Rip Harambe

[Fresh 2,390]

• Harambe was fatally shot after a four-year-old boy crawled past the railing and fell 15ft into the gorilla exhibit moat, authorities said 
• But witnesses said the gorilla was 'acting protectively' and zoo director confirmed the boy was not under attack
• Video shows boy reaching for Harambe's arm, and they briefly held hands 
• Many have blamed the boy's parents for 17-year-old Harambe's death
• They released a statement on Sunday saying their boy is doing 'just fine'   
• Zoo director said Harambe was 'disoriented' and tranquilizer would have taken too long with the possibility of agitating the animal even more
• Director said: 'Looking back we would make the same decision'
• He insisted barriers were secure, asking: 'Do you know any four-year-olds? They can climb over anything'

Edited June 1, 2016 by Fresh

[beaku 2,656]

Reminds me of baby's day out... :(

[Bugs.meeny 1,013]

The fact that people are getting angry about them killing that gorilla is ridiculous. If its dragging the kid around, its better to not take the chance, and just kill the thing.  

[beaku 2,656]

It wasn't posing as a threat to the kid.

[III_Dope_III 319]

The fact that people are getting angry about them killing that gorilla is ridiculous. If its dragging the kid around, its better to not take the chance, and just kill the thing.  

Gorillas are like human beings, it didnt nothing wrong to the child they were playing

[Bugs.meeny 1,013]

Gorillas are like human beings, it didnt nothing wrong to the child they were playing

The kid had a concussion, and was being dragged around by the gorilla. He was screaming! they were not playing!

[Fresh 2,390]

Guys don't get out of the topic !

Also, don't post your personal judgement because it leads to more discussions and fight between players.

Its almost as though i want war on the forum xD

[beaku 2,656]

The kid had a concussion, and was being dragged around by the gorilla. He was screaming! they were not playing!

Without even being sure of that... Let's just kill the gorilla. That makes sense, right? Cause our egos dictate that it's okay to captivate another living being who's incapable of protesting against it... And when it appears to be a nuisance, kill it.

[Bugs.meeny 1,013]

Without even being sure of that... Let's just kill the gorilla. That makes sense, right? Cause our egos dictate that it's okay to captivate another living being who's incapable of protesting against it... And when it appears to be a nuisance, kill it.

So what you're saying is, you would have tranquilized it, taking the risk that when you did, the gorilla wouldn't react violently and hurt or kill the kid? 

Idk . . . I guess I just put human life over animal life.

[F1ASC0 1,705]

They shot him because supposedly the gorilla was agitated and was dragging the boy around and banging his head on the concrete.

[Fresh 2,390]

So what you're saying is, you would have tranquilized it, taking the risk that when you did, the gorilla wouldn't react violently and hurt or kill the kid? 

Idk . . . I guess I just put human life over animal life.

The animal was clearly playing with it holding hands

[Fresh 2,390]

They shot him because supposedly the gorilla was agitated and was dragging the boy around and banging his head on the concrete.

Nope, there was no aggression, the humans saw it as aggression

[Fresh 2,390]

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[Bydo 20,139]

ok so yes 4 years old climb all the time and nothing can stop them there wild and like to be free.. now saying that as a mom i can't fathom why this child was not watch closely or was in a stroller .. this is part to do with the parent not keeping a closer eye on this child ..

 

now as per the zoo i do not see why they could not used tranquilizer dart instead of a bullet ..this i do not agree with how they handled this issue

 

with the world on wild life protection this is one less  animal we have in the world.. its just like the other year when a dentist shot a lion in the wild and this was the oldest one .. just cause he paid $55,000.00 to kill it .. this was totally unfair ..

[F1ASC0 1,705]

 

now as per the zoo i do not see why they could not used tranquilizer dart instead of a bullet ..this i do not agree with how they handled this issue

 

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According to what I heard, the tranquilizer would have taken a couple of minutes to kick in and by then the gorilla would've been agitated and could've hurt the child.

[beaku 2,656]

So what you're saying is, you would have tranquilized it, taking the risk that when you did, the gorilla wouldn't react violently and hurt or kill the kid?

Idk . . . I guess I just put human life over animal life.

That is where I disagree with you. In this circumstance, I would, in fact put the gorilla's life above the 'alleged' danger to the kid's life. I can instantly think of at least five-six ways this situation could have been handled without harming either parties.

That being said, even though 'prevention is better than cure' is cool and everything, I seriously can't digest the fact that Zoos aren't prepared for this kind of situation. It's like the lack of life boats on Titanic. I mean, come on man! Either put a 10 ft barrier around the enclosure or else have tranquilisers ready 24×7! If any of you are from India, you'd remember a recent case in New Delhi where a man was mauled to death by a white tiger. That was just sad and revealed the utter carelessness and lack of planning on the authorities' part. And let me remind you once again that the Tiger was agitated because the onlookers started pelting it with stones in hopes of shooing it away. Yes, I do blame the humans here too. I really think that the crowd entering the zoo should have a mandatory orientation lecture on what 'NOT TO DO'!

