price are increased, last few steps are decreased.

 

but wait,

 

most people just mu first 3-6 steps, as they are cheap and good effective, last few steps are for hard core players.

 

 

check this video, when mu is introduced.

 

 

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=186310

 

 

 

the review said when they introduce MU system, "you can save crystal on MU", sorry it is no longer true, after this, 

 

 

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Comments i agree with, couldn`t quote all on this topic. But replied the chosen quotes in the spoiler.

At least read my idea in orange (outside the spoiler) at the bottom. TO MUTCH TEXT!

 

Little warning: 16 quotes

 

 

 

 

 

You broke premium paint, everyone is calling me a hacker ;-;

SlowPow: They say it is invincible two :o

 

Dislike update. So basically if one of the parameters were full the equipment became m4 ? Amazing update tanki. What about people who spent bucks on making m4 ? They have single handedly robbed the buyers! 

SlowPow: Good Point!

 

I wish i didn't fully mu the thing before, since mu fully 1 parameter will give you all max.

 

lol

SlowPow: Yep, I got free Isida M1 XD

 

Still not sure...guess we will have to ride it out and monitor on it how it will impact the game.

SlowPow: Good idea! Lets see how it goes.

 

it is like to force people to pay MU things they dont want in paint,

 

like railgun protection in Emerald paint,

 

like before, people can only mu Freeze max damage, now they are forced to pay for other parameters when they want to mu.

 

 

of course, good for people have all garage items and and mu-ed fully on 1 parameters already.

SlowPow: Not good to be forced to buy something. 

 

I like the Black Hole paint!

SlowPow: Enjoy it wile you can XD. Hope no one got reported for this glitch.

 

these update r well n good

but i want tanki online to make gold unpredictable as it before

smaller hulls have less chance to get gold

and if not want unpredictablity then tanki onine must make it tricky for player

like showing various sign in map

and the gold box will fall in only one place

SlowPow: Little off topic, but good point. The speed of smaller hulls should be an advantage for catching gold. Solution as you said: You would not know to easy where gold will land.

 

Bad update ///

i dont want to upgrade all parametre :angry:

SlowPow: Yep, it should be a choice. 

 

R.I.P Flying Wasps

SlowPow: Sad, also as one said it will mess a little with parkour.

 

That is ok.

But When you will update the change in next manare:

1. It will be good that we can functionaly step down the changes

of M0-M4 interchanges or micro upgrade.

It will be good to play again with a players, friends that are novice in the tanks.

Example: I am M3+ of viking and I can not play with my firends that are not so strong because they are new in tanks.

Then I go to the garage and step down my characteristics to M0 and voila I can play with them because I am the weak

as they are.

In that maner it will be something like PRO battles the skill will do the rest.

SlowPow: Read about this idea before. Don`t remember what they said a bout it. You have nice Idea if you ask me! 

 

The conversions actually ruin parkourist's hulls

SlowPow: Good you said it! I think tankers like you would like if micro upgrades went From M0: 0/200 to

M4+: 200/200 Then you would have weight M0 (level 0) and other parameters would be (higher level) around M2 M3 etc...

 

Hi there. thanks for a great game. Preferred though to upgrade individual items the old way. Particulary when I was not wanting to use too many crystals at once and I could upgrade each part as I wanted to and could afford to. .

SlowPow: Hmmm... Does someone a thought on this?

 

TANKIONLINE,

 

I GREATLY DISAGREE WITH THE NEW MICRO-UPGRADES CHANGE! NOW, YOU HAVE NO OPTION TO CUSTOMIZE YOUR TANK'S PARAMETERS AS YOU WOULD LIKE!  

ALSO, YOU CAN NO LONGER GET A PARTIAL DISCOUNT FOR ONLY PARTLY FULLY UPGRADING YOUR TANK'S INDIVIDUAL CAPABILITIES!

