[Issue 44] The Dumbest Anti-supply Arguments of All-Time!

[The-Operator219 1,929]

The author, watching the replies come in.

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

 

The author, watching the replies come in.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

 

The author, watching the replies come in.

Make it cider and you're spot-on.

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

Make it cider and you're spot-on.

I am spot on: he 's drinking a Jacques rouge (red) ofcourse!

 

 

(it 's a non-alcoholic beverage)

 

[Supernatural 2,053]

Using supplies don't help you get better score. Or does it?

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

Using supplies don't help you get better score. Or does it?

Ofcourse they do.

Especially with that "spreading-disaster-combo" you are using on those pictures.

Mammoth/Vulcan with Zeus.

A lot of them fully MU 'd I guess and in almost all cases using supplies 24/7.

 

Do you have to be skilled to make it work?

Nope, just spawn, put on a Double Armour...900 HP...and just start firing.

The corner penetrating, amazing angle and huge impact force "hail" (that makes fighting

against it impossible when under fire) will take care of the rest.

Zeus will keep you pretty cool and if you do get damaged: take a healtkit

and your back in business.

 

Hate this combo, which is a true battledestroyer:

don 't hate the user, but do blame TO for allowing such

overpoweredness on the battlefield. Simply plain ridiculous.

 

But maybe it 's all in the plan.

Allowing. even promoting uneven power on TO 's battlefields.

Next make the new Tanki X balanced and you don 't have to be

that smart to know what will happen.

Edited December 13, 2015 by Lord-of-the-Snipers

[Helindu_2014 830]

Firebird M2's are a pain. I have Storm paint with 21% protect against Firebird...though it always fails me.

I had the same problem at your rank.

M2 Fires were a scorching pain!

 

Solution - Bought Loam

 

Problem Solved.

[Supernatural 2,053]

Ofcourse they do.

Especially with that "spreading-disaster-combo" you are using on those pictures.

Mammoth/Vulcan with Zeus.

A lot of them fully MU 'd I guess and in almost all cases using supplies 24/7.

 

Do you have to be skilled to make it work?

Nope, just spawn, put on a Double Armour...900 HP...and just start firing.

The corner penetrating, amazing angle and huge impact force "hail" (that makes fighting

against it impossible when under fire) will take care of the rest.

Zeus will keep you pretty cool and if you do get damaged: take a healtkit

and your back in business.

 

Hate this combo, which is a true battledestroyer:

don 't hate the user, but do blame TO for allowing such

overpoweredness on the battlefield. Simply plain ridiculous.

 

But maybe it 's all in the plan.

Allowing. even promoting uneven power on TO 's battlefields.

Next make the new Tanki X balanced and you don 't have to be

that smart to know what will happen.

I know. I only use this combo when enemy messes with me... You actually need no skills for Vulcan. (But I do have skills. )

Vulcan is a damn OP thing, and I don't even have lots of MU's on mammoth-vulcan, both under 20/50. It can't be killed if camping on the top, only by some troll rails. Imagine it with a slave isida, which is getting more and more famous... Isida goes to the tunnel next to the point, starts mining, stays down, Mammoth-Vulcan above him, both going full supp, and you actually have no chance.

Edited December 13, 2015 by Supernatural

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

I know. I only use this combo when enemy messes with me... You actually need no skills for Vulcan. (But I do have skills. )

Vulcan is a damn OP thing, and I don't even have lots of MU's on mammoth-vulcan, both under 20/50. It can't be killed if camping on the top, only by some troll rails. Imagine it with a slave isida, which is getting more and more famous... Isida goes to the tunnel next to the point, starts mining, stays down, Mammoth-Vulcan above him, both going full supp, and you actually have no chance.

._. Now I can honestly say I have a love/hate relationship with supplies... and that situation you described is where I hate them, alot lol.

[The_Doctors_tank 0]

Joined the forums just to like this thread. By the way, I'll have a glass of cider if you don't mind :)

[sonofchrysalis3 3,719]

Joined the forums just to like this thread. By the way, I'll have a glass of cider if you don't mind :)

I shall be happy to accommodate your request.

 

 

And let me be the first to welcome you to the forum.

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

Joined the forums just to like this thread. By the way, I'll have a glass of cider if you don't mind :)

Welcome to the Forum :)

[personia 4,036]

 

 

 

Ohoo, nice to see a "supporter" here!

