CLOSED — Cedric's "Virtual Office"

[Bydo 20,121]

ok i just checked and all are good .. not sure about $$ shop ... early today about 2 or more hours after change over the picture below is what the players saw on the paints ...

 

 

as requested what we saw when servers opened up

 

 

[DageLV 940]

Can shaft be used in plasma format? It shoots simmilar ammunition as ricochet but way way faster not letting it bounce off anything.

[Kurt_KurtDGreat 2,259]

Ain't readin' all that m8 :p but just stumbled on this para:

 

'Daily missions replaced daily gifts (instead of coming along with it) and monthly gifts were nerfed to the ground WITHOUT NOTICE, mission chains break only after 24 hours (meaning you have to become a social reject and play the game 24/7 in your mom's basement to keep the chain up) and the missions by default give you nowhere near as much as daily gifts gave. Daily gifts ensured that players who were stuck and didn't want to/couldn't purchase crystals could get back on track with supplies and some crystal bonuses, now that that's been removed, players will either suffer or have to pay the price... literally.'

 

It takes 30 minutes to do daily missions, I'm pretty sure if you aren't a social reject, that you should know your friends can do 30 minutes without you :lol: and daily gifts used to give you... what? 1.5k crys? Now I get 1.5k crys from one mission, not to mention the other2 :) I read a couple more of your points, and I agree, but this point... :x

Can shaft be used in plasma format? It shoots simmilar ammunition as ricochet but way way faster not letting it bounce off anything.

You would have to post it in the official topic discussion, not here. But anyway, the officials barely visit that topic anyway, let alone damn_slow (Cedric I'm still wondering what 'reshuffling' went during the whole summer. New tourney, same mistakes of the officials not caring a single bit on informing us. Can't blame me for thinking there is a huge ton of corruption in the eSports department when the supposedly eSports Admin barely posts anything on eSports, nor seems to take any interest...can you?) and back to the point, the formats are already made, I don't think they will change anything... especially for shaft which no one will use :p Edited October 26, 2016 by Kurt_KurtDGreat

[wolverine848 13,097]

Ain't readin' all that m8 :P but just stumbled on this para:

 

It takes 30 minutes to do daily missions,

 

Not always.

 

Some of those missions are on maps that tankers hardly ever play on.

Or an Isida player getting mission - 50 kills. Takes longer (after the nerf) for Isida to chase down 50 tanks than it does a rail.

 

I know you get one free switch but... sometimes you get both of the above...

[Kurt_KurtDGreat 2,259]

Not always.

 

Some of those missions are on maps that tankers hardly ever play on.

Or an Isida player getting mission - 50 kills. Takes longer (after the nerf) for Isida to chase down 50 tanks than it does a rail.

 

I know you get one free switch but... sometimes you get both of the above...

I've got isida, I know the feeling :/ however I've got BP so it ain't hard to get 50 kills in 30 mins :p tho Ye if you only have isida, I get your point :/ tho the map ain't rly a prob as if you don't find on EN servers, RU to the rescue! :)

[DageLV 940]

 I don't think they will change anything... especially for shaft which no one will use :P

Quick-scope for shaft is OP against mid hulls+light hulls.

[ToHoYoNTaDa 1,147]

He?She's a noob, everyone knows.

 

Mr. Debono

Thank you

 

Corrected.

[Bydo 20,121]

Enjoy the Boiling Hot water this time ..send again to head office ...Had enough of these ridiculous updates and add on's

 

 

please get this fixed i can't even use drugs or know who iam killing on my team

 

 

Edited October 26, 2016 by frozen_heart

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i like 2 go in t

personal office

 

porsone ofiz

[beaku 2,656]

If I share here my blatant evidences of power abuse and corruption, they will be removed immediately by Cedric or I will be banned for "slandering". Do you confirm ?

Which is why there are proper systems in place. You have to complaint about moderators to their admins. And, if you feel that's not sufficient or that admins are being biased, you go up the chain and appeal to CM. Sure, there are cases where even that won't work, you have to gather players support and male the issue big enough to be noticed at the top levels. (The creation of 'Myths and Rumours' topic wad result of One such action). The only way to change any system to either to stay in it and reach the top, or gather enough force to challenge it from outside. But, again, you cannot gather support if you appear to be consumed by the same evil you're fighting against.

I might have gone a bit off track there, but the point is that nothing is infallible. But pure emotions lead to nothing but temporary chaos. To have any effect, one must follow order and method.

