Remove K/D or D/L (whichever you prefer)

[P_U_N_I_S_H_E_R 732]

You mean vodka? And I agree, maybe atleast add an option to make your profile public or private

Right, Russians probably do not drink whiskey :P

[WeaponX_3000 67]

ok but what is D/L?

[P_U_N_I_S_H_E_R 732]

ok but what is D/L?

It's how many tanks you have destroyed compared to how many times you have been destroyed.

[PetertheGeniusGamer 74]

I am almost always an isida and tend to have a lower d/l than most. I don't get teased about mine very often, but it has happened to me before. I typically just suck it up when insulted and I really don't care what others think. I do like seeing stats, but get irritated when I see everyone insulting and acting like that d/l is the most important thing in the world. Really in my opinion better d/l does not show skill, but rather how many drugs and money that person has. When I see a 6 d/l I'm not impressed, but I know a lot who are and think that they are a pro. I have noticed way more druggers lately trying to improve their d/l. I have even had some that wont help with missions now because they might make their precious d/l drop 1/10th of a point or something. In short I agree with you about that stat being frustrating, but I'm unsure if removing it is really a good thing or not.

The ultimate for quote for all Isidas.

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

Kill stealing in DM is skill... The whole point of DM is kill stealing.

Ok, I agree that kill-stealing in DM is harder than it seems, but still, there are kill-stealers in CTF and TDM, which is annoying and there are drugging camping Shafts that literally do nothing but sit in a ditch or on top of a building getting free kills from poor Hornets and Wasps.

 

The main thing with D/L is the amount of pressure put on some players to maintain a good one and getting teased about having a poor D/L during battles. Making it count in parkour mode is just irrational and stupid, especially if killing in parkour mode is against the rules.

[LOLKILLERTOTHEDEATH 1,921]

Lol no. K/D or D/L is a part of numerous other games, and it is actually a very useful stat. Unless you are an isida, it tells whether you are actually being very useful. If your doing lots of damage, yes, you will have kills stolen, but you will also get lots of kills. Honestly, I have a D/L under 1, and I have never been made fun of or anything along that line. If you are made fun of, just dont pay attention because that person doesn't deserve your attention

Its' useless, the noob ultimateexterminator irritates me about it as I do about is 900 somerthing repairs used in 1 day. (Yes he is such a big fat noob!)

 

Score tells you whether you're multing or not, not dl, dl just makes you worry and get teased

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

Exactly. Very well put sir. D/L doesn't say anything whatsoever about your player. You want to see how much I'm contributing? Look at my score and you'll see. If my score is 273 and D/L 4/14 and the other guy who's teasing me is score 145 and D/L 35/6, who do you think is doing more work? The guy with score proof or the camper with the best D/L on the team?

[Mr.Ace 1,116]

agreed but don't remove it

 

cause stealing kills is one of the biggest strategy and even if u dont have a good d/l but a good score no one is gonna tease u  B) 

many times i have a d/l of 0.5 , 0.7 or 0.9 when im playing ctf and attacking when my team is loosing no one teases me why cause i have all the score i mean a lot of score and im usually first cause all my score is earned by capturing flags ;)  and even if one teases me just ignore and yeah players with bad d/l and bad score is a player with no skill i once saw a player who killed 1 person and died 75 times with a d/l of 0.01 and his score was only 45 and it was a 15 minute match so what do u say he has no score no d/l and is just ruining the game .

[Antikompanie 160]

d/l ratio depends on equip u use and the map u play

if u play on polygon u have a low d/l and if u play at monte u have high ratio but if u play on both then u  have ratio like

me

[The.Hazard 94]

Excuse me, Mr. Warrant Officer 4, I have been playing much much longer than you, and my K/D is 0.93, which is pretty good in my opinion. And you sir, are exactly the reason why this statistic should be removed. How can you say you have better K/D than me when I have killed and died WAYY more than you have, over 7x more kills than you.. -_- And maybe try using a turret that actually requires skill to use rather than plopping a brick on the spacebar and run onto the battlefield full drugs?

How do you know who has been playing longer? You don't even know me okay, anyways I agree that Clans Judge you, but if they behave like that, it shows they are not worth it? right? look at you're rank +you're awesome nickname, you can join better clans than that. .-.

[KillerGnat 3,135]

How do you know who has been playing longer? You don't even know me okay, anyways I agree that Clans Judge you, but if they behave like that, it shows they are not worth it? right? look at you're rank +you're awesome nickname, you can join better clans than that. .-.

O.O, you just pretty much admitted that this is your alt  :P.

 

Busted.

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

[...] camping Shafts that literally do nothing but sit in a ditch or on top of a building getting free kills from poor Hornets and Wasps.

I thought that's what a Snipers' job was... to camp and pick off unsuspecting enemies. Of all SORTS. Wouldn't just point the finger at the weakest of Hulls; Wasp and Hornet. I've been slapped by M3-4 Shafts in a Mammoth...

[Link_1119 183]

Is this because you have  KD below 1?