 

Maybe you don't work yet ... but what if at the end of the month you got half of the wage you were supposed to get? Just to make you more familiar with the "logics and maths" of half and double concepts!

 

Twice is like two ones (just to make it simple) ... drugging means you fight with 2 instead of 1, you see?

And who drugs actually need to be 2 to beat you (that are 1) ... is that a skill?

 

Maybe you could focus that destroying a mammoth on DA, that after a while presses 1, is like trying to destroy 4 mammoths. Do you realise that?

Having a team drugging is like fighting in 16vs8 instead of 8vs8 ... do you find this balanced? Don't you complain when a team is fighting you in 8vs4? Do you like to play in 4vs8? Don't you see that drugging is the same thing?

 

You know what? What I just said is "mathematics" ... is it too much maths for you? Everything in your life has a measurement, a weight, a temperature, a speed. Crash with your car at 20MPH or at 60MPH and you will see how numbers make it different! (of course I do not wish you or anyone to crash with car)

 

I never said that drugs have to be removed, but only limited in power and usage.

 

Numbers (or mathematics as you call it) are facts while things I read here is just a "bla bla bla" from druggers that love to fulfill their egos, no matter they are skilled or not, and feel God in battles ... many times just saying "mama pass me the credit card number please" and crying if she says "no". Or, like in the author case, they support their owner to keep this wrong mechanism run as much as possible.

 

And yes, I will also point out my "ill-conceived logics and mathematics" soon!

 

 

 

 

Let's see:

 

 

As one studies said rebuttals, one notices one common denominator: they are all hysterically funny. They usually take the form of enraged rants posted by militant anti-supply tankers

 

You did say NOTHING, apart slight offence.

 

 

 

Also in this article you will see that the word "drug" is not used by me. The term is offensive, as it refers to a chemical substance that makes a person act illogically and immorally

 

"Drugs" term comes from historical reasons, where the drugs had different graphics and they were colloquially called like that, so it is not offensive.

Also, you perfectly know that "drugs" here is referred as an "enhancer". Leave subsequent evaluation of what players do with that enhancement, you come only to the conclusions you prefer.

 

 

 

Druggers are bullies and cheaters

 

I never said "cheaters", but yes, druggers are often bullies. Spawn killing a team that is left in 2 with a full 8 team is just an example. But you probably think that this behaviour is nice!

Drugs are a easier way to go to the point, winning in this case.

Asking a player to leave instead of teaching him how to use his turret or tank tends to bully, and it is very unpolite.

 

 

 

supply user = evil

 

No. Supply abuser = evil

Again you distort the things people say to your advantage.

 

 

 

Tanki GIVES the supplies away and ENCOURAGES players to use them

 

Tanki SELLS the drugs and encourages their use and this is an economical matter. Nothing to do with balance, fairplay, bullying

 

 

 

The next part of the accusation, the allegation that supply-using Tankers are bullies, is equally as ridiculous. First of all, the tanker who says this is essentially saying that almost all tankers are bullies, since almost all tankers use the supplies to aid their performance.

 

A lot of word but you explained nothing, you just stated that many tankers use drugs ... and?

 

 

 

Now, you, the supply-less tanker, may feel like you are being bullied as you are stumbling around the map in that little M0 Wasp Smoky, firing blindly at those big, mean old M1 Wasp Ricochets who keep kicking your witless flank.

 

This is just the example you like to come to your point, but it doesn't say anything

 

 

 

And, at times, you may feel like running to Mommy and screaming “MOMMY MOMMY THOSE MEAN OLD TANKS WON’T QUIT BEATING ME!” To which she will respond, as always, by shoving in a pacifier and changing your soiled diaper.

 

Here you should be banned. It is not the first time you offend people defining them children. Why the hell do you have to offend people? Who do you think you are?

 

 

 

It’s called life. You are not always going to be the god of everything

 

Noone asks to be God (apart druggers). People just want to play with the same or similar base condition of the opponents, like it happens in any sport for example.

 

 

 

That, my dear Non tanker, is something you should consider. Maybe the others are not wicked for winning against you. Maybe you are just a bad player. And maybe that could be remedied if you’d use the supplies.

 

Here you confirm that even a bad player can remedy using drugs. He can be good even if he has no skills.

 

 

 

You are, for some insane reason, assuming that supplies replace skill. That is so absurd. In order to use supplies effectively, YOU MUST BE A SKILLED PLAYER.

