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What happened to testing an update before its released? This is clearly another money grabbing opportunity, it forces me to buy to compete with whats around me, not good

This update was tested yesterday. I dont think tanki even got any replies from the tankers. The test was just for namesake imo  -_-  <_< rubbish update

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Hello, is everyone missing a big fact? I have m0 vulcan fully upgraded, yet guess what. I can't buy m1.

Same here... <_<

I have wasp m1 fully upgraded, but I have to pay full to get wasp m3.... -_-

Where in the world did the microupgrade discounts go? :huh:

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Well it wouldn't be the dev team we have come to love if they didn't roll out an utterly useless and pathetic update.

 

Why should I be forced to spend crystals on tank weight, turret rotation e.t.c when all I want is more damage? 

 Atleast one at a time it didn't feel like I was being ass raped with all the crystals it cost, Now at 16k to micro ugrade from 27/50 to 28/50 is pathetic I won't be micro upgrading a damn thing.

 

there is a quote I like, a little famous and highly appropriate.

 

 IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT

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Dislike.  This update takes away player choice about which attribute to MU.  Now we have to pay to upgrade every attribute whether we want to or not, whether or not those other attribute increases will improve our play style.  Then there is the cost.  Not bad at M0, but at M1 and M2 only premium players will be able to afford this as each upgrade step now costs tens of thousands of crystals.  All of which is lost when you buy the next mod.

 

And in the same update Premium Accounts now get twice as many bonus crystals.  Coincidence?  You do the math.  Tanki just took another big step toward Pay To Win.

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Comments i agree with, couldn`t quote all on this topic. But replied the chosen quotes in the spoiler.

At least read my idea in orange (outside the spoiler) at the bottom. TO MUTCH TEXT!

 

Little warning: 16 quotes

 

 

 

 

 

SlowPow: They say it is invincible two :o

 

SlowPow: Good Point!

 

SlowPow: Yep, I got free Isida M1 XD

 

SlowPow: Good idea! Lets see how it goes.

 

SlowPow: Not good to be forced to buy something. 

 

SlowPow: Enjoy it wile you can XD. Hope no one got reported for this glitch.

 

SlowPow: Little off topic, but good point. The speed of smaller hulls should be an advantage for catching gold. Solution as you said: You would not know to easy where gold will land.

 

SlowPow: Yep, it should be a choice. 

 

SlowPow: Sad, also as one said it will mess a little with parkour.

 

SlowPow: Read about this idea before. Don`t remember what they said a bout it. You have nice Idea if you ask me! 

 

SlowPow: Good you said it! I think tankers like you would like if micro upgrades went From M0: 0/200 to

M4+: 200/200 Then you would have weight M0 (level 0) and other parameters would be (higher level) around M2 M3 etc...

 

SlowPow: Hmmm... Does someone a thought on this?

 

SlowPow: Would be nice with 50% discount when half the way 25 of 50 microed. Or discount for each micro uppgrade. Also maybe the old system was better. 

 

SlowPow: Good point. I bet many agree with you.

 

SlowPow: 1) Nice choice of stats though ^-^

2) Looks like the best and fair solution to me!

3) to bad you can not choose you specific micro upgrade :(

 

SlowPow: Agreed with all. You had a nice set up! To bad they ruined it. :-( But the last sentence, Don`t know if it is more expensive to fully upgrade a modification than before. In a way if you didn`t upgrade all parameters.

 

 

 

 

First off,  responded and read all quotes. I have to much free time at the moment. :)

 

And here my thoughts:

Invincible black paint, just funny. Maybe a matter of time before they fix it. :)

 

All with light hulls got weight increased (they didn`t like) At least some.

 

Cind`a unfair for buyers who bought lots of micro upgrade and now others get them almost free.

 

Some say micro upgrade`s is more expensive now, but i have now idea.

 

My crazy idea: You should choose if you would upgrade all or one of the parameters. 

I remember liking the idea as said somewhere above. You could micro upgrade single parameters from example: M0 0/250 to M4+ 250/250. I liked how suha_best customized his/her smoky and an other person had some reduced weight on his/her wasp.

What if you could fully customize all parameters from (0 level to full level) or choose as you already can, the next modification (if you not have ranked to next NEXT modification of course) example you chose weight level 0 and other modifications higher or lover level steps from 0 - 250 i guess. or old system of steps. Just you can have m0 steps and m4 steps all together if you want. Imagine that light wasp...