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Which is why there are proper systems in place. You have to complaint about moderators to their admins. And, if you feel that's not sufficient or that admins are being biased, you go up the chain and appeal to CM. Sure, there are cases where even that won't work, you have to gather players support and male the issue big enough to be noticed at the top levels. (The creation of 'Myths and Rumours' topic wad result of One such action). The only way to change any system to either to stay in it and reach the top, or gather enough force to challenge it from outside. But, again, you cannot gather support if you appear to be consumed by the same evil you're fighting against.

I might have gone a bit off track there, but the point is that nothing is infallible. But pure emotions lead to nothing but temporary chaos. To have any effect, one must follow order and method.

it very big probem.

 

u r the corapt ?

[DageLV 940]

how long it takes for forum to update rank?

Cuz of forum i failed my mission. mission-2 days 2 ranks

Im brigadier and yestarday got colonel rank.

Forum says im colonel after 5 hours...

Thanks forum! i realy tryed to do this and you ruin everything! Damn forum...

[Bydo 20,121]

how long it takes for forum to update rank?

Cuz of forum i failed my mission. mission-2 days 2 ranks

Im brigadier and yestarday got colonel rank.

Forum says im colonel after 5 hours...

Thanks forum! i realy tryed to do this and you ruin everything! Damn forum...

it should automatically up date when you enter in the forum ,.. this might be a glitch that needs to be looked into

[beaku 2,656]

it should automatically up date when you enter in the forum ,.. this might be a glitch that needs to be looked into

It's not a glitch. It takes time even after logging in for forum to sync with the game servers. It can't sync in real time.

[theFiringHand 21,351]

Enjoy the Boiling Hot water this time ..send again to head office ...Had enough of these ridiculous updates and add on's

 

 

please get this fixed i can't even use drugs or know who iam killing on my team

 

 

 

 

 

 

Have you tried clearing your browser's cache? Looks like the issue is in the downloaded resources.

[theFiringHand 21,351]

If I share here my blatant evidences of power abuse and corruption, they will be removed immediately by Cedric or I will be banned for "slandering". Do you confirm ?

How about you go ahead and ask everyone here how many of their posts I've hidden? Go ahead, they don't bite.

 

If there's something you should know about me by now, is that I take on criticism and I respond to it. of all people should know that better than anyone, seeing as to how I took time out of my busy schedule to reply to her voluminous posts in this very thread. So please, stop with the whining about how your freedom of speech is being choked, because it's not.

[r_Mia1 8,513]

How about you go ahead and ask everyone here how many of their posts I've hidden? Go ahead, they don't bite.

 

If there's something you should know about me by now, is that I take on criticism and I respond to it. of all people should know that better than anyone, seeing as to how I took time out of my busy schedule to reply to her voluminous posts in this very thread. So please, stop with the whining about how your freedom of speech is being choked, because it's not.

Uhhh...

 

He has an issue with other administrators who indeed don't give him the freedom of speech. Who ignore the obvious "corruption" and all the chat/game violations. That's why he consider you the same as them (just my opinion).

 

2000mc --- However, I still stick to the point that complaining here is useless and waste of time. Sharing such things publicly won't solve anything, you will just get hate and you know what else... I'm out of this now. If you decide to continue fighting, then I wish you luck. But trust me, private is the best.

 

Cheers.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

So.. is it _intended_ to work like that:

 

> if a tanker complains about a moderator towards Ostrica

> and it is not fruitfull, but the tanker is sure he the mod made not only a mistake.. but acted corrupt (like he was told in chat several times within 10 minutes to kick a mult, but he didn't act)

> should the tanker then involve Cedric, with all the proove he has got (like a full battle video, containing chatlog and stats-screens)?

 

hmm.. dangerous but important answer ahead..

