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This may seem harsh but the whole tanki community is full of stupid people who hack or give out their account just so they can get fake hacks are crystals. I mean look at the image it shows so many topics about people hacking or hacked account why dont they stop posting the same topic over and over again and just get some common sense.kVlXxIU.png

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Instead of hiding threads the moderators move them to places no one will look, like this area where everyone with a mind knows won't produce anything good. They're starting to find a new way of hiding me again.

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The most intersting issue is that the topic "Pray for our world" which is defenitely full with politics what clearly agaisnt the rules is still open and living. 

 

Surprised ?  Don't be, the answer is pretty simple, Moderators. A player who is a moderator created this topic. If it were created by other player it wouldn't be here already. 

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Flood, damn flood, i would love to become a moderator to close these types of topic instantly.

Sorry fahad, that's not what moderation is about :)

 

The most intersting issue is that the topic "Pray for our world" which is defenitely full with politics what clearly agaisnt the rules is still open and living.

Surprised ? Don't be, the answer is pretty simple, Moderators. A player who is a moderator created this topic. If it were created by other player it wouldn't be here already.

Hi del, that thread is a necessity, and the topic of that thread will inevitably attract politically related comments since the events being discussed in the thread are undeniably attached to some political matters and quite sensitive as well. So it is inevitable that several members of the forum will dab into the political talks in there, and that's where moderation becomes relevant.

 

Instead of just closing a topic where a big chunk of our community wants to talk, we monitor and moderate the talk, and clean up any slippage that may occur. If you see some of those "slippage" then please report them and we'll tend to them.

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Sorry fahad, that's not what moderation is about :)

 

Hi del, that thread is a necessity, and the topic of that thread will inevitably attract politically related comments since the events being discussed in the thread are undeniably attached to some political matters and quite sensitive as well. So it is inevitable that several members of the forum will dab into the political talks in there, and that's where moderation becomes relevant.

 

Instead of just closing a topic where a big chunk of our community wants to talk, we monitor and moderate the talk, and clean up any slippage that may occur. If you see some of those "slippage" then please report them and we'll tend to them.

Well Hi, 

 

Umm, then why the moderators don't delete posts who says " Pray for Gaza" which are clearly conects to the Israelian - Plaestinain confilct ? 

Moreover, The sentence "Pray for X country" is including politics, because countries are poilitics. 

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The moderators know how to kill a topic - move it where no on will see it. It's the next best thing to deleting the topic itself.

All I want at this point is a safe way for players to give their opinion on the moderation team, because you can't criticize them without your voice being taken away.

Instead of hiding threads the moderators move them to places no one will look, like this area where everyone with a mind knows won't produce anything good. They're starting to find a new way of hiding me again.

Topic was moved from Off-Topic Discussion to Problems and Solutions section.  Blame them bad moderators who made sure your topic got seen by doing so!

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Well Hi, 

Umm, then why the moderators don't delete posts who says " Pray for Gaza" which are clearly conects to the Israelian - Plaestinain confilct ? 

Moreover, The sentence "Pray for X country" is including politics, because countries are poilitics. 

Praying for this country or that region doesn't necessarily mean "pray that this party or that party get their political agenda seen through"

 

You're unable to differentiate between political matters and when there's people's life and that of their beloved one at stake.  There's a humanitarian crisis, not just a political or ideological fight.  Accept that truth and you'll see many are here mourning beloved ones and not here to push political propagandas.

 

Edit : countries are also made up of people just like you and me

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Praying for this country or that region doesn't necessarily mean "pray that this party or that party get their political agenda seen through"

 

You're unable to differentiate between political matters and when there's people's life and that of their beloved one at stake.  There's a humanitarian crisis, not just a political or ideological fight.  Accept that truth and you'll see many are here mourning beloved ones and not here to push political propagandas.

 

Edit : countries are also made up of people just like you and me

Well, A Humanitarian Crisis is your own political opinion. You choose one side and definer it as a victim. The word victim which is your own Opinion. The United Nations which deicdes about "Humanitarian Crisis" is a political organization. 

 

For example: People X definer Group A as a victim while People Y don't.   

An other example right from the Middle East Conflict: "Pray for Gaza or Free Gaza" is acctually choosing a side in this conflict what clearly mean a political opinion. 

Edited by delnina2

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One of the common things I see everywhere is that simple "spam" topics with no topic to discuss at all are not removed, but left alone to die like a post should. It should only be considered spam if there are multiple useless topics by the same person at once with a similar/identical message ruining the experience for others. A pointless topic doesn't harm anyone now, does it?

 

We have different rules and different audience and different purpose.  Each forum on the internet has their own very different sets of rules suiting their needs.  We have ours.  The current rule related to spam isn't too bad around here, we'll keep it.


 

And I wonder why...

