[Issue 44] The Dumbest Anti-supply Arguments of All-Time!

[Sleek 43]

To be honest with you Chrysalis, I loved your writing before you became a reporter candidate, but I feel you've just gotten a bit carried away after becoming a repoter.

 

First off, you've gotten a bit carried away with the humor. There's way too much easy humor in this article (references to other reporters, for example). There's no need to force humor into every sentence.

 

You've also gotten carried away with your own opinions. Newspapers should primarily consist of objective reports and reflections upon the subject of the newspaper (in this case, TO and its community). The exception to this is opinion pieces, which should be done in a way that is respectful, logical, and sees both side of the argument even if it ends up favoring one of them. LaserShark put it well:

 

 

And finally, this article is just way too long. Remember that story you did on your little sister getting her account stolen from her? It was so short, yet so beautiful and so powerful. Longer does not equal better.

 

So my advice for you would be reflect on your roots as a Tanki writer and on what your purpose is as a Reporter of the English TO community.

Good point, at least as a Facebook moderator you don't have to deal with the same kind of thing NOR do you have to lie to the vast population of online tankers about the imbalance in the game... Which also brings me to say congrats on becoming a helper and becoming one of November's best helpers  :P

[limidi 8]

I like this post. :D  Must have taken a loooong time to write. Sonofcrysalis3, good job.

[I3loodShot 3,119]

When I read this topic

[bossman161 276]

When I read this topic

MICHEAL JACKSON!

[bossman161 276]

When I see all the adolescent squabbling in this topic over something as trivial as supplies

 

 

 

WHAT YOU SHOULD BE SQUABBLING OVER IS ACCOUNT TRANSFERS FOR TANKI X!

Edited December 10, 2015 by bossman161

[AiastesiHelper 15]

Player AiastesiHelper has been banned for a day. Reason: Provocation, trolling (Forum). 

[stawp_thundertime 275]

The above mentioned presentation took many hours to be created and was done as a contribution for the community and the game's welfare. That, we demand to be acknowledged and not be misinterpreted or abused or rumored as ill-logical or anything like some players have tried to claim

(maybe because of their own inability to play without drugging, or maybe they have played too much FPS games and like to annihilate anything that moves)...

Your topic is actuallyquite impressive. :) really made me see where your opinions come from

I appreciate it for the good arguments, but i have to ask; do you really think you are accomplishing something?

You have many good solutions, but for many you need dev support.

If your effort actually makes a change, i owe you support for your future suggestions/critisism.

But let's say devs keep the supply mechanics as such. what does that make your sharp arguments?

 

Ultimately it comes down to trust, Do you trust tanki or the commynity to do anything.

Lets be honest.

Have any of the recent updates shown compromices... the best they could do was the decrease on premium paint.

little attention given to normal players, and why would they its not like flash needs to last much longer.

I don't trust devs, i just enjoy the things they've already done for the games entertainment value.

So i think you should really question your trust on people who really only want 2 things from you: money and ways to make more money.

Then there is the community whichpeople mostly concists of childs and childish opinions.

I know there are many intelligent tankers on forum, but i think tanki isn't a big thing to many of them, and they will leave. i think you might too

I have no idea how the community could work in big ways, the dislike button was the only thing uniting their opinions...

People here can literally start arguing about anything... and tanki makes sure it stays that way by separating them to buyers, xp/bp:ers, druggers, the list goes on. If there were no normal players there would be no druggers (dualism n' ****), but by having groups of players with differing opinions on every controversial subject devs prevent major outrage.

And the community is supposed to achieve something. :rolleyes: without devs it's hopeless.

On the third note can devs and the community cooperate and for example make your suggestions for supplies true?

Yes of course...but will they choose you over buyers, over no-lifers or even over nubs?

They propably wont becouse you don't make them as much money even if your solutions would be much more balanced.

Remeber flash will most likely not be useful to devs in a short while... dead games need no balance or compromised solutions.

 

Whoo that was long :P  hope you get my point out of the jungle of words.

I'll give you hint: its not against anything anyone does, its only against the hate going on on tanki, and im not targeting anyone on the topic if you are enjoying yourselfs there is only one thing i can maybe advice you on: don't get angy with the game ^_^ <3

[Brubook 1,161]

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Your thoughts are appropriate! Our point can only be to let anyone see our ideas and it is supposed to be also of some help to devs for future updates. It is actually the representation of the "sentiment" of part of the Tanki population.

 

As we said many times and as you think too, devs will probably never update the current tanki including some of our suggestions, even if SCD kind of had that purpose.

 

And I also believe that devs are quite greedy and shortsighted (as I said too). They actually do their best to milk players as much as they can, regardless what they said before (like "kits will never be sold before rank availability") and regardless the game balance, the gameplay satisfaction and the customers. Almost every update is a proof of it. This situation clearly has no tomorrow. They don't think in a medium term way and this is a big fail for any business.

 

I think that they will never implement our ideas, not in the flash Tanki, nore in the Unity one, but this is just a personal idea.

