Meditation on the Hackers and why they get away most times.

[godot11 0]

Dear developers and moderators,

 

Hackers are a serious problem in MMO games. Most of them, however, can deal with them, or at least effectively filter them out. This is, however, not seems to be true on Tanki: I have never faced any serious hacking in other MMOs so far (though I play many), but I often find players using fly- or speedhack in this game.

 

So, why is your moderator system ineffective in my opinion?

 

Let's see what I can do if I find a hacker:

• Option 1: /vote him
  
  What is the problem? if I call a moderator in a battle, he can not see any previous action of the player,  (also, he may arrive like 5 minutes later when the battle is already over). Many hackers know this, and hack smart: they fly only 1-2 times when it is really neccessary, thus mods only catch the notorius hackers, who hack for trolling, not for in-game advantage. But these troll-hackers also know this, so they play on several accounts, so banning one of them will not affect the amount of them. The really annoying hackers usually get away without punishment.
  
   
• Option 2: report him on the forum
  
  This sounds more effective, yet it is less. The reason is the neccessarity of proff, and the level of obiviousness moderators demand. Face the fact, you have to be lucky to even screenshot the hacker while hacking (and forget about invisibility hack now...), and most players (I guess) don't even know about the usage of printscreen button*. "The best proof is a video which clearly shows the violation", moderators say. Now I ask, what do you think, how many players even have a game recording software installed on their PC, and how many of them are actually records their gameplay? I would be suprised if this would be bigger than some thousandth. So, most of the players have to stick to screenshots.
  
  The problem is that the moderators require so obivious proof, that even a clear case gets rejected. This is my example (and the occassion I am writing this now):
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This is a clear evidence of flyhack (but say it if you disaggree), and I have seen the violator jumping even higher from the column, this was a clear case. I /voted him and nothing happened, despite the fact he was jumping a lot of times before and after the report. I posted this picture on the violator report section, and, to my suprise, it got rejected (http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=311233) (this case was extremely annoying, it took like 4 minutes to get that flag down from there.)

 

I think you really should make some changes in the hack-filter part of the game. The most effective would be logging the curent matches, so moderators could replay them if someone got /voted. Also, the reported cases should be investigated more carefully, and maybe shorter ban times could be used on such cases that (somewhy) not seems to be 110% obivious.

 

Thank you for reading this.

 

godot11

 

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* usage: printscreen copies the whole monitor to the clipboard, that you can paste in Paint (or any image editor) and save.

Edited March 30, 2016 by godot11

[Taco 2,820]

Game Violations Section Rules

 

• We only accept screenshots and videos made less than a month ago.
• The video’s length should be no less than 5 minutes and no more than 20.
• During the video, press TAB at least once to show the scoreboard of the battle.
• We only accept videos made in battles as evidence because videos made "outside", i.e. in the server chat, do not provide enough information on what the player was doing in the battle.
• Quality of screenshots or videos must allow moderators to easily understand nicknames and ranks of all the players.
• When recording a video of sabotage, the player has no right to violate the rules of the game themselves. All complaints of sabotage will be considered in the light of all the participants of the battle, including the creator of the video.

[godot11 0]

 

Game Violations Section Rules

 

• We only accept screenshots and videos made less than a month ago.
• The video’s length should be no less than 5 minutes and no more than 20.
• During the video, press TAB at least once to show the scoreboard of the battle.
• We only accept videos made in battles as evidence because videos made "outside", i.e. in the server chat, do not provide enough information on what the player was doing in the battle.
• Quality of screenshots or videos must allow moderators to easily understand nicknames and ranks of all the players.
• When recording a video of sabotage, the player has no right to violate the rules of the game themselves. All complaints of sabotage will be considered in the light of all the participants of the battle, including the creator of the video.

 

The name of the player is obivious, and his rank can also be seen on the game log. I do not see why they should see ALL player's rank and nick in this case, but I was happy I could make this single screenshot. Printscreen does not work for me while holding Tab.

[TheMask321 159]

Dude, the pic you have send does not mean he is hacking.

i can go there without a jump hack! it needs skills and maybe he has that.

your picture does not tell he is hacking.

 

some places do not require a pro pass ;)

Edited March 30, 2016 by TheMask321

[godot11 0]

Dude, the pic you have send does not mean he is hacking.

i can go there without a jump hack! it needs skills and maybe he has that.

your picture does not tell he is hacking.

But he was, belive me... and how the hell do you get up there :D ?

 

(And my post is not about that single case, to underline this...)

Edited March 30, 2016 by godot11

[Regency 2,099]

Hello :) When an user violates certain Game Rules multiple times or commit determinate actions which are considered as fraud by Tanki Online system, he / she may get fined. Being fined consist in the loss of crystals, garage items and experience depending on the gravity of the committed violation.

[godot11 0]

OK, you convinced me about that the picture is not a good proof  :)  (though the nickname IS seen, who else could have taken that flag?)

 

But the rest of my post still stands, without a log system (that exists in most MMO games) the violators can get away most times. (And this stands for chat too... :ph34r: )

[ScoopArtZ 44]

Soryy  we need video For this and post it in Game Violations Section Rules

 

We  no know its parkour or no 

 

Thanks .

[ScoopArtZ 44]

http://help.tankionline.com/topics/2327-how-to-record-a-video/

this is how record video for hacker and post in Game Violations Section Rules

Edited March 30, 2016 by Tareq.Jami
You can help people, but you can't decide if the topic will be closed or not.

[godot11 0]

Okey okey, I got it :lol: But the main purpose of this post is not banning this player, but to draw attention to the flaws of the violation report system.

I edit the post and replace the image with a link to it to make it less relevant :D

Edited March 30, 2016 by godot11