ANOTHER ISSUE ARISES WHEN YOU REACH A RANK THAT AUTHORIZES YOU TO PURCHASE THE NEXT M-SERIES HULL OR TURRET; AND THAT IS, THAT IF YOU HAVE NOT SPENT THE CRYSTALS TO FULLY UPGRADE YOUR HULL OR TURRET TO RECEIVE THE 100% DISCOUNT (FREE) NEXT M-SERIES ITEM (I.E. M-2 TO M-3), YOU MUST CHOOSE TO EITHER SPEND THE CRYSTALS AND TIME TO FULLY UPGRADE YOUR HULL OR TURRET TO RECEIVE THE NEXT M-SERIES ITEM FOR FREE OR PAY THE FULL PRICE OF A NEW M-SERIES ITEM WITHOUT ANY CREDIT FOR ANY OF YOUR PREVIOUS UPGRADES EVEN IF YOU ARE 30 OF 50 ON AN ITEMS UPGRADES.

 

I RECOMMEND EITHER RETURNING TO THE ORIGINAL MICRO-UPGRADES SYSTEM OR GIVING A PERCENTAGE DISCOUNT BASED ON THE DEGREE OF MICRO-UPGRADES ON THE NEW MICRO-UPGRADES SYSTEM WHEN YOU ATTAIN A NEW RANK AUTHORIZING A NEW M-SERIES HULL OR TURRET (I.E. 50% DISCOUNT FOR 25 OF 50 COMPLETED MICRO--UPGRADES ON A HULL OR TURRET).

 

I PREFER THE ORIGINAL SYSTEM FOR MICRO-UPGRADES; I LIKE TO CUSTOMIZE MY TANK WHICH MAY FULLY UPGRADE ONE OR MORE HULL OR TURRET CHARACTERISTIC BUT NOT ALL, AND I ENJOYED THE PARTIAL DISCOUNT WHEN I DID.

 

THANKS,

WARRIORCHIEF

SlowPow: Would be nice with 50% discount when half the way 25 of 50 microed. Or discount for each micro uppgrade. Also maybe the old system was better. 

 

Good.

But hate the "upgrading all parameters at the same time" one. What if one doesn't want weight on his M3 Wasp?

SlowPow: Good point. I bet many agree with you.

 

This update is going to ruin the game. The staff of tanki seriously needs some statistics from the game to understand how this is seriously going to ruin the gameplay like hell. Tanki staff is just going nuts. They are ruining the game update after update. You may ban me from forum but please understand my point first. I will give some interesting stats. These stats WILL definitely be ignored by all those selfish tankers whose equipment has got maxed due to maxly upgrading just one of the parameters earlier. THIS IS VERY UNFAIR VERY VERY UNFAIR tanki!. And you selfish tankers are worthless to improve the gameplay by giving suggestions to tanki.

 

THE example:

This is from the earlier stats of a particular gun. I choose to explain for smoky m0 as it has the most parameters (7).

 

Damage (11 parameters)

Impact force (24 parameters)

Reload time (5 parameters)

Rotation speed (25 parameters)

Range (16 parameters)

Critical chance (25 parameters)

Critical damage (25 parameters)

------------------------------------------------

Total parameters = 11 + 24 + 5 + 25 + 16 + 25 + 25 = 121 parameters to be upgraded.

 

NOW, i will explain the rubbish that tanki has just done. Suppose some tanker has upgraded critical damage completely : that is just FREAKING 25 parameters ONLY out of a whole 121!

This means he has upgraded his turret by just (25/121)*100 % = 20.66%

And stupid tanki is giving him the whole free turret! That is just like the tanker is being spoonfed the rest of the parameters. DOES FREAKING ANYONE give a 100% upgraded stuff to a guy who has just upgraded his stuff by 20.66%?

 

Ideally on the other hand, this guy has upgraded his stuff by 20.66% so that means that the tanker should get the new parameters such that it represents 20.66% of 50.

50 * 20.66% = 10.33 parameters.

THE TANKER SHOULD HENCE JUST GET A GUN OF 11 PARAMETERS UPGRADED! DO YOU FREAKING UNDERSTAND ME TANKI!!!!!? 

 

This update is just so rubbish except for the fact about speed-ups which is more sensible than before IMO.

 

I HOPE MY CRITICAL REVIEW OF THIS UPDATE WILL GET SOME SENSE TO TANKI DEVS!

 

 

 

ALSO, another important thing that Tanki is not understanding! Currently I have about 245000 crystals. I am saving up for the Christmas sale but suppose on some particular instance I want to upgrade something like suppose the reload of my M3 Railgun. That would have cost me 2448 crystals if it were as earlier BUT now, I have to freaking spend about 7000 crystals for a complete upgrade of all the parameters that I do not even want to upgrade.

