Episode 93 of the V-LOG is here

[Cor7y 13,862]

So should I buy Rock in sales or no?

[Kurt_KurtDGreat 2,259]

what i don't get is why are u telling us about this future plan of yours when your still working out the cliches and issues why not wait till closer to the launch date.. this is why you guys made mistakes with informing us about X tanki when it was still working out the kinks .. and were still waiting .. so why give us this .. when you know players are going to not like it...

I disagree :/ In my opinion Better if they tell early. Means they're actually thinking about updating the game. I mean, look at the eSports section, no update whatsoever has come there, for 5 months and that's why people think they've done nothing this whole time... :p

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

So players spent days upon days upgrading their paints, but you suggest that after this update they get all the crystals handed back to them and the MU progress basically reset to the beginning? Something is telling me that you'd get a lot of hate if you were a developer.  :lol:

Let me apologise to you if I sounded arrogant. It wasn't my intention. I felt you didn't take everything I wrote into consideration and cherry-picked a line I wrote, misrepresenting me in the process, just to wind me up. I never suggested they get all their crystals back. I said it was the ethical thing to do, I never said it was the thing to do.  I then went on to provide an alternative, fair suggestion which you overlooked.

 

I am one of those players that took days, weeks, months, years even, upgrading paints to their maximum. I spent millions of crystals doing it. Then we get this new plan to change all that and we're told we're not losing anything.

 

Well please forgive me for losing my temper. Anyone who spends over $1000 in this game should deserve to have their voices heard and not to be mocked.

 

I look forward to your reply.

[Bydo 20,120]

I disagree :/ In my opinion Better if they tell early. Means they're actually thinking about updating the game. I mean, look at the eSports section, no update whatsoever has come there, for 5 months and that's why people think they've done nothing this whole time... :P

no that section will be coming back to life he mentioned it in a past post or v-log i can't remember.. i can this .. he pm me about two weeks ago about ideas i send to him...

 

Cedric Debono

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Sent 17 May 2016 - 14:52

bydolord, on 16 May 2016 - 23:19, said:

 

Thanks for this.

 

I'm actually already working on bringing a number of those ideas to life.

 

About Facebook, we're working on creating a series of (different) riddles on Twitter, and I'm planning on having them on the same day, but 12hrs earlier to facilitate people (like yourself) in different timezones.

 

For the paper, I've got a rather elaborate plan that I can't reveal right now. But to some extent it incorporates part of the interviews idea you're proposing.

 

About the Wiki thing, I admit I had never thought about it. But it makes sense to find a way to promote the wiki and help site among newbie players to make them aware of them.

 

Thanks  :)

[Kurt_KurtDGreat 2,259]

Well... I did send a PM to some eSports officials and they said they can't reveal anything but there might be an announcement "very soon".... It's been a month since one of them said that :v so I kinda lost hope XD

 

Anyway we're kinda getting off topic here... :p

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

If I buy Graffiti after the update, will I still be able to equip it with protections of other paints?

Asking this because there was a mention of paints bought before update in the V-LOG...

Not according to the clarified explanation we were given.

If you buy Graffiti before this update, it will be converted to a Trio Legacy module and a paint. You can then proceed to upgrade it to it's current limits, which just happens to be 50, 50, 50 anyway so this would be a good choice to buy as regular Trio Modules can be maxed to 50 each too.

 

Once you have bought it, you cannot change any of it's 3 slots. They're fixed. If I've understood it correctly, you can then use Green paint with this module should you so wish.

 

 

So should I buy Rock in sales or no?

With regard to Rock, the same applies. Once converted to a Quad Legacy module, it can be micro upgraded to 50, 50, 39, 15 and no more.

[Bydo 20,120]

Not according to the clarified explanation we were given.

If you buy Graffiti before this update, it will be converted to a Trio Legacy module and a paint. You can then proceed to upgrade it to it's current limits, which just happens to be 50, 50, 50 anyway so this would be a good choice to buy as regular Trio Modules can be maxed to 50 each too.

 

Once you have bought it, you cannot change any of it's 3 slots. They're fixed. If I've understood it correctly, you can then use Green paint with this module should you so wish.

 

 

With regard to Rock, the same applies. Once converted to a Quad Legacy module, it can be micro upgraded to 50, 50, 39, 15 and no more.

ok seeing we have 3 or 4 system thing

 

in lower ranks you can buy paint that is a 4 tear system what about that .. how would those fit in.. im curious about it now more on how the smaller ranks with 4 tear and higher ranks with 4 would it be the same protection or what..

 

kurtdgreat  send pm to u instead of chatting here / off topic

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

 

ok seeing we have 3 or 4 system thing

 

in lower ranks you can buy paint that is a 4 tear system what about that .. how would those fit in.. im curious about it now more on how the smaller ranks with 4 tear and higher ranks with 4 would it be the same protection or what..

 

Not sure I understood you properly.

Under this proposal, players will not be able to buy a 4 way module, only 1, 2 or 3 way.  But the devs have to cater for the existing paints players own which can be 1, 2, 3 or 4 protections - so if you currently have any 4 way paints, they can be kept but with restrictions.

