[Issue 44] The Dumbest Anti-supply Arguments of All-Time!

[Spit_Fyre 334]

I'll be giving honest feedback about this article. So let me begin with a disclaimer :
 
I would like to offer improvement advice as merely that - advice. The author is free to take it or ignore (and I don't have to know which since I'll find out later anyway). My intention is to impart information with the hope that I can enjoy more inspirational writes in the future.
 

Opening comments:
Purely in terms of aspects of the written word - grammar, sentence structure, etc - this article is reasonably well written. Since the writing style comes across as very 'strong', IMHO the adopted style of humour is antagonistic to a heavy subject such as this. And considering it’s controversial, banking mainly on the opinions of people, I think a certain degree of sensitivity is warranted in the tone of the article.
 

 

 

-->What seems to be the main purpose/theme(s) of the article?

Preaching etiquette seems to be the primary purpose. Busting myths about supply usage is a potentially strong theme - the success of its implementation though may be better judged overall from other reader inputs.

-->What can be done to improve the presentation of this article?

The paragraphs are numerous/lengthy, drowning the 5 key arguments; Spoilers suggested.
Brevity is a desirable feature in an article.

-->What can be done to improve the tone?

A consistent, balanced tone throughout aids intellectual engagement. This piece started out bouncing and light, quickly turned intense and the initial humour dried up.
 

1. Words set the tone of writing so you may do well to choose them wisely. Let me clarify: the words themselves aren't the problem. I would think twice about the 'context' before using words like these in an article for a community newspaper: dissing, militant(terrorist?), dumbest, crap, undies :mellow:
2. Words in complete capital letters are best left trimmed to a bare minimum – use only where you want real drama. God forbid the audience feel you used a drill instead of a pen.
3. I highly recommend caution, control and most importantly 'grace' for wherever you choose to digress from the focal point(s) into an imaginary scene or story.
4. When quoting an argument, try to phrase it respectfully and coherently. For eg. Consider dropping "nasty-wasty meany" from this line: "Pro battle passes are not an option for avoiding those nasty-wasty meany druggers."
5. When countering an argument, try to keep it level. For eg. Consider this paragraph:

"Pro passes are a measly 5000 crystals. That is not expensive at all, or it wouldn’t be if tankers would quit bawling, play the game, and earn crystals. I earn about 5000 every three hours of playing, from my top-of-the-leaderboard battlefunds and daily missions."

rephrased like this-
"Pro passes cost 5000 crystals. An average tanker at my rank earns ... through battles and completing missions. This can easily make up for the expense of the pass."
It conveys the same meaning while remaining impersonal.

 

-->What can be done to improve the mood of this writing?

Try altering the POV from first/second person narrative (I, me, my, myself, mine, we, you, your) to third person without all those in-your-face pronouns:
1st person: "I never make mistakes so I never learn." -_-
2nd person: "You never make mistakes so you never learn." :unsure:
3rd person: "He never makes mistakes so he never learns." B)

-->What can be done to improve the plot/approach?

To a generic reader like myself, the cider sharing backdrop eventually feels like a contrived lifeline anchoring thoughts that would seem, given free vein, to fly off the handle. In addition, a list of names included and indirect hints at undeclared names gift the piece an elitist touch. Suggestions:
 

1. Include viewpoints from the mute characters who have been roped in - break the monologue with some conversation.
2. Weigh the difference between 'refutation' and 'rebuttal' in terms of the position of power being spoken(written) from. A refutation is more in line with the tanki newspaper IMHO.
3. Ending on a more harmonious note may help convince readers to stop and think?

 

 

Closing comments: This article does have a point. I felt it needs cutbacks and revisions though. I liked the Rio article better than this. Good luck.

 

All the words above are opinions :rolleyes: . I'm not looking to start conversations contesting them nor am I pledging allegiance to any tanki division.

[sonofchrysalis3 3,719]

I'll be giving honest feedback about this article. So let me begin with a disclaimer :

 

I would like to offer improvement advice as merely that - advice. The author is free to take it or ignore (and I don't have to know which since I'll find out later anyway). My intention is to impart information with the hope that I can enjoy more inspirational writes in the future.

 

Opening comments:

Purely in terms of aspects of the written word - grammar, sentence structure, etc - this article is reasonably well written. Since the writing style comes across as very 'strong', IMHO the adopted style of humour is antagonistic to a heavy subject such as this. And considering it’s controversial, banking mainly on the opinions of people, I think a certain degree of sensitivity is warranted in the tone of the article.

 

 

 

-->What seems to be the main purpose/theme(s) of the article?

 

Preaching etiquette seems to be the primary purpose. Busting myths about supply usage is a potentially strong theme - the success of its implementation though may be better judged overall from other reader inputs.

 

-->What can be done to improve the presentation of this article?

