[Issue 46] The Ultimate Reporter Showdown: Why BP is Better than XP

[GoldRock 6,165]

Make sure you vote BP and Pho kk.

NOOB how to edit my post...

 

I said make sure you vote BP and Pho -.-

Edited January 8, 2016 by Phoenix-Warbird

[Raphael2 3,263]

Go Thunder

[I.Devastation 2,053]

***POLL ADDED***

 

Make sure you vote BP and Pho kk.

 

 

NOOB how to edit my post...

 

I said make sure you vote BP and Pho -.-

LOL

 

Go Thunder

Hai Raph, long time no see

[MandolinMarc 874]

I appreciate your open-mindedness, Pho and Goldie, and it seems we're getting into a nice little debate here ourselves! :P

 

Back to the topic at hand, I think I've found the main difference in our viewpoints. You write that "the duty of the newspaper is to write articles suited to our playerbase." I completely agree with that; the TO Newspaper is written by the community, for the community. But you then go on to write that you enjoy a deeply critical debate, but that you're writing not for the intellectual minority but for the majority. And here's where we split off.

 

I don't believe that writing for a group of people should involve writing down to them.

 

I spend a lot of my leisure time writing, recording, and playing music and I've found that one of the most important things for a performer is never to play down to an audience. Don't be who the audience wants you to be; be yourself. If you're deeply interested in dissonance and unresolved sad endings, don't edit yourself when you play in front of others to play music that they're more used to. What's the point of listening to a performer if he's just going to play stuff you already like? Besides, when you play music that you deeply care about, it gets transmitted through the sound, and the audience feels that the performer isn't just playing notes. He's letting something buried deep inside him come to the surface.

 

The same holds true for writing. When you write about something you love, or when you write in a way you love, the reader can tell. And it's so darn fun to read.

 

As a writer or a musician, you want to be aware of your audience, but more importantly you need to be aware of yourself.

 

Also, I've been talking with Pho and she explained to me how the article came about in a very natural, light-hearted way and that it's fully intended to be packed with humor at every turn, which I understand. So, the above isn't really a response to the article, it's a response to your response to my response.  ;)

[GoldRock 6,165]

In the context of writing for a publication, writing suitable content for the target audience is very important. But yes, I see your point - this article was by no means 'forced' out of me just to suit the playerbase, it's very much the sort of light-hearted content I enjoy writing too. In that sense, maybe you misunderstood my response. As a writer, I can write as myself in an intellectual style or in a light-hearted style - and here I am, espousing my most natural words in my light-hearted form.

 

I was wholly writing for and not down to the readers. I was not editing my style at all, I simply write in more than one natural style, very much like how a musician can express herself through more than one instrument. Again, I fear you misunderstood my previous response, I did try to make it clear I enjoy this writing style but maybe I gave off a misleading impression there. And actually, editing and tweaking my writing a touch for the benefit of my audience is something I love doing. Good musicians do it all the time. It's basically heeding feedback, where one takes into account the views of one's audience to perfect one's performance.

 

Yes I agree that you shouldn't completely change your style for the sake of an audience, but that doesn't mean you should be dogmatically unadaptable. I never meant to say or imply that the audience dictated my writing - rather, I wrote how I wanted to write, with my audience in mind... so fundamentally, we agree on this matter.

[Phoenix-Warbird 1,329]

ok can you stop plz my eyes hurt

[GoldRock 6,165]

ok can you stop plz my eyes hurt

I understand completely where you're coming from and I personally love a deeply critical, contemplating and powerful debate, but to be honest, I'm sure I would have bored Pho out of her mind eventually if I launched into it with that approach. 

see what i mean  :unsure:

[NewbieCake 3,067]

Gold's like: "There is a mathematical solution to this problem... let me go on a two page article about it"

Pho's like: "Yayayayayya whatever my combo is superior ok"

[Phoenix-Warbird 1,329]

^basically XD

but the winner is obviously me k

Edited January 9, 2016 by Phoenix-Warbird

[MandolinMarc 874]

Yes I agree that you shouldn't completely change your style for the sake of an audience, but that doesn't mean you should be dogmatically unadaptable.

Yep, I agree with you here. See what I wrote earlier:

 

As a writer or a musician, you want to be aware of your audience, but more importantly you need to be aware of yourself.

It would be ridiculous to say that an artist should completely ignore his audience and perform the same way every time, or only perform differently based on his own sentiments.

 

But (and this is a big butt)¹, an artist should not edit himself so that he performs or writes in such a way that he believes will be more pleasing to his audience. He should challenge the audience, provoke them, inspire them, and sometimes move them to place where they're not entirely comfortable being. It all depends on the atmosphere, the artist, and yes, the audience.

 

We're writing for the majority of readers here who Pho would represent in her more light-hearted viewpoint, to make the debate both substantial and easy to read

 

The reason the newspaper uses humour is because our readers enjoy it.

The above seems to me like giving the audience what they're looking for.