WHAT SENSE DOES THIS MAKE.

 

THIS IS FOR ALL WHO UNDERSTAND MY MATH and TANKI should implement this or keeps GETTING DISLIKES even though we cant give them anymore!

SlowPow: 1) Nice choice of stats though ^-^

2) Looks like the best and fair solution to me!

3) to bad you can not choose you specific micro upgrade :(

 

DISLIKE

(as someone who switches between XP/BP and standard battles very often)

 

Now it will cost me a fortune to get the parameters I need (damage, health) to the value I want.

While you gave me all the parameters I must not have for free without asking.

 

You increasing the weight of my wasp -> now it feels sluggish.

You increased the turning speed of my wasp, so I have different timing around walls in XP/BP and standard battles

You increased the power, but not as much as the weight, so it accelerates worse

 

 

Turret aim timing:

You increased the turning speed of my rail to 15% more then I have in XP/BP, so I have to get used to different aim and swingshots EVERY time I change gamemode

 

Sure this applies only to fast hulls and long-range precision turret. All Vikings and Midrangers will be happy about the effect on their equipment. They might regret their happiness, if they look up the whole price it takes to go all way M4.

 

Greed rules, hmm?

SlowPow: Agreed with all. You had a nice set up! To bad they ruined it. :-( But the last sentence, Don`t know if it is more expensive to fully upgrade a modification than before. In a way if you didn`t upgrade all parameters.

 

 

 

 

First off,  responded and read all quotes. I have to much free time at the moment. :)

 

And here my thoughts:

Invincible black paint, just funny. Maybe a matter of time before they fix it. :)

 

All with light hulls got weight increased (they didn`t like) At least some.

 

Cind`a unfair for buyers who bought lots of micro upgrade and now others get them almost free.

 

Some say micro upgrade`s is more expensive now, but i have now idea.

 

My crazy idea: You should choose if you would upgrade all or one of the parameters. 

I remember liking the idea as said somewhere above. You could micro upgrade single parameters from example: M0 0/250 to M4+ 250/250. I liked how suha_best customized his/her smoky and an other person had some reduced weight on his/her wasp.

What if you could fully customize all parameters from (0 level to full level) or choose as you already can, the next modification (if you not have ranked to next NEXT modification of course) example you chose weight level 0 and other modifications higher or lover level steps from 0 - 250 i guess. or old system of steps. Just you can have m0 steps and m4 steps all together if you want. Imagine that light wasp...

 

 

Regards

SlowPow (Sergeant_Major) ArmoreGames

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my original account is subhadeep_biswas . there i only hornet and rail m3 damage full upgrade so i get m4 . in subhadeep_2014 i got  mammoth and shaft 2  and in polar_express i got rail and wasp m1 . the best upgrate for me in tanki online ever thank u so much tanki online community.   :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :) 

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Bad update. Tanki force us to spend more crystal on micro update that we dont want to upgrade. IMPORTANT--Before micro update, there was still free slot to update DAMAGE for my twin m3, now after update there is no free slot for damage its say +0.0..and i  update my twin DAMAGE just ONCE and other partition never in my twins.

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Hmm, not sure how I feel about this. Yes, I had some items where I had some parameters M4, and I was waiting for a sale to fully M4, now its nice that they are done with paying a penny, but with some of my stuff, I deliberately upgraded some parameters and left some alone, and now they are all fully upgraded, and I didn't particularly want that. I think the loss of customising MUs is not something I agree with. If you didn't want to fully upgrade all parameters before, this update will make it cost more to upgrade the parameters you want as you're forced to upgrade all of them, and again this is a backwards step.

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Well, the update is awesome... I was already thinking about that when I first enter the game last year... Nice job developers! Meanwhilem, will yopu return the passes? I really need the 100% pass right now, and since I have no credit card or paypal I cannot buy the prenium account. Just think of those who dont have that accessibilty pls :( Return the passes please... :(

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Not good, we must invest crystals for upgrade of something what we dont want to update. It is more expensive now. By the paints it is not possible to increase protection against all turrets together or choose some of them. F.e. by Piccaso in second step of MU its possible only increase the protection only by 2 from 4 paints.  We cannot chose whitch of them we want to upgrade.

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