Bored of high rank gameplay, others too?

[stawp_thundertime 275]

A thought/rant... let me know what you think of it.

 

Recently i got involved in gene battles more deeply, it's pretty much what i was told.

Growing an account on gene is too slow for me... we are talking years to get to the top level

I have lost intrest in stawp... there isn't anything motivational, the gene rank looks boring, and good battle with friends are much rarer than on my alt.

So now im only really playing on 0dysseus, even if low ranks have trolls and whiners, the amount of balanced battles, the speed of progress, the ability to use all gear and the amount of nice people is much larger,

There is of course xp and clan battles and those few pro battles, but those seem to host so many egoistical and loudmouthed players, i don't want to play with.

 

Yeah, it keeps going, if you don't want to read all my experiences, the spoiler isn't for you.

 

 

For a nonbuyer like me the process of getting gear and trying stuff out is harder than on low ranks. The company is worse, the battles are not in good spirit, they often end too quickly or are completely one sided and are absurdly boring, for the gameplay is quite selfexplanitory. I noticed something was wrong when i started to like DMs over other gamemodes.

 

The most important aspect of being a highranker for me was the agile gear and the fast gameplay... but deeper i got in to the high ranks, the more campy the games got, fast gear? No fat gear and with alot of isidas. I can barely use hunter in the same game with strong combos.

They completely spits on the face of having a fast, fun to drive and agile hull, and force you to change to some slow and campy combo... fast gameplay is usually onesided, if 1 side gets the game rolling the other flees.

 

Do i blame something... not really, i just find the gameplay on high ranks unintresting.

Tanki stands on people buying op gear, drugs, getting the premos and overall wanting unbalanced gameplay.

On this foundation stand the people who buy to get as powerful as the 1st group. Few buy only to experience different type of gameplay, or to simply speed up their progress. When a games fundimental support is created by the longing to be better than others with little effort i guess the ranks where these buyers end up on are bound to be a place not everyone enjoys.

 

 

 

Im still having fun on 0dysseus and forums, but what can i say, i've reached the point where i don't want to play stawp anymore. I see a few others who have hit the same wall, and rant about it too,

This is not really targetting anyone/thing... i just thought i'd post it to tell about my experiences.

 

I see "solutions" for this thrown all around, but is it even a problem?

What do you think of high rank gameplay vs other ranks?

Edited March 19, 2016 by stawp_thundertime

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

^ agree with a lot of your rant.

 

High rank gameplay is very favourable towards, in your words: "fat gear and a lot of isidas"

With other words, combo 's that are very hard to kill.

As a light combo player (you can include Hunter) it takes a lot more effort to get good results,

because in some occassions it is just one shot from them and you 're finished.

 

At times this becomes quite frustrating, especially when you fight such a strong combo 

and you are clearly outperforming the other player: when at the final moment you still loose

because full health gets restored with yet another health kit.

 

I think it is a good idea to play on an alt. to get more experience and skill.

That 's what I did right from the start and it should prevent you from hitting that wall.

On your main only keep doing those Daily Missions to get crystals and supplies.

 

That 's the only solution, if you don 't want to join the "Easy Company". 

[HaloScorpionV2 438]

I alternate between xp/bp, pro, and regular battles to keep me occupied

[VaudeVille 1,428]

I alternate between xp/bp, pro, and regular battles to keep me occupied

I play xp/bp as I find it to be the only place where gameplay is balanced and there is true teamwork (ctf mode). Occasionally I do play regular battles, but that is just to release the monotony of xp/bp

[Typo 1,299]

XP/BP is not that fun as people say it is. Team work? Fair? Half the battles I play there is one guy crying noob team, etc. in chat or the enemy team starts capping even when there is only 1 guy in the opposition. Normal battles are all drug wars and as for pro battles.....well they go on for hours and not many of them exist. I sometimes play on my WO4 account and its just a much better experience.

[Spit_Fyre 334]

I agree. Getting harder day by day to find carefree battles where I can just concentrate on the game. I joined the Go-Pro-Club as insurance against "the wall". Atleast they're trying to play my idea of fair battles that are not XP/BP.

 

The best compliment I can offer one of them unstoppables is "Rank on... and quick please." Eventually though, I'll quit as I hit gen.

[Thomas11239 366]

Me2, dont play anymore since 2 weeks. Dont really miss tanki

[Amagi 1,728]

I have prepared 2 alts just for this. Once I hit gen I'll probably quit.

[rampagerhino 67]

I agree with OP. I've haven't played this game for well over a year now, and my account has been only 100 exp from ranking the entire time. The problem is it's just not fun anymore IMHO. Along with the larger amounts of big hulls, or the Isidas backing them which stalls out the gameplay, what REALLY did it for me was when i started noticing the multing getting worse, the clans/teams/bunch of friends doing take overs every other battle, the drugging heavy from start to finish 15 minute battles and the sabotage. That is what made me quit, i couldn't take it anymore. I wanted to play a cool game with some strategy and planning, not hope and pray that the other team wouldn't place a mult or saboteur on our team and a take over wouldn't happen, thieving our hard work at the last second unless we started drugging hard. 