 

 

Regards

SlowPow (Sergeant_Major) ArmoreGames

 

Comments i agree with, couldn`t quote all on this topic. But replied the chosen quotes in the spoiler.

At least read my idea in orange (outside the spoiler) at the bottom. TO MUTCH TEXT!

 

Little warning: 16 quotes

 

 

 

 

 

SlowPow: They say it is invincible two :o

 

SlowPow: Good Point!

 

SlowPow: Yep, I got free Isida M1 XD

 

SlowPow: Good idea! Lets see how it goes.

 

SlowPow: Not good to be forced to buy something. 

 

SlowPow: Enjoy it wile you can XD. Hope no one got reported for this glitch.

 

SlowPow: Little off topic, but good point. The speed of smaller hulls should be an advantage for catching gold. Solution as you said: You would not know to easy where gold will land.

 

SlowPow: Yep, it should be a choice. 

 

SlowPow: Sad, also as one said it will mess a little with parkour.

 

SlowPow: Read about this idea before. Don`t remember what they said a bout it. You have nice Idea if you ask me! 

 

SlowPow: Good you said it! I think tankers like you would like if micro upgrades went From M0: 0/200 to

M4+: 200/200 Then you would have weight M0 (level 0) and other parameters would be (higher level) around M2 M3 etc...

 

SlowPow: Hmmm... Does someone a thought on this?

 

SlowPow: Would be nice with 50% discount when half the way 25 of 50 microed. Or discount for each micro uppgrade. Also maybe the old system was better. 

 

SlowPow: Good point. I bet many agree with you.

 

SlowPow: 1) Nice choice of stats though ^-^

2) Looks like the best and fair solution to me!

3) to bad you can not choose you specific micro upgrade :(

 

SlowPow: Agreed with all. You had a nice set up! To bad they ruined it. :-( But the last sentence, Don`t know if it is more expensive to fully upgrade a modification than before. In a way if you didn`t upgrade all parameters.

 

 

 

 

First off,  responded and read all quotes. I have to much free time at the moment. :)

 

And here my thoughts:

Invincible black paint, just funny. Maybe a matter of time before they fix it. :)

 

All with light hulls got weight increased (they didn`t like) At least some.

 

Cind`a unfair for buyers who bought lots of micro upgrade and now others get them almost free.

 

Some say micro upgrade`s is more expensive now, but i have now idea.

 

My crazy idea: You should choose if you would upgrade all or one of the parameters. 

I remember liking the idea as said somewhere above. You could micro upgrade single parameters from example: M0 0/250 to M4+ 250/250. I liked how suha_best customized his/her smoky and an other person had some reduced weight on his/her wasp.

What if you could fully customize all parameters from (0 level to full level) or choose as you already can, the next modification (if you not have ranked to next NEXT modification of course) example you chose weight level 0 and other modifications higher or lover level steps from 0 - 250 i guess. or old system of steps. Just you can have m0 steps and m4 steps all together if you want. Imagine that light wasp...

 

 

Regards

SlowPow (Sergeant_Major) ArmoreGames

 

i totally agree with you this idea is excellent

 

 

 

yeah and the new ones are expensive and i dont like em !!

 

 

please upvote slow pow's idea its excellent

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Downvote !

 

I'll start by saying I did receive two items fully mu'd to M4 as a result of this update, but looking at the whole picture and how it will effect the game I believe it's a terrible update.

 

It's obviously just another update putting finances before the quality of the game. And yes I know it's a business before anyone decides to go down that road, but if the quality of any product is poor no one will buy it, regardless of it's nature. This will throw out the game balance so badly on many levels from low to high ranks.

 

For anyone who has recently reached the rank of Master Sergeant and purchased the Firebird M1, and then fully mu'd just 1 parameter, they will be thinking all their birthdays have just came at once. For they are now running around with an M2 Firebird ! , when the majority of players at their rank will have M0 turrets. This is obviously repeated through the ranks where a player has just bought the first available turret or hull on the next tier. The problem is even greater where players may have bought a kit with a turret and hull becoming available 2 or 3 ranks early. Just try wiping the smile off their faces if they fully mu'd just 1 parameter.