 

And a final thought: the audience often doesn't really know what they want. I think you're underestimating how much a reader of the TO newspaper would enjoy being pushed further in some way or another.

 

¹ notice my impeccable use of light-hearted humor  B)

[wow349 4]

I love these nice debates it entertains and XP or BP whatever personnally, i prefer wasp go it's more dynamic and i love speed just like athleticism.

Edited January 9, 2016 by wow349

[0MN1V01D 599]

XP= Just a Normal Tank to use at XP/BP or XP Battles 

BP= Faster, Takes 2 Shots like XP. But easy to flip

 

Theres alot of nubs at XP/BP Games so i won't see my self getting Flipped.

 

And If XP is better to me thats maybe because you can Unlocked Hornet M2/M3 Faster to play at XP/BP Battles.

[Phoenix-Warbird 1,329]

 

But (and this is a big butt)¹

 

¹ notice my impeccable use of light-hearted humor  B)

yea, impeccable...

[drazeruzumaki 5,021]

well BP is my bae :wub:

[momy950666 960]

BP is better :lol:

[Meliora 1,652]

In writing the article, we weren't looking to be super technical or serious or deep about the matter, we just wanted to converse as we would naturally about the issue (sorry if that's a bit too wacky, hh, we're kinda like that).

 

 

I didn't say it should be completely factual and boring, just that the humour was a bit too much. If you both are going to continue to speak in such a fashion during articles, it will quickly become tedious. Perhaps the issue is that at some points it was a bit too personal to you two...

Edited January 9, 2016 by Meliora

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

The "Era of Flipping" is over which were the Dark Ages of Wasp.

 

Hornet ruled in those days.

Now with the surplus of speed, superb braking qualities, smaller hitbox afaik,

tight turning and the ability to shoot even more versatile...

 

BP

 

p.s. and besides because Wasps rocks more (when shooting) I often get fooled

in believing that it has already been shot once, thus wasting my shot on a 

full-health Wasp...or is it just me?

Edited January 9, 2016 by Lord-of-the-Snipers

[GoldRock 6,165]

And a final thought: the audience often doesn't really know what they want. I think you're underestimating how much a reader of the TO newspaper would enjoy being pushed further in some way or another.

Note that I've been part of the newspaper for a long time, I've written articles right across the range of the 'seriousness' or 'intellectual' spectrum from complete joke pieces to detailed and complex analyses. I am not underestimating anything. I'm sure you're one of those readers who'd like being pushed, but this article was aimed at the general readership this time round, and I think it succeeded in connecting with a majority of the readership considering its reception.

 

I also like to write articles that push readers' understanding, and have done so on numerous occasions in the past. This 8000+ word one on the subject of XP battles is probably a good example.

 

I don't actually disagree with you, I just think you're nit-picking about the issue a bit... You can add me on Skype if you'd like to discuss it further, though.

 

I didn't say it should be completely factual and boring, just that the humour was a bit too much. If you both are going to continue to speak in such a fashion during articles, it will quickly become tedious. Perhaps the issue is that at some points it was a bit too personal to you two...

Thanks for your feedback!

Edited January 9, 2016 by GoldRock

[r_GaIaxy2 8,611]

Veteran reporter got destroyed by the newbie

 

Nice Phoenix ;)

[Capable 4,614]

BP is better

[MandolinMarc 874]

I don't actually disagree with you, I just think you're nit-picking about the issue a bit...

That's not the first time someone says that to me  :lol:

 

You see, the reason why I'm writing these essays that are hurting Pho's eyes isn't because I think there's something horribly wrong with this article. It's because of some underlying views of yours that contrast with mine, especially the idea that you and I are part of a small intellectual minority that enjoy being challenged, debating issues, deeper contemplation, etc. I used to share this view to some extent, and it's a pretty long story why I no longer do. So yeah, I'd be interested in chatting on Skype to continue our discussion.

 

By the way thanks for not taking anything I said too personally.

[Phoenix-Warbird 1,329]

What kind of debate would you like next? What subject? Serious or slightly more light-hearted?

[TheGoldenTanker 4,951]

What kind of debate would you like next? What subject? Serious or slightly more light-hearted?

A bit of both, but tone down on the humour by a touch or two.

[Phoenix-Warbird 1,329]

yea that's already an improvement we're planning on, anything else? Like, what vs what, something you guys would read

Edited January 9, 2016 by Phoenix-Warbird

[TheGoldenTanker 4,951]

yea that's already an improvement we're planning on, anything else? Like, what vs what, something you guys would read

How about Twins VS Vulcan?

 

- The only two turrets that have unlimited reload on Tanki...

 

Or Fire VS Freeze.

 

- Two of the most dangerous and deadly close range turrets.

 

Or Railgun VS Shaft.

 

- Two of the most dangerous and deadly long range turrets.

 

Idk.. just some suggestions really.

 

The final decisions lie in the hands of both yourself and GoldRock tbh..

Edited January 9, 2016 by Unthinkable