Sorry if you've been offended by my POV and rant, but i'm kinda glad I've washed my hands with this game. Good luck to all.

-_-

[Gigalink 116]

In higher ranks, it is easier to buy large amount of drugs in bulk. Drugger matches tend to favor heavy hulls since DA with repair kit makes them almost unstoppable. Limited energy weapons suffer a lot against this. Also Nitro does a decent job of helping heavy tanks keep up. Also Vulcan...While light hulls are fun to drive for me, I use heavy since it wins more battles and gets me a good K/D ratio.

[SpeedyRailgun 183]

Amm Generalissimo parkour is bad... Battles unbalanced and bad,

Vulcan+wasp can ruin any battle by killing everyone and so on

I had to fight thunder m3+viking m2 for more than 2 minutes when i was using smoky m3+mamoth m2.

Why?

He drugged ALOT.

 

Gizzmos always plant 300-400 mines around enemy base so we are not able to move (Only mamoths with isidas are able to move)

 

So thats why gizzmos are bad players.

 

in Generalissimo parkour there ALWAYS are more kills than in generalissimo DM. Why?

Vulcan on full drugs with mamoth is killin everyone!

[stawp_thundertime 275]

Amm Generalissimo parkour is bad... Battles unbalanced and bad,

Vulcan+wasp can ruin any battle by killing everyone and so on

:lol:

Edited March 24, 2016 by stawp_thundertime

[Loackie 269]

oh wow this is actually a problem and players acknowledging that this is a problem

 

I'm waiting with doubt over whether anything will be done about this.

[Bugs.meeny 1,013]

oh wow this is actually a problem and players acknowledging that this is a problem

 

I'm waiting with doubt over whether anything will be done about this.

Nothing will be done. Nothing is ever done. They should at least make different kits, like on this acc, i see so many of the same kits on different ppl. Its boring, cause everyone has kits, so every battle gets so repetitive

[donaldo9000 1,342]

Play wasp/hornet+fire. It is fun! Plus you get lot's of crystals, golds and exp/kills(Handy when you have a super mission)

[stawp_thundertime 275]

Play wasp/hornet+fire. It is fun! Plus you get lot's of crystals, golds and exp/kills(Handy when you have a super mission)

I've done wasp/fire, it's not that fun for me beacuse i have both m1, but also because they are really hard to organize in a fun scale... i find 4v4s and 3v3s with wasp/fire rather boring.

That being said, the few fire/wasp battles that have had like 8v8 teams have been really fun. I think tanki has a problem with creating exciting gameplay in the most basic level, there alot of troubles with mults, and special things like stgs, rankups or format battles that aren't xp are hard to organize and easily ruined... even a long and balanced game can be hard to find, predictable games are everywhere.

I hope tanki finds and employs a solution to this, but i'm alright if they don't the game is still working out for my entertainment.

 

I plaid a many hour pro-battle on my alt yesturday, our team lost we had a significantly worse chemistry, and we plaid 6v8 for the first 30 minutes for some reason. It was still a gg, i also took over a silence match, which was fun.

Why would i look for a gg on my main, when my alt can access way more battles, try out alot more guns or have the company of more good friends who i couldn't see othervice, and actually use every hull and gun without getting thrown around by powerhouse combos.

This is the whole thing with my boredom, it can be boiled down simply to the amount of equal, diverse games, without mults... that actually last for the whole game, instead of being ridiculously one-sided. I just find them alot more common on lower ranks.

[fordmustang12345 3,910]

The benefits of still being semi low rank :)

[assolik 134]

The benefits of still being semi low rank :)

Your totally right. :) I think being a Warrant Officer is the best 5 ranks ever! Ive been playing Tanki for 3 years, I just keep on making a new account to stay a warrant officer! :D Its perfect here: No mults, barely any druggers or sabatuers, a wide variety of turrets and hulls, light hulls to one shot with Railgun and DD (:P), and no OP kits! You should all join us. In fact I already made a new account called LadiezMan. :P :wub: I'm going to hope I use my pro skills to wreck all the other noob corprals and catch a 50 000 crystals Gold Box tomorrow on it :D

[fordmustang12345 3,910]

Your totally right. :) I think being a Warrant Officer is the best 5 ranks ever! Ive been playing Tanki for 3 years, I just keep on making a new account to stay a warrant officer! :D Its perfect here: No mults, barely any druggers or sabatuers, a wide variety of turrets and hulls, light hulls to one shot with Railgun and DD ( :P), and no OP kits! You should all join us. In fact I already made a new account called LadiezMan. :P :wub: I'm going to hope I use my pro skills to wreck all the other noob corprals and catch a 50 000 crystals Gold Box tomorrow on it :D

about the no druggers thing. I see a heck of a lot of druggers especially twins druggers and railgun druggers

[Blackdrakon30 2,943]

I totally agree with everyone to some degree, I find that it starts to become more and more evident even in the WO ranks. Things are shifting towards using more Vikings, Dictators, and other heavier-spectrum hulls. Druggers. Druggers everywhere. Really hard to find a balanced battle still, and I have no idea when the battles will either be more balanced or be better quality.