 

The paragraphs are numerous/lengthy, drowning the 5 key arguments; Spoilers suggested.

Brevity is a desirable feature in an article.

 

-->What can be done to improve the tone?

 

A consistent, balanced tone throughout aids intellectual engagement. This piece started out bouncing and light, quickly turned intense and the initial humour dried up.

 

1. Words set the tone of writing so you may do well to choose them wisely. Let me clarify: the words themselves aren't the problem. I would think twice about the 'context' before using words like these in an article for a community newspaper: dissing, militant(terrorist?), dumbest, crap, undies :mellow:
2. Words in complete capital letters are best left trimmed to a bare minimum – use only where you want real drama. God forbid the audience feel you used a drill instead of a pen.
3. I highly recommend caution, control and most importantly 'grace' for wherever you choose to digress from the focal point(s) into an imaginary scene or story.
4. When quoting an argument, try to phrase it respectfully and coherently. For eg. Consider dropping "nasty-wasty meany" from this line: "Pro battle passes are not an option for avoiding those nasty-wasty meany druggers."
5. When countering an argument, try to keep it level. For eg. Consider this paragraph:

"Pro passes are a measly 5000 crystals. That is not expensive at all, or it wouldn’t be if tankers would quit bawling, play the game, and earn crystals. I earn about 5000 every three hours of playing, from my top-of-the-leaderboard battlefunds and daily missions."

rephrased like this-

"Pro passes cost 5000 crystals. An average tanker at my rank earns ... through battles and completing missions. This can easily make up for the expense of the pass."

It conveys the same meaning while remaining impersonal.

 

-->What can be done to improve the mood of this writing?

 

Try altering the POV from first/second person narrative (I, me, my, myself, mine, we, you, your) to third person without all those in-your-face pronouns:

1st person: "I never make mistakes so I never learn." -_-

2nd person: "You never make mistakes so you never learn." :unsure:

3rd person: "He never makes mistakes so he never learns." B)

 

-->What can be done to improve the plot/approach?

 

To a generic reader like myself, the cider sharing backdrop eventually feels like a contrived lifeline anchoring thoughts that would seem, given free vein, to fly off the handle. In addition, a list of names included and indirect hints at undeclared names gift the piece an elitist touch. Suggestions:

 

1. Include viewpoints from the mute characters who have been roped in - break the monologue with some conversation.
2. Weigh the difference between 'refutation' and 'rebuttal' in terms of the position of power being spoken(written) from. A refutation is more in line with the tanki newspaper IMHO.
3. Ending on a more harmonious note may help convince readers to stop and think?

 

 

 

Closing comments: This article does have a point. I felt it needs cutbacks and revisions though. I liked the Rio article better than this. Good luck.

 

All the words above are opinions :rolleyes: . I'm not looking to start conversations contesting them nor am I pledging allegiance to any tanki division.

Thank you for your constructive, useful advice.

[MandolinMarc 874]

Thank you for your constructive, useful advice.

The implication being, I take it, that you don't find more to-the-point, unapologetic advice as constructive or useful.

 

If you'll allow me to go on a bit of a philosophical tangent here, society has come to view negative feedback as mean and insensitive. It's become socially unacceptable (in most cases) to tell someone they're badly dressed, whereas you hear people complimenting each other on their wardrobe all the time. When you tell someone they're bad at something, that's often viewed as an ad hominem attack.

 

As a result, people "butter up" their opinions about others, delicately surrounding negative criticism with empty compliments. They sacrifice the truth just to make others feel better about themselves. I try my best not to partake in any such buttering up.

 

And if you see this post as an insult/attack towards either Chrysalis or @Spit_Fyre, that just goes to show how we so frequently misinterpret negative criticism.

 

 

 

I could be completely wrong about the implication, in which this post is best ignored

 

 

Edited December 6, 2015 by MandolinMarc

[Supernatural 2,053]

The implication being, I take it, that you don't find more to-the-point, unapologetic advice as constructive or useful.

 

If you'll allow me to go on a bit of a philosophical tangent here, society has come to view negative feedback as mean and insensitive. It's become socially unacceptable (in most cases) to tell someone they're badly dressed, whereas you hear people complimenting each other on their wardrobe all the time. When you tell someone they're bad at something, that's often viewed as an ad hominem attack.

 

As a result, people "butter up" their opinions about others, delicately surrounding negative criticism with empty compliments. They sacrifice the truth just to make others feel better about themselves. I try my best not to partake in any such buttering up.

 

And if you see this post as an insult/attack towards either Chrysalis or @Spit_Fyre, that just goes to show how we so frequently misinterpret negative criticism.

 

 

 

I could be completely wrong about the implication, in which this post is best ignored

 

 

He won't thank your actually constructive and objective post as you said negative things about him and the "article" mostly. Simple as this...

