Tanki Thinking Challenge

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

 

 

Unique is not equal to rare

 

If unique module was supposed to be acquired by players somehow just like rare ones are; it wouldn't be unique anymore.

then & only then would it come under rare one's

 

Need I say more !!

 

 

Hmmm, id say that unique module is pretty hard to find.

[Ninja 10,468]

If you go to the form and it says you've already submitted, I guess you've submitted.

It says I've submitted so I gotta hope for the best.

[omrot 2,327]

i get that .. but before last week i had it everyday at 2 then last week 3 and now back to 2 so go figure .. someone is doing a magic trick on me lol

We had it at 2 every day (for you). Daylight savings time changed for some of us so the quiz was move to 3. Your country changed it's timezone after last quiz so it went back to 2 

[ToiletPaperRoll 1,318]

also row 11 aint correct its 4 letters not 6

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

also row 11 aint correct its 4 letters not 6

He already said something about that, it doesnt count anymore.

[GeeVuh 1,647]

Crap! I forgot today was Tuesday!  :o  I gotta just hope I get in the 40... BTW, I'm only submitting NotANewb and Adversary this time.  :ph34r:

[DESTROYER_13 1,019]

 

you gave out answer in question

Not just for that question, either. But what's the problem?  ;)

[Ninja 10,468]

Crap! I forgot today was Tuesday! :o I gotta just hope I get in the 40... BTW, I'm only submitting NotANewb and Adversary this time. :ph34r:

No need to worry, check out the new winners system on the first page.

[omrot 2,327]

i get that .. but before last week i had it everyday at 2 then last week 3 and now back to 2 so go figure .. someone is doing a magic trick on me lol

The quiz was at 2pm Canada time. Daylight savings time changed most of our timezones (but not Canada's) on October 31st so the quiz changed to 3pm for you. Canada is one of the countries that had it's DST change later (at 6th November to be exact) which means the time changed back for you to 2pm

Edited November 8, 2016 by omrot

[GeeVuh 1,647]

No need to worry, check out the new winners system on the first page.

 

Crap! I forgot today was Tuesday!  :o  I gotta just hope I get in the 40... BTW, I'm only submitting NotANewb and Adversary this time.  :ph34r:

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

DUDE

 

you will never find that sidlob's unique module in the game

 

just read my posts at least few times before writing something

 

That unique module is hard to find and pretty valuable. It IS rare, youve just proven yourself wrong in that post. *slow clap*

[GeeVuh 1,647]

Um. Issho, the OP has a typo: It says "Lots of crystals are awating you."

[Anonono 1,233]

I think top 50 is fair, I mean if its your timezone thats affecting it thats not our fault, im sure u have advantages in other stuff too like other tanki contests (ones that go on facebook eg, minehunt,last man standing)

Haha nope, they are roughly the same time as this also.

 

Try living as an Australian for once and you would know.

[DESTROYER_13 1,019]

Um. Issho, the OP has a typo: It says "Lots of crystals are awating you."

confurmt

Edited November 8, 2016 by DESTROYER_13

[rocketmonkey2015 61]

Where?

first page

[NewbieCake 3,067]

Maybe you can grizzly to watch him go through the paint — JOKE  :lol:

:P Someone got the joke.

[missingknight 408]

 

Row 4 is not wrong, it is just worded in a tricky way. I admit that it was a bit too hard and that it could possibly be mistaken, but you need to think about two things:

1. you must follow the letters' indication
2. you must fill the crossword in a way that all the answers match with each other

 

"mostly for melee combat" literally means that said module can be used in other contexts, but "for melee combat" literally means that said module has to be used in that context only.

As some of you asked me, the complete definition is "for melee combat, as well as short-medium range" — this, in English, would be a definition + a condition. "This module is for melee combat only, but you may use it in other contexts".

Meanwhile, the other definition "mostly for melee combat" would become "This module can be used in any context, but mostly for melee combat".

 

The stronger definition, the one that can be associated with "only for melee combat" is the first definition — "for melee combat, as well as short-medium range". It expresses a definitive field of usage, but allows exceptions. The other definition DOES NOT define a definitive field of usage, but only an open decision.

 

The meaning of 'only' is about it being one thing and nothing else.

 

I do not think that the description of 'for melee, as well as short-medium range' can be definitively interpreted as just meaning 'only for melee' with the 'as well as short-medium range' as a 'condition'. I think it could validly be read as meaning that it is for both ranges, therefore making that module type not 'only' for melee.

 

I did note that the other descrition used 'mostly', so was not 'only' melee either, but to me, this suggests more of an emphasis upon 'melee', and hence I think of it as a more suitable answer.

 

You could say that you should look at the letters and grid, but there having been a mistake on one of the other questions (which you've already admitted to) means that there is a loss of credibility. How can we have the same expectation that the clues and grid match up, when there has already been a mistake.

 

I do not mind if something is hard. However, there is a distinction between something that is 'hard', and something that is ambiguous. If two meanings can be construed, then I do not view that as a fair question/clue.

 

And after last week's ambiguity between 'rare' and 'special' modules, which meant that I got last week's wrong too, I am disappinted by the TTC.

Edited November 8, 2016 by missingknight

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

Last post from me about this

 

don't annoy me

 

 

Unique itself means one of a kind.

 

While rare does not mean that.

 

If the unique module was a rare one it could have been acquired by players/winners of different tournaments just like the other rare modules.

 

But since it is NOT a RARE one & IS one of a kind that is what makes it UNIQUE.