 

These are wild animals being kept against their will in an enclosure. Seriously, it's like turning a prison into a tourist attraction. Does that sound nice to you? Would you want to enjoy your evening with your family visiting a prison? When you think about it this way, it's almost sadistic. I've always hated Zoos. Even when I was a kid. Of course, I didn't have this much philosophy then, but something inside me just broke everytime I saw those animals.

My point is, if you're keeping a living, breathing being in a locked room, against their own will; a being who is just as much entitled to a natural habitat as a human; you are committing a crime against Nature. Did we evolve to Co exist? Or did we evolve to dominate? Keep all species in a natural habitat, and we are the weakest species on this planet. The only thing we have is a big brain which we use for selfish, self destructive purposes instead of finding ways to coexist.

Coming back to the original point, it was utterly wrong to kill the gorilla. If this kind of thing is okay, I believe it will be okay for me to kill a person who I think is going to harm my little baby brother. And don't give me the 'humans are different' stuff.... Humans are, in fact, more dangerous than these animals. The greatest acts of empathy I've seen or heard in my life have been performed by these so called wild animals. If you think it's right to kill them, then my friend, the one who is wild here is you.

[asifmehmood 1,576]

Real unfair decision if we take a look on the video we can see that he was helping that kid and then they killed the one who helped -_-. Shame on their parents who said it was fine , they are so mean.

[Bydo 20,139]

According to what I heard, the tranquilizer would have taken a couple of minutes to kick in and by then the gorilla would've been agitated and could've hurt the child.

not.. if the zoo keeper was there he could have distracted the gorilla to another part of the cage or even gave food to get him away .. there is so many ideas that could have prevented this but they did not think  they reacted first .. now there having to cover up and justify there reasons why they did what they did..

Edited June 2, 2016 by frozen_heart

[Lou21589 669]

Lemme say it.... 1) It is parents fault ofc. They shud be heavily fined and even the zoo shud be fined for not having safe enclosure.

But what could any1 have done after the kid had " already" fallen... I don't know whether harambe was playing or not but yeah the kid could have died. At that situation nothing could have done ... Could they have left the kid to die ? Or the gorilla ? Well lemme say the truth anyway round the media would have blammed the zoo anyway... So they decided to kill the gorilla.. they had no other choice ! So yeah it was the situation which made them do the action !

 

R.I.P Harambe

 

P.S let's not discuss who is wrong.. IT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING ! Let's just express our sincere condolence.

Edited June 2, 2016 by Lou21589

[Aslan 671]

Parents are so careless nowadays..

I feel lucky..

My condolence for Harambe.

[beaku 2,656]

OK, one more rant: STOP BLAMING THE PARENTS! You can't put the whole load on them! Have you ever actually tried taking care of a kid? I have taken care of two sisters and a brother right from when they were infants to 5-6 years of age. I can personally guarantee you that it's nowhere near easy! Even if you keep drinking red bulls all day, they'll still manage to slip under your nose and do something mischievous. They are kids! That's their job! No one can be blamed here! If any of you can come forward and claim that you have never been a victim of carelessness or negligence, you are welcome to blame the parents. You can't blame a human for having a human weakness.

Also, all of you here (like every other human in history) are judging actions by consequence which is utterly wrong! Just imagine if this kid had wandered off and found a bomb and saved hundreds of life. Would these parents then receive praise for their negligence? How in the world can you blame someone just because they made a mistake every human makes for the only reason that their mistake led to far more serious consequences? For this very reason I refuse to blame the parents alone. The guilt of this action has to be borne by the shoulders of entire humankind and not just the scapegoats. (Cause we need to blame someone and the parents were the most obvious choice, right? Oh nice.. Those are the criminals... Now our egos are satisfied and we can go on like nothing ever happened).

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

Definitely the parents fault, the way I see it. And it caused the life of an animal. :(

 

And that's why in Asia, we beat naughty kids :)

 

They'll either learn to behave or face the rod.

Edited June 2, 2016 by Phoenix.Rising

[beaku 2,656]

Definitely the parents fault, the way I see it. And it caused the life of an animal. :(

 

And that's why in Asia, we beat naughty kids :)

 

They'll either learn to behave or face the rod.

Well, I was beaten up thousands of times as a kid and although that does mean that I don't dare to do anything wrong, it definitely doesn't mean I didn't wander off and do mischievous stuff as a kid... :p

[r_R.I.P.A0 441]

R.I.P Harambe.

Thank you for everything you gave for us.

[F1ASC0 1,705]

not.. if the zoo keeper was there he could have distracted the gorilla to another part of the cage or even gave food to get him away .. there is so many ideas that could have prevented this but they did not think  they reacted first .. now there having to cover up and justify there reasons why they did what they did..

Ya, true.