[Hex 11,520]

Wheres the downvote button when you need it -_- <_<

Edited December 7, 2015 by Hexed

[personia 4,036]

Thank you for your constructive, useful advice.

Huh... Okay then? Just ignore all the other relatively constructive feedback that (for instance) MandolinMarc, lukey0 and KillerGnat posted. I'm not saying that all of the feedback is constructive, but seriously, that's pretty harsh...

Edited December 6, 2015 by personia

[Spit_Fyre 334]

Thank you for your constructive, useful advice.

You are welcome.

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

Huh... Okay then? Just ignore all the other relatively constructive feedback that (for instance) MandolinMarc, lukey0 and KillerGnat posted. I'm not saying that all of the feedback is constructive, but seriously, that's pretty harsh...

Just let him reside in his ivory TOwer... ;)

[Quarks 2,255]

Not a bad article. The premise of it had a lot of potential. I thought this would be a joke and create nonsensical and pointless jokes about drugs, such as "Drugs are stupid, so you are stupid". But nope. You took a different approach. You attempted to break the ice by dropping name bombs and jokes in. Not a bad idea, but there was a bit much. Finally, the article was too long. After the third one, it became a little hard to concentrate, as many of the points you used earlier are used again. I think even you got bored with it, seeing as the lengths of arguments became shorter. Please note this is not in contradiction to what you are saying, but simple comments on the article. That made no sense. Not criticising the material. There we go.

[sonofchrysalis3 3,719]

the article was too long.

You aren't the first one to say this. Another said the formatting was bad, and I can't disagree. The time I should've been devoting to editing and shortening this article was being used for writing a... uh... something for next issue  :P .

 

Thank you for your input; editing will be more emphasized in the next go-round.

[IVIr.Catalyst 1,035]

Comments to the article got more likes than the actual article.Thats when you know it really sucks ;)

[Supernatural 2,053]

Comments to the article got more likes than the actual article.Thats when you know it really sucks ;)

Sums it up.

[CockneyLad 31]

Great article, i believe you sum up what a lot of tankers are thinking but are too afraid to say. The 'drug' arguement will never end i feel, but thats a good thing as its so god damn entertaining.

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

Great article, i believe you sum up what a lot of tankers are thinking but are too afraid to say. The 'drug' arguement will never end i feel, but thats a good thing as its so god damn entertaining.

Of course the argument may never cease to exist... but I don't understand how it's "entertaining" to watch... especially when some of the people who try making it seem like people are full-blown druggers and the mathematics they use to find these 'conclusions' that they THINK suit their argument are jacked to hell. And then the persistence of their ways makes even a soundly intelligent person question his own logics. I personally don't think it's funny. And you shouldn't think it's funny either when you have 'people' trying to take advantage of your mind. There's a clear difference between discussing and finding the solution to 'problem' and basically calling someone stupid by manipulating YOU and the others around you.

Edited December 9, 2015 by Dragon-Judgement

[GHOST68INVINCIBLE 152]

Nicely said sonof nicely said.

[LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH 1,921]

Mr., umm I'd like to point out that shadow35 is 18 years old and people younger than 21 cannot consume alcohol, and seeing as cider is an alcoholic beverage, I'm afraid you're gonna have to come to jail with me. Please, for your sake don't say anything, because anything you say will be used against you when you are in ponyland court. Hope you enjoy your time in ponytail.

[omrot 2,327]

Where is the down vote button when you need it?  :angry: 

[BSG-62 512]

I agree with some points but i disagree entirely with PRO passes being cheap - i have the neither the time to get 5000 crystals on short notice (<1 hour a day because i don't let gaming dominate my life) nor being able to understand why they cost so much (rip offs....). 

 

PS: this ain't a newspaper article, this is a bloody rant! oh and save me a little cider will you?I'll take it into international waters...

Edited December 10, 2015 by BSG-62

[bury104 0]

Spoken with an "Arnold Scharzenegger" accent:

 

Ya, dis all bull****!  

How can I be caalm when enemies shooot at you?!  When I come from the GYM, my hands are so tired  that I press all keyboard keys in SLOW MOTION.  Das nein gut !!!  ... and I often explode on battlefield even when nobody shooting at me ... I ask myself  "W.H.Y ?!" ... and then my mind explodes too !!!

Yes, I get angry, and I keep hitting the keyboard, even after when the battle is finished.  I  H.A.T.E.  these noobs who put MINES all over the place like crazy, for example, I run with FLAG  for nearest medkit, and I get it, but I explode (duh !)... because there was a f*** mine under it, so I can NEVER win a battle 1 vs 10 enemy tanks.  (Annoying!).

I already broke 2 keyboards playing TankiOnline !

Aaargh !!! ... umm !! ... Grrr !! ...