 

They should do something about the power selling matter also because, as you said, no players = no druggers and no buyers ... hence no Tanki.

 

We, and I think I can talk for the other supporters of our post, do not hate or are not angry with anyone. This is still a game! Ok, we like it and we would like it to be at its best ... but it is still an internet game! I never get angry with anyone in real life, you can imagine that none of these things can really upset me!

[bossman161 276]

I think Captain Picard wants one thing done...

Edited December 11, 2015 by bossman161

[elliot5445 12]

Have you ever had the same fun being one of the ones to be smashed? :mellow:

 

 

Have you ever had the same fun being one of the ones to be smashed? :mellow:

 

 

like I said, I do get annoyed when that happens.  But, that doesn't mean I get mad at anyone or accuse them of being unfair.  they just have more powerups than me, and there is nothing wrong in them wanting to use them. 

[elliot5445 12]

Not to be mean, but its hilarious how everyone is up in arms about it.  Admit it, you drugged at least once in the game, right? I have before, its fun, and if the other players are smart theyll drug back!  Why is this appearing to be a big issue???

[r_meme_machine0 7]

Not to be mean, but it's hilarious how everyone is up in arms about it.  Admit it, you drugged at least once in the game, right? I have before, it's fun, and if the other players are smart they'll drug back!  Why is this appearing to be a big issue???

The reason it's become such a big issue is because SOMEBODY (we don't know who) said it was unfair to drug, and then more people, and then more, and more, and more, and more, and more, and more.... Until it just became a huge controversial thing about supplies that almost everybody has a problem with. (key word, "almost") I'll agree with you, it's absolutely hilarious.  :lol:

[viratno2 146]

OK I know that this is a very controversial topic, but you have chosen the wrong approach for some facets of this argument, like the PRO passes one. 5000 crystals, to be frank, is tough to earn even in my rank, plus it's not like you find  PRO battles a dime a dozen. It is not even close to being  common. Now if you have to be rigid on the point that there is nothing to change in PRO battles, then I can't do anything, but if you are open for some suggestions, then you can consider either promoting PRO battles or reducing the price, because, believe me, there is nothing called a 'measly 5000 crystals which I can earn daily'. BTW just try to reduce the 'brutality' of your article, people can get really offended with this 'rowdy type humour' (as I like to call it) more than they can get offended on the bringing up of this topic.

[viratno2 146]

 

Somehow it was removed, I wonder who did this and why. :mellow:

 

 

 

 

 

Well you can still see the quote....

[comandobob 15]

well this seems to be a rather belligerent topic as of current, so I suppose I will keep mum for the time being.

[comandobob 15]

Well to be perfectly honest i don't mind an occasional bout of prolific supply users here and there. It presents more of a challenge for those who wish to test themselves. The only time such mass supply use troubles me is when it is the deciding factor of the outcome of a battle. Other than that i enjoy the challenge of taking down supply users as it adds to the variety of the game.

[comandobob 15]

just for the rec i rarely use supplies check my stats if u don't believe me.

compare to other peoples supply use stats for perspective

Edited December 11, 2015 by comandobob

[viratno2 146]

Most of the players here are protesting against the article, that is, its writing style, which is to be frank, offensive for many. Drugs by itself is a controversial topic, now this article has upped the ante.

[omrot 2,327]

Great article!  As someone who has no drugs at the moment, i do find it annoying when a drugger destroys my frail hull.  But who cares? Do you run a race and complain that the winner won because of his shoes and teleporter? i dont think so.  Relax guys, drugging is a small part of what makes the game fun.  tell me you havent had fun with full drugs, smashing through every tank in your path.

I won't complain about his shoes but i will complain about him using adrenaline drug before the race (illegal)  :D

[BSG-62 512]

I think Captain Picard wants one thing done...

[Brubook 1,161]

Well to be perfectly honest i don't mind an occasional bout of prolific supply users here and there. It presents more of a challenge for those who wish to test themselves. The only time such mass supply use troubles me is when it is the deciding factor of the outcome of a battle. Other than that i enjoy the challenge of taking down supply users as it adds to the variety of the game.

Dear Bob

 

Your level of "drugging" is not to be even called drugging!

The point that some of the players here don't get is that noone wants drugs to be removed and levels of drugging like yours is fully accepted. That is a more than moderate drugging.

 

When you see someone using 50-100 drugs per hour it create a problem, that is the "mass drugs use" you talk about, that is the drugs usage that change a 10-2 battle to a 10-20 in minutes. That is not "variety" of game but rage ... that is unfair!

A 50-100 drugs per hour usage does not create any "variety" ... it is a constant exaggeration!

 

So everything come to the point of "where is every person's limit between moderate drugging and excessive drugging"?

 

Unfortunately that is now up to every single player and what you define "mass supply use that decide the outcome of a battle" some other players here define it "normal playing". This is wrong and that is why this has to be ruled and limited. Especially younger minds have no limits!