Edited October 27, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[Cpt.JackHammer 1,473]

Which was the first game you ever played? :/

Edited October 27, 2016 by Cpt.JackHammer

[Kurt_KurtDGreat 2,259]

30 minutes during the night is disrupting sleep (each person needs at least 6 hours of sleep all throughout the night, without disruptions, otherwise there will be problems in memorizing things and you'll just generally feel like crap. It's science my friend). To keep a chain going you HAVE TO keep it going WITHING those 24 hours (it would be much different if it were 36 or so hours instead). And it either has to be on-spot or you have to let the chain break if you don't want to play the game at night, essentially. Can you not grasp the logic here? And I already told you; daily gifts were a way for players who were screwed to get back into the game well-equipped without having to pay for some over-priced supplies, which for what they do are jack-worth and inefficient for a player (i.e. purchasing crystals and using them will result in you losing crystals as, for instance, two average supplies cost 50 crystals per, so if you use double power and double armour alone, you might kill like 5 players, which equated to approximately 40 crystals on average or even less, hence you lose 60 crystals instead of gaining anything for using them. And even if, say you gained 1 crystal in profit overall when using supplies, the rate at which you gain crystals would decrease significantly. Essentially, you gaining 51 crystals per supply you use, each supply costing 50 crystals, you would get 1 crystal back for each supply you use to kill an enemy, which would make upgrading things impossible. The only way I can think of dealing with it here is if you received much higher crystal amount for killing somebody when using supplies and/or simply reduce the supply price significantly (e.g. 5/15 crystals per)). If you're screwed and you have to play to actually get something, not only is it more time consuming (yes, my friend, 30 minutes is everything when it comes to this kind of bull) and you'll be a weakling among other powerful players who do have supplies and better upgrades just because you're screwed WHILST you're trying to finish off those missions, so you suffer whilst you play so you wouldn't suffer later, whilst you might just use up the supplies you got that day to suffer a bit less, but still suffer tomorrow, instead of cashing up on supplies and some crystals over time so you can get back into the game with a decent amount of stuff.

 

As for rewards, X1.5 means jack all. When it used to be x3, it was a bit more bearable. And with the mission chains, the default (lowest value) has been decreased significantly. So, essentially, you either become a social reject and play hardcore to a point where the game is your life or pay to win, defeating the purpose of playing the game completely, which all equates to some bull crap for the sake of profit.

Lol, I don't know about you, but if want to but you're allowed less than 30 minutes online there's something wrong In your schedule. I am quite busy too, soon heading to uni, but find frequent periods of time to log into the forum too. However saying that logging 30 mins a day means 'you have to become a social reject and play the game 24/7 in your mom's basement to keep the chain up' is totally stupid, sry.

 

Everything you said about using supplies is true, I agree that using supplies gives you a loss. But don't you also agree that poor low ranks will have to face ppl who have alts, who just logged in once a day and got tons of supplies? So they have the obvious advantage, without ranking to face ppl their rank, nor paying to keep the game servers alive! This is a MUCH better option!

 

And huh, funny, you say it's ok if mission chains were 3x the rewards, but since they are 1.5x, (even if it's the same time it takes to complete) you are suddenly a 'social reject'?

 

I'd like to know how playing for 30 minutes disturbs your sleeping pattern :) I agree with your science of 6 hours per day, but even when I'm very busy, I usually find some free time between 10:30-11pm :) go to sleep at 11pm all the way till 6am... that should leave you with an extra hour of sleep :) how does your 'busy' schedule work?

Edited October 27, 2016 by Kurt_KurtDGreat

[Bydo 20,121]

Have you tried clearing your browser's cache? Looks like the issue is in the downloaded resources.

If you read my post you would see that ...i no what to do and have done it many times over the past three and half years playing this game.. i can understand if i knew nothing about how to fix or are new to this game then you can suggest those things..seeing even Cooper recommended me to do this the last time it happened and we did everything all over again about 7 times.. now and these things still are happening leads me to one conclusion its on tanki side not my end..also talked to tech geeks in the UK about it and even showed them my pictures they also agree with me

[Kurt_KurtDGreat 2,259]

Wiki-tank... I feel sorry for you. You claim to have soooo little time, but you waste all this time to reply to me? Instead of that, you could have actually checked how daily missions work... they DON'T work like that! To keep the chain this means that you have to complete atleast one mission, between 2am UTC on one day, till 2am UTC on the other. (Server restarts) It is completely irrelevant what time you log on.