 

Apart that you confirmed the contrary a sentence ago, but which kind of "skills" are required to press 1-2-3-4 numbers? Which skill is required to face an enemy with the equivalent of 2 tanks?

Maybe the skill to count till 15 in order to activate the second drug ... yes, it must be that!

 

 

 

You can buy a ten-thousand pack of supplies and use them incessantly, but if you are unskilled, you are going to waste every one of those supplies.

 

This is partially true, as you said above. On the other way round, even if you are skilled you cannot win against a drug abuser.

 

 

 

The problem is not that your opponents lack skills; it’s that YOU, militant supply-less tanker, lack skills.

 

Ok, you are telling me dumb, child and noob. Is that enough? Or you want to offend me more? And what the hell are the "moderators" here for? To ban me because I say that I am offended by this dumb sentence or to ban EVERYONE WHO OFFEND?

 

 

 

Tanki is going to fall apart because it requires players to pay if they want to win! Open your wallet and you will be a champion!

 

The second part is mine. And it is true. Now make some calculations. A marshal with full M4 combo, with other 2 combos in the garage, with 3-4 MUed paints that use 50-100 drugs per hour with totals of 10.000 or so in the last week or month ... can he do it not buying?

From that it comes: free-to-play and pay-to-win ... Open your wallet and you will be a champion!

 

 

 

They are given away as gifts for completing Daily Missions

 

Not 10.000 a month.

 

 

 

E. Having bought the kit, you realize that you have a pocketful of crystals remaining. You buy a supply kit.

 

You forgot to mention MUeing your kit ... and you should prove somehow you are left with a "pocketful of crystals" ... because that is FALSE.

 

 

 

This flow of logic has been used for years by multitudes of tankers.

 

Another fool to prove the previous one. Again, what about M4?

 

 

 

Pro battle passes are not an option for avoiding those nasty-wasty meany druggers. Hackers can use drugs in pro battles

 

I never talked about hackers and I will not start now. I am too ignorant in that subject.

 

 

 

I earn about 5000 every three hours of playing, from my top-of-the-leaderboard battlefunds and daily missions.

 

You do, at your rank and drugging (or you wouldn't necessarily be top-of-the-leaderboard)

 

 

 

Have you ever looked through all the servers? If you had, you’d know that the first four Russian servers are eternally packed with pro battles

 

Have you ever look at them a bit more deeply? Most of them are format, many of them are non-human (999 flags or minutes for example), many of them are with drugs on and also with no SCD. Take those out and check what you are left with.

 

 

 

you can certainly create one and wait for others to drop in

 

It is a possibility, but you also know that it takes time to fill it and actually play.

 

 

 

One player will always have just one more micro-upgrade point in his favor, turning the tide of battle and rendering it "not completely fair".

 

Oh, now you talk about MUs. So you know that they exist!

Do you really compare a small percentage of increase of a MU with a 100% increase of a drug? Small differences are fair ... the huge ones give unbalance to the game. Why do you make senseless comparison?

 

 

 

There will always be someone who has better equipment, skills, and advantages than you

 

Of course, but the ranking system battles limits are just for that. To put in the same battle as similar equipments as possible, or similar range of equipments.

 

 

 

The fourth humorous hunk of hysteria propagated by nefarious Nons is the bald-faced lie that “the drugging problem” is at the forefront of everytanki’s mind

 

This depends if a "mind" exist! I didn't say that, but I hear a lot of bad feelings of people who consider drugging a problem. Many people also left the game for that.

 

 

 

The problem is that most of the replies to that topic are from the same small group of tankers. They each respond a hundred times to the topic and VOILA, it looks as if thousands of tankers are crying about supply usage.

 

Apart that noone wants to look "bigger". But there are hundreds of players who do not like this drugs system as it is. You might try to reduce the problem stating whatever you want, but the problem still exist. Maybe not only for the drugs problem, but try to notice the big tanki loss on daily players ... till devs removed the indicator!!!

And why you have to discredit posts like mine?

 

 

 

If you study the situation closely, you will realize that, since supply users are the majority of tankionline’s players, then THEY AREN’T IMBALANCING THE GAME, THE NONS ARE! So, if Tanki severely limits supply usage (as they should limit Nons’ access to the game), then Tanki itself will be imbalancing the game. That, to answer the oft-repeated question, is why Tanki hasn’t and won’t “nerf” the supplies any more: doing so would hurt the vast majority of its players.

 

This is one of the most dumb and offensive thing I heard from a Tanki staff.