[0dysseus 88]

I totally agree with everyone to some degree, I find that it starts to become more and more evident even in the WO ranks. Things are shifting towards using more Vikings, Dictators, and other heavier-spectrum hulls. Druggers. Druggers everywhere. Really hard to find a balanced battle still, and I have no idea when the battles will either be more balanced or be better quality.

The problem isn't really that evident on wo ranks, true wasp isn't exactly the greatest m1, but hornet and hunter are.

And wasp makes a comeback, at m2 it's a very usable hull. And allthough there are definetly less balanced battles at wo ranks than there were before, finding a playable battle for a hunter, hornet or wasp isn't nearly as hard as it is after field-marshal.

Not to even talk about mults, you will see them in almost every battle at commander... whitch is just sad. :(

 

I'm not against drugs or the fact that buyers get best gear available, i'm not even against premium, the paint is op only for few ranks, and at those ranks it's not seen commonly. I completely support benefits for the ones paying for this game, even if i'm not among them.

What i'm against are things that amount to boredom: onesidedness of a battle, lack of diversity, expesially in hulls, since heavy hulls are easy and boring to use, unintresting company that is too invested in the game to have fun, the long time it takes to make progress, the lack of major goals, the raids that simply steal your fund by mults. Overall i fail to see the same problem at my rank... not to say there are no such problems at wo, i just don't see them.

 

~stawp

[WoShiNewbie 55]

The problem isn't really that evident on wo ranks, true wasp isn't exactly the greatest m1, but hornet and hunter are.

And wasp makes a comeback, at m2 it's a very usable hull. And allthough there are definetly less balanced battles at wo ranks than there were before, finding a playable battle for a hunter, hornet or wasp isn't nearly as hard as it is after field-marshal.

Not to even talk about mults, you will see them in almost every battle at commander... whitch is just sad. :(

 

I'm not against drugs or the fact that buyers get best gear available, i'm not even against premium, the paint is op only for few ranks, and at those ranks it's not seen commonly. I completely support benefits for the ones paying for this game, even if i'm not among them.

What i'm against are things that amount to boredom: onesidedness of a battle, lack of diversity, expesially in hulls, since heavy hulls are easy and boring to use, unintresting company that is too invested in the game to have fun, the long time it takes to make progress, the lack of major goals, the raids that simply steal your fund by mults. Overall i fail to see the same problem at my rank... not to say there are no such problems at wo, i just don't see them.

 

~stawp

Mults are everywhere even at this rank. Sadly TO do not want to resolve this unfairness. Before the fight starts, you are already screwed. Since you're a high ranking player, how would you choose sides in a battle? Just curious :P Edited April 9, 2016 by WoShiNewbie

[stawp_thundertime 275]

Mults are everywhere even at this rank. Sadly TO do not want to resolve this unfairness. Before the fight starts, you are already screwed. Since you're a high ranking player, how would you choose sides in a battle? Just curious :P

I usually just joined the battles that had almost equal scores, maybe 2 or 3 flag difference depending on the time left. For cps, tdms and dms i only joined as a new round was starting, if i had missions i joined any battle.

Now that i mostly play on 0dyseus i just look for any battle with space and join it, if there are other players on my team.

And ofc, i join by requests from time to time, just to see friends. :)

Edited April 9, 2016 by stawp_thundertime

[jordan61 120]

Maybe introduce like performance points.

Ex M0 Twins = 10, M0 rico = 15 etc , same for hulls and paints.

Then a battle can be set at a specific maximum performance points and all tankers can play with different tier turret.Ex if u own twins M3, u will be able to play with twins M1 etc.

Battles will be more diverse, and gen can probably play with low rank players with same setup

[0dysseus 88]

Maybe introduce like performance points.

Ex M0 Twins = 10, M0 rico = 15 etc , same for hulls and paints.

Then a battle can be set at a specific maximum performance points and all tankers can play with different tier turret.Ex if u own twins M3, u will be able to play with twins M1 etc.

Battles will be more diverse, and gen can probably play with low rank players with same setup

That would sure fix some score gaps, but the overall outcom of the game wouldn't be affected, unless there was a new gamemode for this or something. The concept is a bit unclear to me therefore i can't really comment on it...

Edited April 17, 2016 by 0dysseus