 

I am in the 4th week of chains, and I've been sleeping every day quite well :lol:

 

I don't get what's up with your weird addiction at hating drugs either. Trust me man, I paid just as much as you did: €0. I simply don't believe in paying because maybe some day I'll quit the game and all the money would have been wasted. That's just my opinion tho, I know others think differently :) But look at it this way: Yes there are 3 total druggers in an 8v8 match, but the rest (13 players) are the same as you! The buyers on your team match against the buyers on theirs, and the non buyers match the non buyers on the opposite team. Yes, most of the times it is unfair, I went through your rank as well :( but come on, if you check my profile, half the drugs I've actually used were for Winter Tandem when supplies were on. My D/L isn't the best, but it's nowhere near 0.25 ;) You just got to resist the urge to drug in battles you got no chance of winning :) Works quite well, I got 2k of each drug and 700 repairs, with no intention of using them often :) the key is to drug moderately if you are going too, but not get carried away. Heck, I did it, so can anyone else :)

Edited October 27, 2016 by Kurt_KurtDGreat

[Bydo 20,121]

now if i go to use X or Z to rotate my turrets they continue to go around till they stop .. other then that its the turrets on ricochet continues to shoot when thumb is off the space bar..

 

new key board and cache for both tanki and computer has been cleaned .. next to updates computer does it every night automatically so never have to worry about that part..

Edited October 27, 2016 by frozen_heart

[theFiringHand 21,351]

@Cedric Debono I have ~one question for you...

 

Why has the game become increasingly more and more PayToWin by nearly every update ever since Fall/Autumn of 2012 (the time when Rebalance update was introduced)? For example:

 

 

 

 

* Rebalance made the overall garage price tripple that of what it was

* Economic's Change update let developers get away with a 20% lower fund in the game till this very day

* Micro-upgrades, whilst balancing out the game very well, they increased the prices of many things by a margin; if you were to purchase micro-upgrades gradually (without purchasing any speed-ups) from, say M2 to M3, you would waste double or even more crystals than when purchasing the full M3 without any micro-upgrades purchased in-between

* Normal battles had options removed, such as autobalance, private battle option etc. and a lot moved to "Pro" battles. I don't even know why they're called "Pro" battles, since they don't have anything to do with being a professional. They're battles which enable more options and you have to pay for it, which sucks.

* Crystal boxes were removed completely instead of being made optional in the battle creation menu (although I've heard players wanted them removed, it's odd none thought of them being OPTIONAL)

* Daily missions replaced daily gifts (instead of coming along with it) and monthly gifts were nerfed to the ground WITHOUT NOTICE, mission chains break only after 24 hours (meaning you have to become a social reject and play the game 24/7 in your mom's basement to keep the chain up) and the missions by default give you nowhere near as much as daily gifts gave. Daily gifts ensured that players who were stuck and didn't want to/couldn't purchase crystals could get back on track with supplies and some crystal bonuses, now that that's been removed, players will either suffer or have to pay the price... literally.

* Modules and Paints separation update made a huge amount of paints much more expensive. Instead of balancing out the prices (getting medians), the overall garage price increased as well. The update didn't even have the audacity to refund anything to players, like Rebalance did, some people were lucky because they purchased things before, some suffered, but overall, most players suffered in the long term (those who don't have the full garage purchased).

* TankiX has its own separate micro transactions, whereby purchasing crystals in one game won't grant you crystals on an account you have on the other. All this just for better graphics and a few different mechanics, are you serious?

 

And is the game ever going to move away from becoming more like this and think of different ways to utilize micro-transactions than making prices of things as high as possible whilst keeping the battle funds low? Remember, this is the main reason for why the game gets so much hate. I know you have shareholder(s) to pay, but the game didn't have to come to this if you left the funds alone and didn't increase prices to as high as they are today. People still purchased and would still purchase crystals. Some might be inclined to keep purchasing, like myself, but we don't, because micro-transactions are exploited by the company so much.

 

This topic has already been discussed extensively in other threads.

 

Cedric

 

It is not you that people don't trust. There are very vindictive mods here who abuse their power, in spite of what Ostrica says.

 

And the mods don't listen to anyone, I guess maybe the owners, and they don't make the right changes at the right times. But the main thing is they don't listen to the players of the game who really understand the game and the situation (in other words your experienced Gizmos.)

 

Everything you say, as well meaning as you are,  just kind of means nothing because the devs will not change.

Actually the devs are working on making the game better. You need to realize that although players have a very important perspective on the game, it is also "very close to the ground". Devs are in a position to see a much more "high level" view of the game, and often the changes they implement make sense over a much longer time span than is immediately evident, and unfortunately the players are not in a "position" to make sense of those changes because their view point is very restricted. I don't say this in a condescending way, mind you. It's just the way things are.

 

So.. is it _intended_ to work like that:

 

> if a tanker complains about a moderator towards Ostrica

> and it is not fruitfull, but the tanker is sure he the mod made not only a mistake.. but acted corrupt (like he was told in chat several times within 10 minutes to kick a mult, but he didn't act)

> should the tanker then involve Cedric, with all the proove he has got (like a full battle video, containing chatlog and stats-screens)?