 

 

(imagine an ARNOLD SCHARZENEGGER voice impersonation)

Edited December 10, 2015 by bury104

[pwhite 120]

If you don't like drugging, then leave the dam game. I am a premium kit buyer, and I don't drug, so why does it matter? I have no issue when someone is drugging, unless they cant turn turret, but whatever that does not matter at all. What matters here is if you do not like something, then you do not have to do it. This is not the Soviet Union, you do have the freedom to choose what to do. Now choose your path and stop annoying me.

[Brubook 1,161]

Amazing article; really clears and sums up what's going on in TO. Now just wait for Brubook and RustyNail to show up and try putting their ill-conceived logics and "mathematics" into this. Never seen two people so intent on removing or limiting supplies... if anyone's seen their thread, you'll know what I'm referring to.

Ohoo, nice to see a "supporter" here!

 

Maybe you don't work yet ... but what if at the end of the month you got half of the wage you were supposed to get? Just to make you more familiar with the "logics and maths" of half and double concepts!

 

Twice is like two ones (just to make it simple) ... drugging means you fight with 2 instead of 1, you see?

And who drugs actually need to be 2 to beat you (that are 1) ... is that a skill?

 

Maybe you could focus that destroying a mammoth on DA, that after a while presses 1, is like trying to destroy 4 mammoths. Do you realise that?

Having a team drugging is like fighting in 16vs8 instead of 8vs8 ... do you find this balanced? Don't you complain when a team is fighting you in 8vs4? Do you like to play in 4vs8? Don't you see that drugging is the same thing?

 

You know what? What I just said is "mathematics" ... is it too much maths for you? Everything in your life has a measurement, a weight, a temperature, a speed. Crash with your car at 20MPH or at 60MPH and you will see how numbers make it different! (of course I do not wish you or anyone to crash with car)

 

I never said that drugs have to be removed, but only limited in power and usage.

 

Numbers (or mathematics as you call it) are facts while things I read here is just a "bla bla bla" from druggers that love to fulfill their egos, no matter they are skilled or not, and feel God in battles ... many times just saying "mama pass me the credit card number please" and crying if she says "no". Or, like in the author case, they support their owner to keep this wrong mechanism run as much as possible.

 

And yes, I will also point out my "ill-conceived logics and mathematics" soon!

[Brubook 1,161]

Your post has been removed for the reasons stated at the start of this topic. You will receive a reply in Private Message.

Edited December 10, 2015 by Lhamster

[Schmerznebel 12]

Enjoyed your Article although I'm a "Non"; after all I can't hate Ponies. :D

[stawp_thundertime 275]

If you are currently enjoying your time this comment is not for you. This article is not gold or anything.But the complains. :wacko:

1. "I don't like drugs in the game" deal with it complaining is only harm for you and the peole listening/reading.

2. "I'm not complaining im raising a point." good for you... humorless comment with no use is still making me bleed inside(stfu)

3. "Don't tell me what to do" sorry already did, maybe you could focus on my point

4. "This is not fair/fun/justified." go back to the 1st point

And so the wheel of invalid arguments rolls till it runs over the ***** spinning it and he leaves :P

It's not like cheapening drugs wouldn't be a solution to all of this, but nothing has nor will be done.

[Papaya14 481]

 

Ohoo, nice to see a "supporter" here!

 

Maybe you don't work yet ... but what if at the end of the month you got half of the wage you were supposed to get? Just to make you more familiar with the "logics and maths" of half and double concepts!

 

Twice is like two ones (just to make it simple) ... drugging means you fight with 2 instead of 1, you see?

And who drugs actually need to be 2 to beat you (that are 1) ... is that a skill?

 

Maybe you could focus that destroying a mammoth on DA, that after a while presses 1, is like trying to destroy 4 mammoths. Do you realise that?

Having a team drugging is like fighting in 16vs8 instead of 8vs8 ... do you find this balanced? Don't you complain when a team is fighting you in 8vs4? Do you like to play in 4vs8? Don't you see that drugging is the same thing?

 

You know what? What I just said is "mathematics" ... is it too much maths for you? Everything in your life has a measurement, a weight, a temperature, a speed. Crash with your car at 20MPH or at 60MPH and you will see how numbers make it different! (of course I do not wish you or anyone to crash with car)

 

I never said that drugs have to be removed, but only limited in power and usage.

 

Numbers (or mathematics as you call it) are facts while things I read here is just a "bla bla bla" from druggers that love to fulfill their egos, no matter they are skilled or not, and feel God in battles ... many times just saying "mama pass me the credit card number please" and crying if she says "no". Or, like in the author case, they support their owner to keep this wrong mechanism run as much as possible.

 

And yes, I will also point out my "ill-conceived logics and mathematics" soon!