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

I could sit here, write something that would get heap of up votes. But honestly that wouldn't be the truth. Though I don't agree with everything in this umm... article, there was a lot I could agree with. Very true, I agree. Even I'm not 100% in total agreement with the author of this thread.

 

Supplies aren't the end of the world though some act like it. Supplies can't be nerfed anymore now without becoming useless. Shoot... back in the day '2,3,4' lasted for a whole 60 seconds. Dropping it down to 45, and the fact you can't really use them all at the same time anymore is enough of a nerf.

I would say I'm expecting to be called a liar by some and the claim that you CAN use all three supplies at once is only partially true and depends on the map/situation. Say you're in a small map like... Sandbox. The DA and SB drops fall fairly close to each other; pick them both up and throw in a DD and bam. That's as close as you're gonna get to having 2,3,4. Other maps, like a Polygon... the drop zones are scattered further apart, making it a challenge to have all three of them up and running. And even if you manage to grab them all up, one or two are close to expiring, so there's almost no such thing as all 3 activated.

 

The whole problem is these people who complain have never experienced 2,3,4. If 2,3,4 was bought back for just a day those people would have something to complain about. I bet they would be begging Tanki to change it back, but then still wouldn't shut-up. Yet go back to their topics and complain, yet again. I remember the days where I almost never used to drug, and actually I didn't really understand their significance back then. Occasionally I saw a drugger here and there, and sometimes I'd do it myself if there was a real need for it; like on the brink of losing a major game, things like that. I only really got into the whole drugging thing until SCD came out. At first I didn't like it because it was something unusual, but over time I started figuring them out.

 

2,3,4 was a common way to be raided, it was removed making a raid much harder, then normal battles went to max 60min, funds never get high enough for a raid. This was a common argument to nerf supplies. I remember that; not completely, but I remember.

 

Sorry to turn this into an article of its own but supply complainers have no strong arguments to remove supplies. Seriously there here to stay. Just buy a PRO Pass and stop flooding the forum.  I've never understood how 5,000 crystals was so hard to come by... unless you don't take part in any battles anyway. But 5k is even easier to gain because of the Daily Missions too, you just have to get 'lucky' and hope for the best. And just to show that PRO battles somewhat solve the "problem"... I actually went on some different servers and looked at the PRO battles there... 90% of them had Supplies and SCD OFF and only drops. I'm not going to include the other options that were either on or off because they are of no relevance right now.

[zaintahir 458]

I like your articles Pony but this was on-the-spot ridiculas,try jumping to my rank and taing my basic tank a marshal would use,4-5 m2's and 2 m3's,looking forward to another hm? now,imagine i have no supplies,and i use xp,i do but looking at normal battle,marshal battles,everyone drugs,and i mean everyone,,you dont know how irritating it is in that noise CTF when that hornet equips a repair and jumps outt of the red base because 90% people at,or near,your rank do NOT drug,so stop making articles insulting high-ranled players that don't drug as if you were the wisest drugger,or any high ranked player on earth

[bossman161 276]

I like your articles Pony but this was on-the-spot ridiculas,try jumping to my rank and taing my basic tank a marshal would use,4-5 m2's and 2 m3's,looking forward to another hm? now,imagine i have no supplies,and i use xp,i do but looking at normal battle,marshal battles,everyone drugs,and i mean everyone,,you dont know how irritating it is in that noise CTF when that hornet equips a repair and jumps outt of the red base because 90% people at,or near,your rank do NOT drug,so stop making articles insulting high-ranled players that don't drug as if you were the wisest drugger,or any high ranked player on earth

Heh. I bought twenty repair kits yesterday because of an annoying Firebird. He came right up to me and tried to fry me but with [1] heh...let's just say all his plans went up in....smoke against the business end of my M1 twins.

 

 

Also i bought twenty Double Armor/Power supplies. I look at people three ranks ahead of me when I fight and I laugh. No longer am I so defenseless and utterly destroyable. Don't mess with me, you will regret it.

 

Edited December 11, 2015 by bossman161

[suhrusai1234 1]

It's your personal opinion on something, only because you always protect tanki. And you get paid for that... tell me more. Next issue I want 2nd part of this article. And to be more clear, just say: "You dumb* noobs, I get crystals from tanki so I protect tanki whatever happens. So close your mouths and eat this. "

 

try going into a generalissimo game, Poly CP. And see what happens if a drugger mammoth+vulcan and his drugger isida sits on the point... You know what? Add me as a friend and I will show you... And maybe you won't be writing this type of stuff.

 

Ham, can I apply for the writer job? My only role would be to try to protect tanki after any update or sale. Oh wait, that role is already taken by someone...

 

Another idea for son, next issue, "Why is a 0% sale better than a 40% sale". Really wanna see that.

 

*Quoted from the title, can't ban me for that :)

"and some people may need to get a sense of humour when reading this."

 

I love how you call people dumb for the umpteenth time. Always makes me feel proud that I'm dumb because my opinion doesn't match yours... I wish hog was still here, his articles were funny, helpful, and he didn't insult players.

Mind u r words they are kind of 90% correct. Only the last one was a bit wrong