1 - Prove that druggers are the majority.

2 - Are you saying that non druggers should leave the game because they create unbalance? Really?

3 - What is the difference if everyone drugs or everyone does not drug?

 

Don't you realise that there wouldn't be druggers if non druggers left? What if everyone drugs? Drugs become useless. Don't you see that?

Also druggers are pleased to use drugs because they have non druggers to easily blow up.

 

 

 

There are many factors that make Tankionline an enjoyable place to spend your time

 

But there are factors like overdrugging that make this place more frustrating than enjoyable!

 

 

 

we accept them as tankers anyway and let them rant and rave about whatever is bugging them today.

 

Aww thank you! From the height of your wisdom to us, poor humans ... we are grateful for your blessing. Should I bend on my knees for that grace of you?

 

 

 

Freedom of speech (not to be confused with “free speech”) is Tankiforum’s most basic principle

 

Is it? Ah, you mean that you have the freedom to offend us and we have the freedom to shut up ... I see

 

 

 

So, to the Nons of the forum and of the game: continue enjoying your daily screaming about the evil supplies on those dozens of topics you made. Most of Tankionline’s players don’t read them anymore anyway, and if we do, it’s just for laughs.

 

To you, sonofchrysalis3, continue insulting and offending us and giving your explanation based on nothing ... time and facts will be our best witnesses!

 

 

 

And, for who do not know me, my (and not only mine) ideas are written here:

 

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=246957&hl=

 

 

 

 

I think one day you'll realize that very few people care about your ranting.

Create a website about how supplies create an imbalance in the game why don't you.

You can talk all you want. I'm not going to sit up and TYPE 2 PAGES over something that's used as entertainment; a GAME!

Now you've really gotten on my last nerves. I tried to hold off but you've given me no other alternative. Guess what? You've been Ignored. I'm not going to let YOU or the rest of your circus try to ruin what I do with MY money and FREE TIME. Thank you, and enjoy your sentence in my personal Pit of Hatred and Disgust. You've certainly earned it.

 

 

You okay Dragon? I know...this debate annoys us all...let's just leave man it would be wise not to feed the troll(s).

 

 

 

Only your unpoliteness prevail on your lack of objectivity!

 

1 - Noone force you to read my words

2 - I am not interested about your nerves

3 - I do not tell you what to do with your money or free time ... please do the same with me and tell something if you have something to tell

4 - Feel free and welcome to ignore me

 

You first addressed your words to me and I answered to you, explaining some maths concepts that are probably not very clear to you.

 

You mentioned and accused me of "ill-conceived logics", so do not rant if I answer. Don't you want to read? Be free, don't do it ... I know it might appear kind of difficult for you!

 

 

 

Thanks for asking, really. But yes, I'm fine.

And I understand what you're telling me; that's always been at the back of my mind but I didn't want to resort to thinking that he's trying to troll us all  :lol: I've been through a lot in my 3 1/2 years of TO, but this issue has seriously pushed my patience and my stress level has shot through the roof. But my problem is where you have guys like Brubook, and other than him think they can come here and practically declare everyone who doesn't share their view(s) as a fool. Then you want to insult my intelligence? Nah, won't stand for it to be done to ME or anyone else here.

 

As much as I hate some of the things Tanki has done, and some of the people here... I still stand for this game, regardless of what anyone has to say.

 

 

 

 

You liar ... now tell me and FIND where I said it, when and where I treated someone as a fool.

 

Don't just talk nonsenses just to write something. I always respected everyone, as long as everyone respects me (and even when they don't). Is it soo difficult to understand?

 

You first accused me of "ill-conceived logics and mathematics" and I answered politely, even if it was difficult to explain such a simple thing. So, what the hell are you talking about?

 

You first offended me without explaining why. Is my maths stupid or wrong? Prove it, explain it ... don't just talk "bla bla bla" without saying anything. Base what you say with facts, in other words say something!

State facts. Right now you are trolling me just offending and criticizing me without facts. If you have something to say, just say it. It is easy to say "troll" or "ill-logic" without describing what you mean, if you mean something. Otherwise it is just a useless trolling comment against me (and not against the facts I point out) ... which is meaningless. I am not your enemy, I don't even know you and you don't know me. The only reason we are both here is to discuss about something. So do it, discuss about something!

 

I write my opinions and you write yours ... it is called "DISCUSSION". Do you have any problem with it? Do you want to state your point and everyone has to shut up? This is the wrong place for that!

