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The fact that we know more about space than our oceans amazes me the most

I mainly believe we know more about space than the ocean because space is more interesting. Not to say that the ocean isn't, there are still at least 1,000 more species undiscovered, but yea, I chose space of water.

 

True, but the chance that a Goldbox doesn 't fall is much, much larger. Like the chance that there is life is much larger.

 

Just Google on: "there are more stars in our Universe than there are grains of sand on all the beaches on Earth", and you get a sort of feeling

how much chances for life there really are.

The fact that there are more stars than grain of sand on earth, doesn't surprise me at all, it seems perfectly practical, and I'm not saying the chance of there being life is 1/7000, I'm just giving an example for those "Tanki lovers".

 

Everything in space is awesome. I watch videos and documentaries. I especially love those found exoplanets and the search for the real "Planet X" (most earth-like planet)

We have a handful Earth-like planets already discovered, the most of which is GJ 1132b. But the weird thing is, we can discover a planet almost exactly like Earth, but that doesn't mean it has to have any sort of life on it all.

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Imagine your on a boat, in middle of the ocean, you can't see any land, all you can see, is water. No matter how far you sail out, all you'll see is water. That's exactly what a planet larger than Earth, but smaller than Uranus is, it's name is GJ-1214b, and it's entire surface is nothing but water, even its atmosphere is made up of a thick layer of steam.

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God did not start from nothing. Take that idea of time of yours and throw it out the window. Time is a notion we created, so take your head out of your temporal plain and realize there never was nothing, and always something, someONE, who created everything. I am happy to clarify if you need me to. I have the ability to write nice essays.

This time I let Neil do the talking...thanks Neil! :)

 

 

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We have a handful Earth-like planets already discovered, the most of which is GJ 1132b. But the weird thing is, we can discover a planet almost exactly like Earth, but that doesn't mean it has to have any sort of life on it all.

I know :) but there are definetely more earth-like planets out there. 

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This time I let Neil do the talking...thanks Neil! :)

 

 

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Actually no, that is more similar to Greek Mythology, I would also like to mention that OUR physics and chemistry and any other science was based on discovering more about God's creation and how it works, and exploring the detail. I accept the large majority of science, and support it, with minor exceptions (including darwinian evolution).  However, I was saying to ignore the idea of time, because that is something created, not even by us. And to disagree with Neil's statement, the more we know, the easier it is to look up to the heavens and think that someONE (God), could create such perfection in our world that we will, more likely than not, never understand.

 

Somewhat of a non sequitur, but do you know how many steps it takes for blood to clot? About 90. If any fail, you are going to bleed out forever, and die. What is the likelihood that all 90 something steps were created perfectly at the EXACT SAME TIME. Think about that for a second, okay?

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Actually no, that is more similar to Greek Mythology, I would also like to mention that OUR physics and chemistry and any other science was based on discovering more about God's creation and how it works, and exploring the detail. I accept the large majority of science, and support it, with minor exceptions (including darwinian evolution).  However, I was saying to ignore the idea of time, because that is something created, not even by us. And to disagree with Neil's statement, the more we know, the easier it is to look up to the heavens and think that someONE (God), could create such perfection in our world that we will, more likely than not, never understand.

 

Somewhat of a non sequitur, but do you know how many steps it takes for blood to clot? About 90. If any fail, you are going to bleed out forever, and die. What is the likelihood that all 90 something steps were created perfectly at the EXACT SAME TIME. Think about that for a second, okay?

quote: "I accept the large majority of science, and support it, with minor exceptions (including darwinian evolution)."

 

Throwing away the theory of evolution which is supported by the huge majority of scientists for creationism isn 't a minor exception.

It 's a huge one and it has a huge impact on what you think.

Just looking at all the evidence it 's hard to deny evolution

( I 'm not going to waste more of my time by proving it, because science already did )

If you want to you can deny evolution though, enough believers who even think that the world is only 6000 years old.

 

Intelligent design is the only one of all these "God created it" theory 's that makes some sense to me. What it does is simply

embrace popular science and say that God was the driving force behind it all.

Well, there 's no way to prove if that 's right or wrong, but still imo you don 't need one.

 

Your "blood cloth" theory is just a nice example that you don 't need a designer, same like people saying how can

there be something amazingly like an eye starting from scratch?

 

Well, if you did believe in Darwin 's evolution theory it wouldn 't be that hard to imagine.

The evolution of life had a whopping 3.5 billion years to get to it 's current state. Step by step.

Bacteria can evolve immunity in a very short timespan, unfortunately for our medicines and vaccins which

we have to alter continuously.