 

The plan is to introduce new modules with modifications we're familiar with, ie, m0 - m3. How that would work is anybodies guess.

One such guess is that m0 would be 10%, m1 = 20%, m2 = 30%, m3 = 40%. Each modification can be upgraded an extra 10%. Let me stress this is just a guess and I haven't given it any real thought.

[Bydo 20,120]

take

Swash

Isida —8%
Firebird —15%
Twins —10%
Smoky —5%

 

so what your thinking it could be is say....

 

 

10 % across in a 4 tear protection..

 

instead of it separated into smaller sections ..

 

if i understand you ..and then with mico upgrades would be added like 20% fully

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

so what your thinking it could be is say....

10 % across in a 4 tear protection..

instead of it separated into smaller sections ..

if i understand you ..and then with mico upgrades would be added like 20% fully

No. Swash is Swash. It will change to a legacy module that is identical to it's current form in every way. It will have the same resistances, same percentages etc. You just can't micro upgrade it past its current limits although I'm hoping that will change.

 

With regard to my guess, it was just a guess. Those details are still on the drawing board.

Edited May 30, 2016 by AbsoluteZero

[Bydo 20,120]

ok so the paint we have now will be legendary  paints as i see them or old timers paints

 

then there will be a new paint set

 

there will be 4 sections  each with its own level of protection  for say..

 

first group would be 20% protections

 

second will be 35%

 

third would be   40%

 

fourth   would be 50%

 

if i see this correctly .. maybe not those numbers but in sections and each sections would be for certain ranks to get them at

 

then to mico upgrade it would cost more..

 

and what paints we have in our garages now will not change but as soon as this new systems starts we wont be able to buy any of the old paints .. or would it be like premium pass that if you want it you could buy it at a special price ..for the new paints.. and in time the old ones will stop being sold..

 

i hope this / you can understand

Edited May 30, 2016 by frozen_heart

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

ok so the paint we have now will be legendary  paints as i see them or old timers paints

then there will be a new paint set

there will be 4 sections  each with its own level of protection  for say..

first group would be 20% protections

second will be 35%

third would be   40%

fourth   would be 50%

if i see this correctly .. maybe not those numbers but in sections and each sections would be for certain ranks to get them at

then to mico upgrade it would cost more..

Yes.

 

as this new systems starts we wont be able to buy any of the old paints ..

You'll be able to buy the colours still but the not paints as we know them today.

[Bydo 20,120]

Yes.

 

You'll be able to buy the colours still but the not paints as we know them today.

ok so they would be in different sections so say Picasso would be at a lower rank system then ( for example ) and say ibris would be gizmo ranks then .. just playing with this .. and not using these paints in particular just what you decide

[Bydo 20,120]

Well if you look at this topic, infact the forum you will see that AbsoluteZero adds lots to each topic he posts in, Providing Excellent ideas, Suggestions & facts if needed. 

 

Take this topic for example, AbsoluteZero has explained this new paint system very well more than your devs did in there vlog and even more than you have done in your single post. I also note no other Mod/Staff has come onto the topic to explain the new upcoming feature to any of us. ( there just as baffled as the rest of us im sure)

 

Such arrogance on your part to even say that to a Player who is doing a much better job than any staff i have seen. yes thats right hes just a player, he dont get any crystals for all the help he provides.

 

 

maybe you should think before you move those fingers towards your keyboard and post nonsense

 

 

Good Day  ^_^

said it like a trouper.. i fully agree i find most of the time we the players can sort these  issues out in a calmer and more knowledgeable way for all to understand better,,

 

 

 

now with that said.. back to the paints,,

 

so what i see is ..

 

first group of say seven paints to choose from with protection groups for each one say rail / ricochet / firebird / Vulcan / Insida / freeze and we get to choose ..only say in this section 1 protections with a % amount

 

the second would be the same but with  2  protections and any paint in a group of selected paints that we like ( the paint would have 0 protection but it looks good for our tanks )

 

third and four the same but larger protection packages..

 

i hope this is correct / in a way

 

ok for some who need to see it and this is only my version of what i think it would look like .. but not these paints... i was fooling around sorry if it looks like garbage ..

 

Edited May 31, 2016 by frozen_heart

[Royalworld 1,269]

This module update looks like another attempt to extract money from players' pocket just like microupgrades.

And maybe the devs dont remember paints' protections but we players do. And even if we don't, we check the garage to know about the protection so we know what we're facing. And it takes less than a minute to check anyways.

[michealedwards 0]

I have a life hack so whean you and your dreams are in a 1 v 1 hornet's and rail guns you can cap the flag by dodging their shots

[sooooo_9000 8]

I have a life hack so whean you and your dreams are in a 1 v 1 hornet's and rail guns you can cap the flag by dodging their shots

everyone knows this thing

[sre123 595]

Cedric Sir Can I submit Question of the week both in Youtube and Fb and If I win will i get 40k?(20k+20k)?

[LadyYuna 122]

Feedback, yes. Speculation and fear-mongering, no.

Well, feedback is based on informations. Providing informations prevents speculations.