 

Where did I insult you? Where did I troll you? And if I did, report me! Please! Otherwise shut up and do not say things just to open your mouth (or your fingers on the keyboard).

 

 

 

 

A very self-explanatory message!

 

You didn't mention skills, strategy, optimum weapon or paint ... just buy drugs and win! Powerful, strong and unbeatable!

 

Three ranks aheand means a M more than you. Pressing 2-3-4 gives 3xM more than what you have.

 

Every M upgrade gives abt. 25-30% increase ... everytime you press a number it gives a 100% increase!

 

... Of course you can win!

 

 

Even though it sounds strange that you have that position. You haven't the profile of a drugger!

 

 

 

I have the skills, I am getting very irritated with the M2 twins, Firebird etc. I can't pay for crystals and those premium punks are everywhere, all I am trying to do is to level the playing  field. I only have M2 Shaft, Isida, Freeze and Hornet. Everyone has a lot more M2's then I. I am howling for blood, and blood I will get, you better damn well believe it!  :angry:

 

I do use Tundra, which I mu'ed heavily enough, to survive three glancing blows from a M2 Rail while I use my M2 Hornet. The protect is around 36%, and my Dirty paint has 36% from Shaft. My M2 Freeze is Mu'ed to be strong enough to slay a fully drugged M2 Hornet (51.3 damage per tick), which always makes me gleeful. However..I have noticed recently alot more people at my rank are sporting the Isida-Viking M3 kit , and either with them drugging or not, the 31% protection from Isida on my Electra paint just isn't saving me. That is starting to tick me off greatly, so expect me to mu Electra heavily. I come up with counter-measures, and everyone else seems to come up with counter-measures for my counter-measures.

 

 

I wouldn't bother arguing with Rusty or Brubook, there's no end to it until they relieve themselves of this game, Bossman. If they say you don't have the skills, meh, just leave it. Who are they to tell YOU what you don't have. You are your own person. If you let the words and actions of others guide you, you're leading yourself to ruin. Defend yourself if you must, and move on.

 

Anyway. To deal with something like say... Twins, best thing to do is distance yourself as much as you possibly can to avoid full damage and impact. If you end up with your back against the wall, continue to save up and get a protection paint against it.

For example; I have Urban. 40% against Twins is nice and all... but you will suffer the consequences of Firebird (it only has 5% Firebird protection which is almost feel like 0% lol) severely if you don't have an Isida close by. I'm not including the factor of supplies either with that; just my own experience with this paint, with our without their aid. Also if you've got good protection against Twins ( coupled with decent HP) face him head-on; "Face-hug" is what we call it in WoT, where you are literally nose-to-nose with the enemy. A lot of times a Twins players will just keep trying to pressure you. Give him a surprise if possible: a Mine. Again, don't risk your life trying to stop an incoming opponent if you don't have the means for it. Just going to get smashed.

20% against Isida is DECENT, but something like Electra (which you have) is better. Just keep the distance as Isida has a pretty dangerous range if it catches you. But if you want to distract an Isida and force him to focus on you (Say you have a Teammate running with a flag and he's not well protected against that Vampire of Doom), forcibly block his path, allowing your teammate to escape. But really, only do this if you've got a decent HP pool and good protection against Isida or else you'll just get wrecked.

I'm not sure if you have troubles with Ricochet, but Urban only has 5% against that as well. Not very great, and you need to stay away from it and areas the player can manipulate around the map to shoot you. I can't really say much for Rico; don't see it often.

 

You seem to be handling Smoky and Rail pretty well, so I'll leave that part alone. Your judgement seems pretty reasonable on that.

I also see you've been utilizing some of the basic paints such as Dirty and Storm which isn't exactly 'bad'.

 

If you'd like some more info on what paints to use and whatnot, you can shoot me a PM. It'll be easier to catch me there as I'm usually 'AFK' in TO until I feel like I want to battle :lol:

 

 

 

Apart your caressing and taking care of each other soo gently, I never said Bossman is not skilled. I never even saw him in battle, how could I say that? Please read better! And try to understand what you read, because I said a completely different thing!

I also actually said he has not the profile of a drugger (which is a kind of a positive thing IMO).

 

Why do you insist to show that I am HELL? I don't bite!   Am I soo evil because I have a different point of you than you?

 

And I don't think this is the right place to discuss about paints, don't you agree?