Multiple cell organism take a lot more time to evolve but looking at something common as dogs it can still be pretty fast.

From the original wolf we now already have a tiny Chihuahua and the huge Great Dane.

 

Something like an eye takes more time, a lot more time.

read it yourself if interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the_eye

Your blood cloth theory: http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/DI/clot/Clotting.html

 

But why even argue. You will come with your evidence and I will find mine.

Backed up by science in my case  :P  but that makes no difference.

 

You believe that every step has to be created at the exact same time.

Evolution believes that life took it step by step.

 

In the end you can never match a world view where humans are made from dirt and a man 's rib,

with a world view that goes from simple single cell organism through incountable steps to the

amazing organisms we now see today.

 

And I haven 't even started about DNA...and I 'm not going to.

 

Reply if you want, but this is my last reply to you in this kind of matter

We will never agree on these issues, let 's agree on that.

 

I let Neil have the final word: "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it."

 

 

So from now on I 'll be happy to talk Tanki with you, ok? ;)

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Fun note:

Imagine your on a boat, in middle of the ocean, you can't see any land, all you can see, is water. No matter how far you sail out, all you'll see is water. That's exactly what a planet larger than Earth, but smaller than Uranus is, it's name is GJ-1214b, and it's entire surface is nothing but water, even its atmosphere is made up of a thick layer of steam.

I have read about that planet, GJ-1214b. It was discovered in 2009 and is 40 light years away! It is a super-Earth, as they call it, meaning it is larger than Earth but is significantly smaller (in mass and radius) than the gas giants of the Solar system. Also, I found this interesting info in the Wikipedia: "In December 2013, NASA reported that clouds may have been detected in the atmosphere of GJ 1214 b."

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I mainly believe we know more about space than the ocean because space is more interesting. Not to say that the ocean isn't, there are still at least 1,000 more species undiscovered, but yea, I chose space of water.

Actually,it`s because beyond some point,I think 2 or 3 km underwater,light doesn`t reach,so it becomes much harder to light things and see

But mainly,it`s because the pressure becomes too big to handle,and if anyone goes beyond that point,he will pass out

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quote: "I accept the large majority of science, and support it, with minor exceptions (including darwinian evolution)."

 

Throwing away the theory of evolution which is supported by the huge majority of scientists for creationism isn 't a minor exception.

It 's a huge one and it has a huge impact on what you think.

Just looking at all the evidence it 's hard to deny evolution

( I 'm not going to waste more of my time by proving it, because science already did )

If you want to you can deny evolution though, enough believers who even think that the world is only 6000 years old.

 

Intelligent design is the only one of all these "God created it" theory 's that makes some sense to me. What it does is simply

embrace popular science and say that God was the driving force behind it all.

Well, there 's no way to prove if that 's right or wrong, but still imo you don 't need one.

 

Your "blood cloth" theory is just a nice example that you don 't need a designer, same like people saying how can

there be something amazingly like an eye starting from scratch?

 

Well, if you did believe in Darwin 's evolution theory it wouldn 't be that hard to imagine.

The evolution of life had a whopping 3.5 billion years to get to it 's current state. Step by step.

Bacteria can evolve immunity in a very short timespan, unfortunately for our medicines and vaccins which

we have to alter continuously.

Multiple cell organism take a lot more time to evolve but looking at something common as dogs it can still be pretty fast.

From the original wolf we now already have a tiny Chihuahua and the huge Great Dane.

 

Something like an eye takes more time, a lot more time.

read it yourself if interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_of_the_eye

Your blood cloth theory: http://www.millerandlevine.com/km/evol/DI/clot/Clotting.html

 

But why even argue. You will come with your evidence and I will find mine.

Backed up by science in my case  :P  but that makes no difference.

 

You believe that every step has to be created at the exact same time.

Evolution believes that life took it step by step.

 

In the end you can never match a world view where humans are made from dirt and a man 's rib,

with a world view that goes from simple single cell organism through incountable steps to the

amazing organisms we now see today.

 

And I haven 't even started about DNA...and I 'm not going to.

 

Reply if you want, but this is my last reply to you in this kind of matter

We will never agree on these issues, let 's agree on that.

 

I let Neil have the final word: "The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it."

 

 

So from now on I 'll be happy to talk Tanki with you, ok? ;)

Well, since it is evident that neither of us will change our own ideas and opinions, I will let the matter rest, as this not the place to have this discussion, I will let it go. Black Holes are interesting, I actually, a few months ago, posted this. Read it, I think you might enjoy it.

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 Black Holes are interesting, I actually, a few months ago, posted this. Read it, I think you might enjoy it.