 

There are not enough informations, too many questions you won't answer. It's human to speculate ;)

 

Special thanks to @AbsoluteZero who's in a talk with everyone in here :wub:

[Kurt_KurtDGreat 2,259]

Trying to keep up with the topic and trying to understand the paint update like :lol:

 

[LinuxH4cker 236]

 

 

First, just let the update flow - make tankers angry and tell them to discuss. WELL, OFC THEY ARE. They are discussing politely; discussing like they should be. Then try to calm them down? Really? 

 

Then you say: 'Saying things like "DIS UPDATE GONNA KILL TANKI AND THE PLENIT WILL EXPLODE" doesn't help.'

 

:mellow:

 

THEN, you say: 'Feedback, yes. Speculation and fear-mongering, no. Please.'

 

:mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:  :mellow:

 

What is going on? Everyone IS. IS. IS. IS giving their feedback. Whaaa-?

 

Criticism doesn't help? Is that what are you saying? When you release an update that is like this one, ofc people are gonna go mad. You think money grows on trees? Everyone just plucks them off and spends every penny they have in this game? You can't just make an update like this and expect people to go: 'Wow, what a wonderful update!' except for the staff ofc, and by staff, they are forced to appreciate the updates even if they don't like it, because if they don't, people will think 'what kind of a game is this? It's staff is against it'. <-- This is how it works in Tanki Online eh? This is not how a game works. Who am I kidding? Who is @AbsoluteZero kidding? This guy spends hours trying to develop a solution and no one replies to it let alone give it importance?!

 

Wait, stop. First, you make players spend 100s of dollars into this game, which they should spend (not saying its not worth it. Tanki Online is worth every penny), then you release an update which makes all that money go in to the dump truck? THEN, you make another update - this Paints update - to make players spend crystals and dollars in this game, AGAIN?

 

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

 

Conclusion: Every paragraph of the ^ post I quoted, is contradicting one another.

 

To be honest:

 

 

 

So, probably you will get modules with same protection as those paints, so don't search only for bad points.

And NO. Not all the staff says, 'ow dis is da best Update Ever'.

For example, wiki editor actually ASKED ME what is the point of this update,

and explained him, what I heard from V-LOG and also 's answer.

If you ask me all that annoyance about this UPDATE is because WE ARE USED to paints and to their looks.

But the thing is that developers want that we could combine ANY protection with ANY look.

 

Understand?

And you won't lose NOTHING,

since the paint protections will be changed into modules and the visible part (paints without protections)

will stay in your garage.

 

And you can also ask for additional explanation and not argue here how bad this update is and try to look at it from the bright side. :)

 

 

My only concern is that every tanker will now equip Zeus or Prodigi (an example) and some paints may EXTINCT!

Edited May 31, 2016 by LinuxH4cker

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

So, probably you will get modules with same protection as those paints, so don't search only for bad points.

 

...

 

And you won't lose NOTHING,

since the paint protections will be changed into modules and the visible part (paints without protections)

will stay in your garage.

I currently have Tiger paint. I'm micro upgrading this at great cost to make it the best it can be. That's to say 50% against hammer, 50% against smoky and 28% against Railgun. This is as high as this paint goes. I'm upgrading it so to have the best protection available to me for when I face these 3 turrets.

 

You say I won't lose anything? You're wrong. What I am losing is the best protection against these 3 turrets because, with this update, players can buy a Trio Module and equip it with Hammer, Smoky and Rail and proceed to upgrade it to 50, 50 & 50, making it far better than mine.  Am I really going to have to go and spend another million crystals just so I can get 22% more on Railgun resistance, because as it stands, when these paints are converted to modules, we are not allowed to micro upgrade them beyond what is allowed right now.

 

So how is that fair? Do you think it is right that I have to settle for 2nd best, especially after I spent so long and so much trying to acquire the best?

 

"Understand?"

 

And what about all those free to play players who have slowly but surely spent every available crystal micro upgrading their favourite paints? Try telling them to look on the bright side and see what responses you get?

 

 

My only concern is that every tanker will now equip Zeus or Prodigi (an example) and some paints may EXTINCT!

I don't understand your concern.

 

The reason why there is not a lot of players complaining about this is due to the complicated and elaborate nature of the system itself. Players don't understand it and can't complain about it as a result.

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

Hmm...

 

Is Africa + Clay good with this new paint update? :mellow:

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Hmm...

 

Is Africa + Clay good with this new paint update? :mellow:

The fact is we simply don't know. We don't have a price structure to compare the new with the old. For all we know, you could buy a trio identical to Clay and it would be half the price of the current paint!

 

The good thing about Clay is that it doesn't matter when you buy it, before or after this update, it still goes to 50 for each of its resistances. About Africa, it's hard to give an informative answer with the limited information we have received. Maybe a staff member might have more information and would be willing to help you!

[Bydo 20,120]

Hmm...

 

Is Africa + Clay good with this new paint update? :mellow:

don't use the paint display i made .. it was only a sample and iam not a mod / dev or any staff of tanki iam only a player who has been here close to three years.. nothing else

 

and to purchase paint now you might want to check out the wiki paint site