 

 

Ah, by the way, generally speaking I fully agree with this (even if I am not attacking anyone): 

You are your own person. If you let the words and actions of others guide you, you're leading yourself to ruin. Defend yourself if you must, and move on.

 

 

 

 

Alright you two, I've had it with the absolute rubbish that you're spreading across the forum. Shut up, or go to a PM, but seriously, nobody really cares anymore. We all just think you're two people with two opinions that are going too far. So seriously. Stop. No-one wants your stupid flood all over the place.

 

This is the end of your argument. If you continue, I'll find a mod that'll ban you both for flooding, provocation, and anything else that applies.

Edited December 14, 2015 by personia

[personia 4,036]

Sorry about that little rant to everyone else. 

[omrot 2,327]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Alright you two, I've had it with the absolute bull**** that you're spreading across the forum. Shut up, or go to a PM, but seriously, nobody really cares anymore. We all just think you're two people with two opinions that are going too far. So seriously. Stop. No-one wants your stupid flood all over the place.

 

This is the end of your argument. If you continue, I'll find a mod that'll ban you both for flooding, provocation, and anything else that applies.

 

Joined the forums just to like this thread. By the way, I'll have a glass of cider if you don't mind :)

well... not everybody is a skilled player... guess you do need supplies  ;)

[omrot 2,327]

Joined the forums just to like this thread. By the way, I'll have a glass of cider if you don't mind :)

A drugger at this rank? Its so sad to see...makes me cry  :(

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

Sorry about that little rant to everyone else. 

You're a little late. "Argument" has been concluded, lol.

And if there was anything inappropriate in our posts to one another, they would've been identified and warnings and/or bans would've been issued.

Edited December 14, 2015 by Dragon-Judgement

[blacksouleater 190]

Good morning to you personia,

A friendly word if you would. As long as this issue lives their will be no end to the debate and discussion. It's too important to those it affects.

Also, I haven't heard anything that would fall under flooding, provocation or any such named offenses. Have a nice day.

[bossman161 276]

ok i give you an F for that font colour

if you want to improve be more artistic

Be more artistic? Last time I checked this was Tankiforums, and the use of multiple font colors can result in banning.  <_<

[bossman161 276]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Alright you two, I've had it with the absolute rubbish that you're spreading across the forum. Shut up, or go to a PM, but seriously, nobody really cares anymore. We all just think you're two people with two opinions that are going too far. So seriously. Stop. No-one wants your stupid flood all over the place.

 

This is the end of your argument. If you continue, I'll find a mod that'll ban you both for flooding, provocation, and anything else that applies.

 

Watch your language.

Hey, you think I'M the one who's trolling? I'm barely saying anything... :(

[personia 4,036]

Hey, you think I'M the one who's trolling? I'm barely saying anything... :(

Nope, just Dragon and Brubook or whatever his name is. I might've accidentally quoted something of yours in there.

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

Nope, just Dragon and Brubook or whatever his name is. I might've accidentally quoted something of yours in there.

Lel, and like I mentioned before, "argument" was concluded. Move on.

[deadmanrising 715]

If you study the situation closely, you will realize that, since supply users are the majority of tankionline’s players, thenTHEY AREN’T IMBALANCING THE GAME, THE NONS ARE! So, if Tanki severely limits supply usage as they should limit Nons’ access to the game, then Tanki itself will be imbalancing the game. That, to answer the oft-repeated question, is why Tanki hasn’t and won’t “nerf” the supplies any more: doing so would hurt the vast majority of its players.

 

 

Who ever said that those majority of tanki players have a choice before using those supplies? Most tankers have no choice of using them because of others that choose to abuse them, gameplay would be less thrilling with no supplies in the game but you cannot deny that there is a problem with them and that they need to be reworked, tanki x could address this issue but im not sure how keen the developers are on resolving this issue, they cant just choose to do nothing

[deadmanrising 715]

Firebird M2's are a pain. I have Storm paint with 21% protect against Firebird...though it always fails me.

Paints were designed to ease the damage a turret does and add flexibility, if hammer m3 did 89.68 damage per shot, it should do 71.05 damage per shot and 213.15 total damage, even if you had a hornet m4, you should still die after 4 shots, only paints with 40% and over are actually good, anything less just eases the effects

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Well, my situation now is I'm stuck at this rank...

But I'm close, once I get this pack of supplies I can power my way through, and potentially have fun while playing.

I'm in it till' the fat lady sings!