The great posters I remember never announced their departure in a topic, but by private messages (cheap_plastic_flower, Contaminated, etc.) so reasons can be mixed. But the time they left was usually after getting their posts removed/locked that would have been perfectly fine when they had originally joined. Here we have the case of cheap_plastic_flower in late 2013 where everyone including some team members were having fun with a joke, everyone knew wasn't real, but for some reason it isn't allowed? He's done worse things in the past but those topics were never locked/moderated. A few days after that he went offline for about 2 years 1/2 before coming back to make 1 post... and has since left again probably seeing nothing has changed.

 

Wasn't here at the time, can't comment on those


Players usually safely express their opinion by pressing the "Like This" button as you can't get banned for agreeing with someone's opinion. The fear of the moderation team has stopped creative/funny/original content as it has appeared as unwelcome for a now long while in the community's eyes. I don't know how you can eliminate that fear as I am only one person of this community who wants change, but many others do too and they're too afraid to say anything, (that is, unless you want fear).

 

I got no idea what happened in the summer of 2013, but since then this place has been run like Russia, and we know how no one likes that. Just straight up ask the community what they think could be improved on, there is always room for improvement if you view this place as perfect already.

 

Yet the very presence of this topic and all your claims contradict all you're saying.  If what you said were true, none of your topics or posts would be visible.  

 

People are free to express their dissatisfaction and disagreements about the game and its management.  However not everyone can do so in a respectful way.  And that's where the problem resides.  If they decide to be a little more courteous, read the rules and criticize within the bounds of the Game rules and the EULA then no one will remove their posts and they will have nothing to fear.

^ My answers in white text.

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Well, A Humanitarian Crisis is your own political opinion. You choose one side and definer it as a victim. The word victim which is your own Opinion. The United Nations which deicdes about "Humanitarian Crisis" is a political organization. 

 

For example: People X definer Group A as a victim while People Y don't.   

An other example right from the Middle East Conflict: "Pray for Gaza or Free Gaza" is acctually choosing a side in this conflict what clearly mean a political opinion. 

Sorry mate but around here we don't care what the UN does or decide or whether its a political organization or not.  We have our own rules and we have a community of people from everywhere, from every sides and specially a lot from those who classify themselves as belonging to "none of those sides"

 

The region you used for illustration above is whether you like it or not a piece of land on that planet where people are suffering.  When someone posts something like "pray for this region" he means pray for the region and all the people and nature being affected in that region.  S/he is not asking anyone to "take a side" in that region !  

 

Learn to differentiate!

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Sorry mate but around here we don't care what the UN does or decide or whether its a political organization or not.  We have our own rules and we have a community of people from everywhere, from every sides and specially a lot from those who classify themselves as belonging to "none of those sides"

 

The region you used for illustration above is whether you like it or not a piece of land on that planet where people are suffering.  When someone posts something like "pray for this region" he means pray for the region and all the people and nature being affected in that region.  S/he is not asking anyone to "take a side" in that region !  

 

Learn to differentiate!

If you don't care from then UN the why did you describe "Humanitation Crisis" ? 

Well then you might say that the posts about Donald Trump in "Pray for our world topic" aren't political ? 

 

And still you haven't answered on my question. "Pray for Gaza" is defenitely choosing a side in the conflict. Then why are the posts ]still there. 

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I've not seen posts of prays for a presidential candidate. Please link me to those in my pm.
As for the 2nd paragraph, you really need to take some steps back, relax, open your mind to criticism, then re read my previous post again.

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I've not seen posts of prays for a presidential candidate.  Please link me to those in my pm.  

As for the 2nd paragraph, you really need to take some steps back, relax, open your mind to criticism, then re read my previous post again.

I will PM for you these posts.

I also think that ciriticism about countries is a political opinion.

Edit: The posts about the presidential candidates has gone thanks to the moderators, which is great. 

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The proper EN social community really takes place on Skype now, and has been that way for a long time.

Agreed -- I think it's a bit regrettable that this is the case, since Skype is more closed-off by nature than the Forum. It can be hard for new players to navigate their way through the community when it's all hidden from them.

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But yea, I agree with you, topic moderation has gotten WAY too strict; I mean, it's just a game; as long as the topic doesn't break any rules, why should the mods close them? But they close them, saying that "this topic is uselesss, or please read the rules, or please discuss this here, and all sorts of other stuff...... -_-

Remember, there are people that play this game access this forum that aren't as mature as you may be... They have to keep it tight for that reason

 

As long as the topic doesn't break any rules, why should the mods close them? See below

 

This topic is useless - What is the point in our forum being spammed with useless topics? 

Please read the rules - You probably should read the rules before you post something

Please discuss this here - Prevents duplicate topics. Means the forum is organised better and makes it easier to find what you are looking for.

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I wanted a change :D

yeah, change ain't happening. Not with bad grammar and claims with no basis. Admins aren't drunk, and most mods are mature, and usually adults.

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