Almost every Galaxy seems to have a giant Black Hole in the middle and most Galaxies are not consumed by it.

It 's more like an eddy in the water, if you don 't get to close to it your ok.

Get too close and it swallows literally everything.

 

Your own theory with a Multiverse involves the forming of a highly destructive wormhole with two massive Black holes on

each Universe that has the possibility to destroy dimensions and finally the Universes themselves.

 

Interesting, but I don 't really get the concept: how would this Black Wormhole attract more mass than let 's say

a seperate massive Black Hole, couldn 't it maybe collapse on itself because the Black Holes start consuming each other?

 

 

Talking Tanki, also in Tanki a massive Black Hole can be created:

Try to ignore the "music"... :P...the black hole itself is created at 01:35. ;)

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The legroom Everything looks so much more colourful.

 

Especially nebluae, the birthplace of stars.

What do you mean by 'The legroom'? :P

 

Black holes, I have studied a quite a lot about them!

They are really interesting, aren't they?

 

Well, since it is evident that neither of us will change our own ideas and opinions, I will let the matter rest, as this not the place to have this discussion, I will let it go. Black Holes are interesting, I actually, a few months ago, posted this. Read it, I think you might enjoy it.

Well, you can discuss that matter in a PM or in any other place if you want to :)

 

 

I read an interesting fact about Uranus planet a while ago. Uranus’ moons are named after characters created by William Shakespeare and Alaxander Pope: These include Oberon, Titania and Miranda. All are frozen worlds with dark surfaces. Some are ice and rock mixtures. The most interesting Uranian moon is Miranda; it has ice canyons, terraces, and other strange-looking surface areas.

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VY Canis Majoris (the biggest start ever found).

 

Actually, Google UY Scuti.

 


 

Absolutely everything is lovely in space. Like Yisroel does, I have an interest in the Universe as well :) I watch videos and documentaries to do with the Universe. Many theories shock me and make me wonder 'What if?'... From planets to stars, to blackholes and to Relativity, everything is interesting in Space.

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I know :) but there are definetely more earth-like planets out there. 

Of course, not even a question.

 

Actually,it`s because beyond some point,I think 2 or 3 km underwater,light doesn`t reach,so it becomes much harder to light things and see

But mainly,it`s because the pressure becomes too big to handle,and if anyone goes beyond that point,he will pass out

Isn't the pressure greater in outer space than 4 km underwater?

 

The legroom Everything looks so much more colourful.

 

Especially nebluae, the birthplace of stars.

Colours, colours, colours, colours, yet this mystical black background.

 

Black holes, I have studied a quite a lot about them!

Black holes are interesting from afar, but being close to one... not so much.

 

You could fit all planets from the distance of Earth to the moon. http://www.universetoday.com/115672/you-could-fit-all-the-planets-between-the-earth-and-the-moon/

And that's just between us and the moon, in between us and other galaxies is simply inconceivable.

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Isn't the pressure greater in outer space than 4 km underwater?

Nope, there is no pressure in space. It's a vacuum. That's why astronauts wear pressurised suits. Otherwise, their blood vessels will burst because of the pressure difference.

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Nope, there is no pressure in space. It's a vacuum. That's why astronauts wear pressurised suits. Otherwise, their blood vessels will burst because of the pressure difference.

And don't you think that's worse than passing out? If we could create something to protect us from the 0 pressure in space, why can't we create something to protect us from the high pressure deep underwater?

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And don't you think that's worse than passing out? If we could create something to protect us from the 0 pressure in space, why can't we create something to protect us from the high pressure deep underwater?

I think it 's alot harder to make a deep underwater suit because you are dealing with immense pressures.

Every ten metres the pressure increases with 1 bar.

So at the deepest places in the ocean (around 10km) you can have pressures of a whopping 1000 bar.

This will crush nearly anything.

You need a bathyscaphe to go that deep.

 

The pressure needed inside a space suit is only tiny and I think the protection against the coldness of space is,

relatively ofcourse, more important.

 

So I think a spacesuit is a lot easier to manifacture.

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I think it 's alot harder to make a deep underwater suit because you are dealing with immense pressures.

Every ten metres the pressure increases with 1 bar.

So at the deepest places in the ocean (around 10km) you can have pressures of a whopping 1000 bar.

This will crush nearly anything.

You need a bathyscaphe to go that deep.

 

The pressure needed inside a space suit is only tiny and I think the protection against the coldness of space is,

relatively ofcourse, more important.

 

So I think a spacesuit is a lot easier to manifacture.

A space suit costs around $12,000,000 to make.

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