 

Moving on to the higher ranks, the players who benefit most are those players who have been at the rank of Gizmo for a number of years. These players have had nothing to spend crystals on except micro upgrades and supplies. I would estimate that a large proportion of them will have at least 1 parameter fully mu'd on most items they own in the garage. This creates an even larger gap to contend with for the higher ranks and even new Gizmos when joining these battles.

 

Some months ago in an earlier V-Log, it was said about the developers..." We strive to achieve a near perfect game balance. "

 

Really !  If that's the case then what's going on here ? This update swings it in the completely opposite direction !

Do you still stand by this viewpoint, or have the powers at be, given you a new directive ?

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I like it, but I don't like it at the same time. There should be an option to MU one single parameter at a time. Along with this button that allows us to MU all stats at the same time.

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Downvote !

 

I'll start by saying I did receive two items fully mu'd to M4 as a result of this update, but looking at the whole picture and how it will effect the game I believe it's a terrible update.

 

It's obviously just another update putting finances before the quality of the game. And yes I know it's a business before anyone decides to go down that road, but if the quality of any product is poor no one will buy it, regardless of it's nature. This will throw out the game balance so badly on many levels from low to high ranks.

 

For anyone who has recently reached the rank of Master Sergeant and purchased the Firebird M1, and then fully mu'd just 1 parameter, they will be thinking all their birthdays have just came at once. For they are now running around with an M2 Firebird ! , when the majority of players at their rank will have M0 turrets. This is obviously repeated through the ranks where a player has just bought the first available turret or hull on the next tier. The problem is even greater where players may have bought a kit with a turret and hull becoming available 2 or 3 ranks early. Just try wiping the smile off their faces if they fully mu'd just 1 parameter.

 

Moving on to the higher ranks, the players who benefit most are those players who have been at the rank of Gizmo for a number of years. These players have had nothing to spend crystals on except micro upgrades and supplies. I would estimate that a large proportion of them will have at least 1 parameter fully mu'd on most items they own in the garage. This creates an even larger gap to contend with for the higher ranks and even new Gizmos when joining these battles.

 

Some months ago in an earlier V-Log, it was said about the developers..." We strive to achieve a near perfect game balance. "

 

Really !  If that's the case then what's going on here ? This update swings it in the completely opposite direction !

Do you still stand by this viewpoint, or have the powers at be, given you a new directive ?

I love your non-selfishness bro seriously. I love your honesty. I just don't understand why other people dont see the point

 

I just cant imagine. Suppose a guy bought stinger kit at WO4 (hornet m2 + isida m2) and b4 this update had upgraded one whole parameter.... HE freaking would have a hornet m3 and isida m3 about 8 ranks below where he should have it. People would say what if just one guy would have it that way, I would say that one freaking guy has the power to ruin any battle for others

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Wait.. so if I want to upgrade the armor of my M3 hornet all the way does this mean I need to spend something like 500,000 crystals?

There are no more "individual parameters" for micro-upgrading. I think the users found certain parameters mattered when MUing and did not have to upgrade all the way. I think the majority of MUs were used to upgrade the Damage parameter and that was probably enough to have a slight edge or compete at the same level. Now you are forced to MU everything if you want that same Damage upgrade.

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No, just total up costs for every single mu on hornet and that's all

 

Protection (166.3 → 210.0) = 136 680 crystals

 

Maximum speed (11.03 → 12.00) = 205 019 crystals

 

Turning speed (110.6 → 130.0) = 102 511 crystals

 

Weight (2012 → 2400) = 102 511 crystals

 

Power (1222 → 1400) = 136 680 crystals

 

Total = 683 401 crystals !!!

 

So let me get the straight... I will need to spend over half a million crystals to upgrade protection all the way? Think I might as well quit the game.

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Thanx a lot... Great Update...

Rail M4

Hornet M4

Needle Full MU

 

Smoky M3 half MU
Isida M3 half MU

Thunder M3 half MU

 

If I knew about this I would've fully upgraded a small parameter of everything I had xD

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This is a very unfair and false upgrade. My friend had micro upgraded the shield of his viking till maximum, 25 upgrades, only that, nothing else. I thought it is so much better to micro upgrade all parameters so i did upgrade all parameters step by step togheter. I had upgraded 42 times, but the highest upgrade was 10 times.

 

Now my friend have a fully upgraded m4 viking for only micro upgrading 25 times. While i have only 30 steps of 50 now. And i upgraded 42 times.

 

VERY UNFAIR !!!!!

 

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