 

Got it. )

Why dont you stop giving people false information? Rare means its very hard to find, because there is only one it would be hard to find. All unique things are rare but not all rare things are unique, and i dont think you understand that.

[DESTROYER_13 1,019]

don't annoy me

 

 

 

 

 

 

Rare Modules

 

The "Rare Modules" are special, incredibly hard-to-obtain modules that protect from every turret and mines. These modules are given only to specific tankers, as follow:

 

In addition to these "Rare Modules", there is an unique module,

 

It is written out there for you. They said that the unique module was included in the Rare Modules category. Whether or not that is true, it clearly says that, there.

 

P.S: Taking your word for it, that that post was your last, regarding this.

Edited November 8, 2016 by DESTROYER_13

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

lol

 

have a look at this link -> https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130408093257AAzfO9Q

 

or this -> http://wikidiff.com/unique/rare (look for 2nd adjective definition for rare)

First of all, yahoo answers is not a reliable source for anything. 

 

Second of all, unique and rare are 2 different things. I know this, but its the same thing as "all dogs are animals but not all animals are dogs".

Edited November 8, 2016 by railguniz4noobz

[Guest]

Guys, drop it, thanks :)

If you need to argue, do it in private.

 

 

 

 

 

Well, the fact you just realized that makes me happy :D

I was not so glad to be forced to add a question which contained the answer to itself, but sometimes the best place to hide something is exactly in from of someone's face!

 

 

Um. Issho, the OP has a typo: It says "Lots of crystals are awating you."

Fixed, thanks :)

 

 

Everyone, please understand this — TTCs are voluntarily made, they exist only thanks to a group of volunteers making them up. All the complaints that are being dropped lately look like you are all giving TTCs as a granted event with granted prizes, but this is not true.

If, for some reasons, we may be unable to proceed with this project, it will simply close, nothing granted.

 

As I already said earlier, there are some ambiguos questions and situations, but nothing is perfect and smooth. In those case where ambiguity was too evident or a mistake was done by us, I've always found walkarounds and compensations (re-scheduling a TTC, higher prizes, more winners, etc...), so I've never left any of you disappointed by a little mishap, I'd bet you could confirm.

 

Please stop considering certain stuff as granted and expecting them to be as perfect as you want them — mistakes and ambiguos situations happens, but you have to adapt to them and think outside the box to outsmart them.

[GeeVuh 1,647]

^
Damn right, take this as free crystals from the developers. It ain't always gonna happen, but when it does, you should be happy about it.

Edited November 8, 2016 by GeeVuh

[DESTROYER_13 1,019]

I confirm the that leader is as fair as a free fire fighter fighting injustice at a fairly fast rate. 

[missingknight 408]

 

Guys, drop it, thanks :)

If you need to argue, do it in private.

 

 

Well, the fact you just realized that makes me happy :D

I was not so glad to be forced to add a question which contained the answer to itself, but sometimes the best place to hide something is exactly in from of someone's face!

 

 

Fixed, thanks :)

 

 

Everyone, please understand this — TTCs are voluntarily made, they exist only thanks to a group of volunteers making them up. All the complaints that are being dropped lately look like you are all giving TTCs as a granted event with granted prizes, but this is not true.

If, for some reasons, we may be unable to proceed with this project, it will simply close, nothing granted.

 

As I already said earlier, there are some ambiguos questions and situations, but nothing is perfect and smooth. In those case where ambiguity was too evident or a mistake was done by us, I've always found walkarounds and compensations (re-scheduling a TTC, higher prizes, more winners, etc...), so I've never left any of you disappointed by a little mishap, I'd bet you could confirm.

 

Please stop considering certain stuff as granted and expecting them to be as perfect as you want them — mistakes and ambiguos situations happens, but you have to adapt to them and think outside the box to outsmart them.

 

I will not go on about my point after this. I just want to add:

I definitely appreciate the work you and other volunteers are doing running the TTC. I think you guys do a great job. So thank you.

 

If the TTC was delayed or didn't happen one week, I wouldn't complain, as I know you guys are volunteers. And I don't expect things to be perfect.

And if there was a hard/'trick' question, then I won't complain, as if you 'fall for the trick'/couldn't work out the answer, then you have 'lost' fairly.

However, I made my comment just because I personally think that that particular question/clue was ambiguous, and I don't think ambiguous things are fair. You can't 'outsmart' something ambiguous, as if it is ambiguous it means that there are multiple answers which could be viewed as equally potentially correct. You could pick a 'right' answer, and yet get it 'wrong', just based on the subjective viewpoint of the question setter, when objectively, there could be multiple 'right' answers.

[GeeVuh 1,647]

I will not go on about my point after this. I just want to add:

I definitely appreciate the work you and other volunteers are doing running the TTC. I think you guys do a great job. So thank you.

 

If the TTC was delayed or didn't happen one week, I wouldn't complain, as I know you guys are volunteers. And I don't expect things to be perfect.

And if there was a hard/'trick' question, then I won't complain, as if you 'fall for the trick'/couldn't work out the answer, then you have 'lost' fairly.

However, I made my comment just because I personally think that that particular question/clue was ambiguous, and I don't think ambiguous things are fair. You can't 'outsmart' something ambiguous, as if it is ambiguous it means that there are multiple answers which could be viewed as equally potentially correct. You could pick a 'right' answer, and yet get it 'wrong', just based on the subjective viewpoint of the question setter, when objectively, there could be multiple 'right' answers.

I mean, naturally, I assume that the quiz questions are correct. If they aren't, Issho will disregard them if we answered them, so it doesn't matter. Just do what the wiki says.