 

hmm.. dangerous but important answer ahead..

I trust 's judgement. She has proved to me time and time again that she knows what she's doing and that her judgement is fair. Every time a player has come to me contesting one of her decisions, it has always turned out that the player was telling me a half-truth or downright lying. The moment she breaks my trust is the moment she loses it. But that hasn't happened yet, and I doubt it will.

 

Which was the first game you ever played? :/

Probably this:

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you read my post you would see that ...i no what to do and have done it many times over the past three and half years playing this game.. i can understand if i knew nothing about how to fix or are new to this game then you can suggest those things..seeing even Cooper recommended me to do this the last time it happened and we did everything all over again about 7 times.. now and these things still are happening leads me to one conclusion its on tanki side not my end..also talked to tech geeks in the UK about it and even showed them my pictures they also agree with me

now if i go to use X or Z to rotate my turrets they continue to go around till they stop .. other then that its the turrets on ricochet continues to shoot when thumb is off the space bar..

 

new key board and cache for both tanki and computer has been cleaned .. next to updates computer does it every night automatically so never have to worry about that part..

Is this happening also in the downloadable client?

[Kurt_KurtDGreat 2,259]

It has been said by developers and within Vlogs that you need to log in within 24-hour time of finishing your last mission, so that would kind of contradict it. Why wouldn't they be specific about there and then if that is how they work?

 

I don't hate supplies. I never said I did, where did your assumption that I did come from? I am saying that in normal battles they're essential and somebody who's not thinking strategically when purchasing stuff in the game, will purchase supplies just because they can, making little to no progress playing the game. I remember I knew once someone who was like that and they were in the ranks of M3 and having just M2 Raingun and M2 Hornet as well as a low-rank protection paint. They kept purchasing and using drugs because they could. There's no mechanical restrictions, nothing to indicate the player to think strategically before purchase (in terms of developer support for it), the supplies themselves are overpriced for what they're worth in battle and it's probably the main reason people call them drugs; people keep wanting to have and use more of them.

 

I've payed a lot in this game, hundreds of pounds/dollars/euros and still I've found ways where the game had tried to either screw over me or some other players. And no, there isn't even matches; way too often I see one-sided matches, which are extremely one-sided. Happened to me many times when playing on Noise; you go for the red team, thinking that going from above will give you an advantage, but you'd be in wrong when the opponent team all use supplies whilst your team has half the players with crappy upgrades (M2 or lower in battles where Generalissimos are nearly if not the majority) and half of the team doesn't use supplies at all. It also doesn't help if the opponents invade no-mans-land with this strategy, because then they have much less supply boxes to help you out as well, whilst the opponents get most of them. If all or nearly all players could use supplies nearly all if not all the time in battles where supplies are allowed and the cool-downs weren't as restrictive (e.g. you could put on double power and double armor both at the same time), the battles would be much more competitive, less players would get screwed over and perhaps I wouldn't even care so much about the huge kick-in-the-balls difference between daily gifts and daily missions.

 

And can you please stop with these dumb smiley faces? They don't make your posts express any emotion with the amount you're overusing them and in the places you're putting them, they just make you seem like one of those staff members who use them to try and stay "cool" with the players they are responding to whilst the stuff they write would be (and still is) some lies or a praise for the game where there should be none of. I mean, use them if you really want to, but it just makes your points less relevant and seem more like goofy manipulations rather than counter-arguments. I'll provide an example of what I mean, if you really want one...

First para: because that's the way it works. Don't judge something without trying it. And yes, they were specific, you just didn't listen properly I guess :/

 

Second para: oh maybe because you wrote a huge essay about it? :lol: if people like them are addicted to drugs, then let be addicted. They'll be OP for a while, but it's their fault. Don't see how daily missions have anything to do with this.

 

Third para: in your previous msg you just said if one drugger starts drugging, it starts a chain reaction. Now you said you want more drugs by letting both DA and DP be on at the same time??

 

Fourth para: I like emojis, they make the text more readable instead of one chunk of text that makes the text hard to read. I'll stop using them if you make your points concise and short :)

 

I'd love to stay and debate with you, but this is taking too long, I gtg to do some stuff, otherwise I'll miss those 30 mins to do my missions right? :)

Edited October 27, 2016 by Kurt_KurtDGreat