Haha kid is mad

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

replace the K/L ratio by a "points/Loss" ratio.

The number of points per loss is far more important.

 

e.g.:

- Flagrunners die often.. but a good one pays off during the battle. They have a bad K/D.. but good Point/L

- Campers can be as productive too, if they hit many targets (high point/loss). If the just sit around and care for their K/L then they are useless.. - those will have a low point/L

- ...

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

Is this because you have  KD below 1?

Haha kid is mad

I'm not mad, I am thinking for other players that I see often get teased for their D/L. Now shut up with your arrogance. Your type is not welcome here.

 

replace the K/L ratio by a "points/Loss" ratio.

The number of points per loss is far more important.

 

e.g.:

- Flagrunners die often.. but a good one pays off during the battle. They have a bad K/D.. but good Point/L

- Campers can be as productive too, if they hit many targets (high point/loss). If the just sit around and care for their K/L then they are useless.. - those will have a low point/L

- ...

This is a better solution to replace D/L.

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

I'm not mad, I am thinking for other players that I see often get teased for their D/L. Now shut up with your arrogance. Your type is not welcome here.

I actually found that some people make it a requirement for people to have a D/L over 1.00 to be accepted in their Friend List... what kinda nonsense is that?! Shouldn't matter if people have a 'High' D/L or not...so I understand your point on this particular subject.

 

This is a better solution to replace D/L. I too agree with the idea BlackWasp presented.

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

So some players don't want this removed and some players said to replace it with something else, and some said to choose to show or hide it. All are good solutions and probably the best one is to choose whether or not to show it both on your profile and on the battlefield. D/L is just something for other players to judge you by, and often times it is a misjudgment of the player and a bad one, at that. They could also just not display the number of deaths they have.

[BSG-62 512]

Privacy settings. What else do i need to say?

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

Yup. The other issue relating to this is definitely privacy. Maybe some players like to keep their garage a secret, and pull out their ultimate secret weapon when the time is right and surprise everyone. Thanks to Personal Ratings, that is no longer a viable strategy. 

"Wow this guy is noobas, lemme look at his garage in the Ratings and tease him more"

"This guy keeps sticking to one combo, let's see what other trick combos he has up his sleeve"

[FC_BayernMunchen 1,941]

This is just me but I have never seen anyone judge or be judged by their D/L. I don't judge players by their D/L; most of the time you can figure out why someone may have a certain D/L, e.g. BP and Isida users may have a lower D/L.
 
On the subject of the publicity of garages, I saw somewhere in the forum that you can get banned for using an underpowered modification in battle, e.g. I have M3s in my garage but if I chose to play a 15 min Poly CP with M0 Rico I can get banned. Making garages public allows us to check this, but I do see your point of privacy

[I3ANNED 1,693]

It's a good way to not get accepted for clans  <_<

[Supernatural 2,053]

Thanks to Tanki's more of dumb system, if you damage someone, but he/she doesn't die in 15-20 seconds, you won't get a single point. So it's possible that you are dealing lots of damage, but you are not getting a single point for that.

 

A better idea would be implementing another stat next to D/L; it should be called damage/healing dealt (DD). With these 2 stats, we could be able to judge how someone plays - fairly.

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

This is just me but I have never seen anyone judge or be judged by their D/L. I don't judge players by their D/L; most of the time you can figure out why someone may have a certain D/L, e.g. BP and Isida users may have a lower D/L.  Lol one of my 'friends' had to make sure my D/L was above 1.00 before he added me. He's a decent player; just has that ridiculous ethic. I hate to keep repeating myself about this, but I don't even look at Profiles (simply because I can't and don't want to use another PC in the house for that measly purpose). And even if I did, I'd be more concerned about my own stats. Not person B, C, or D.

 

On the subject of the publicity of garages, I saw somewhere in the forum that you can get banned for using an underpowered modification in battle, e.g. I have M3s in my garage but if I chose to play a 15 min Poly CP with M0 Rico I can get banned. Making garages public allows us to check this, but I do see your point of privacy.  Once again this proves that there need to be restrictions on the modification(s) a player can use in the battle. It would actually eliminate them having to ban people for weak equipment. But maybe that system would have some flaws... like how would they go about letting Fully-Upgraded equipment into certain games? Just as an example; my Mammoth M2 is fully-upgraded, and I want to participate in a battle where the Equipment limit is M3-M3+... could my 'M3' Mammoth get in? Idk, maybe I'm over-thinking. Again.

[Linda_Zarina 118]

Kd/Ld is important to find out if player is mult or not. Cuz like ok ok ur a xp player but your d/l wont be that bad as in then ik ur just bit better then mult but like still i would know ur not that good....

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Kd/Ld is important to find out if player is mult or not. Cuz like ok ok ur a xp player but your d/l wont be that bad as in then ik ur just bit better then mult but like still i would know ur not that good....

yes, but points/loss is a better meassure.

Especially flagrunners have low K/L, but they are vital for the team.