Is skill needed for this game?

[basenji7 1,199]

You: 1.20 K/D

Me: 2.83 K/D

Ok I didn't read what you said because I'm too lazy (I'll read it later)

But K/D actually doesn't matter - Shafters (and other campers) will have a much higher K/D. It doesn't mean they are more skilled or more important to the team than, say, Isidas. They hide and kill people from far away, while Isidas use their charge to heal as well as attack - both are essential to the success (or defeat, I suppose) of the team. 

 

Also I think PRO passes should be made cheaper for lower ranks and drugs maybe nerfed?

 

And  :o wow you've used almost as many drugs as our dear H-E-A-D-H-U-N-T-E-R!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow such a bigggggg druggerrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!

ok jk but drugging actually requires some skill, at least for people who have a limited amount of supplies to use. 

I learned this the hard way when I entered the test server and realized that unfortunately I have no idea how to drug properly  :ph34r:

 

I apologize if I actually repeated what you already said 

[dataDyne 24]

Not sure this guy knows how forums work.

 

Oh well, kids new to the internet that only know about Facebook and Twitter.

[VivaPalestina 168]

lol guys stop quoting each other

 

Stop the Flood. 

[basenji7 1,199]

Not sure this guy knows how forums work.

 

Oh well, kids new to the internet that only know about Facebook and Twitter.

and Tumblr and Instagram  ;)

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Kids nowadays

... pffff.

 

I accidently quoted...m sun was on screen (usinh phone.... too busy to reply.... bye)

[SUP3R_ST4R 1,205]

Other than *XP BP* Drug battles buyer wins -.-

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

they add nothing to the game but force others to drug too.

There's no skill or interesting tactics involved.

how would you know that they add nothing?

 

You dont, therefore you have no authority to declare such things

 

 

Boxes are less important in drug wars than in no-drug matches.

Again.... How would you know? You dont, therefore you have no authority to declare

 

 

 

Thousands of drugs to use = spam 1,2,3,4

Limited drugs = using your brain

With the level of responces I see from you... brain usage isnt there.....

In addition, you might not think while drugging but it doesnt mean that - smarter and more skilled players dont.

 

 

I've seen it happen at Colonel~Brigadier rank.

A Raiden kit with double power and doesn't turn turret.

 

As i said... only 1/100 players are like that.

 

For everyone.

Even druggers?

 

 

This is not an argument.

And why not?

 

 

I've already explained why PRO Pass doesn't work.

No you didnt. You just told me anti druggers are too lazy.

 

 

And I find it funny you call me a noob when your K/D is lower than mine.

You can buy drugs but you can't buy skills. :)

The top statement shows how noob you are.

idk about D/L.. I care about team work and winning for my team.

 

 

I said bad game design, not a bad game.

I know English is not your first language, but atleast try.

 

Many good games still have issues that can be improved.

We all want a game we love to be better, to iron out bugs, glitches and unbalanced things.

truth is english is my first language.... but im math and science.... and a hard working person. I dont choise to focus too much on writing

Well... the drug issue in this game is an integral part.... dont like it? Leave to "bake a cake"

 

 

It's not so much about price as it is about availability.

Its pretty much available for 162 cry a day. Its antidrugger laziness that they dont use it.

 

 

No-drug standard battles are tucked away and hidden in a dumb system (PRO pass) that most people

1. don't know/care about

2. don't want to spend 5000 crystals for (It's cheap for me, I'm talking about most people in the game)

3. even if they like and buy it, will most likely play Parkour and XP/BP.

 

detirmining that the need for it is very low.

You blatantly said "dont care about"

 

 

"Do you want a balanced and fair game? Pay for it!" -Tanki Online

Source please

 

 

If you think this is a good system, you don't know anything.

where are your recomending people to say that you know something.

 

 

I like having a good game. I can easily win with drugs, but that's not fun.

Duell!!! Duel!!!! Duel!!!

 

 

 

Drugging and spawnkilling the enemy team is akin to beating a baby.

You hold beating a baby in low priorities apparently

 

 

You: 1.20 K/D

Me: 2.83 K/D

 

Pretty sure I'm succesfull and way better than you are.

 

Duel duel duel duel!!!!

 

 

Most players hate drugs.

Nerfing drugs makes the players happy.

have all the "most players" like ur post to show you have authority to say som

 

So in your mind; balance and happy players = bad?

No

 

You are afraid that without drugs it will be revealed how bad you are at this game. :D

welcome to Rob... that is me... rob is me. Player in AM series, weekend cups, daily cups, hardstyle, ratings cup,

Ive played in those.

I know very well what no drug battles are like - more than you do anyway.

daily cups was my clans best tournament.... and i play none drug whenever I join friends who do none drug sometimes.

Edited June 15, 2016 by A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N

[beaku 2,656]

What economy?

This is not a MMORPG.

Are you kidding me?! The whole economy of crystal exchange! Buying equipment, earning crystals, it's all economy!

[basenji7 1,199]

Are you kidding me?! The whole economy of crystal exchange! Buying equipment, earning crystals, it's all economy!

Well it's not actually a real economy, per se, since players can't interact with each other and the prices are set by the devs rather than demand and supply

It's a monopoly? Kinda? 

But it is actually a MMORPG ok

[Benefactor 6,888]

DD is no good if you cannot even aim your turret in the same area code as your target. Nitro is no good if you keep running into obstacles. You need at least some skill in order to take advantage of these temporary enhancements. And as you go higher up the ladder, the timing of these temporary enhancements is cruicial.

[DragonOfStorms 2,706]

 

If people want to drug, explain the vast majority of people who say "noob drugger" or "blue/red druggers" in chat?

Clearly most people don't like drugging. They want skills to decide the outcome of a game, not who has more money in real life.

OK, I just wanted to point out that despite your other points, some of which I agree with and some of which I don't, this one is flawed. Here's an example of something that I actually experienced.

 

A Hornet-Railgun is running around with full supplies active, and I come up behind him and start blasting away. He uses a repair kit, spins around, and fires. Well, I have no desire to let him steal our flag, so I use a repair kit, preventing him from finishing me off with his second shot. Then I destroy him. He proceeds to call me a 'noob drugger', and curse me out. Now, I realize that not all situations are like that, but this isn't the first time I've had it happen. The hypocrisy is astounding.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

They are so blind and arrogant to see that.

 

Lets see if he takes my duel....

[beaku 2,656]

Well it's not actually a real economy, per se, since players can't interact with each other and the prices are set by the devs rather than demand and supply

It's a monopoly? Kinda?

But it is actually a MMORPG ok

Name it whatever you like. The point is, that it's delicately balanced. Everything is calculated and set in such a way that Tanki maintains a regular income without forcing players to shell out money. Supplies, which has been an integral part of the game for a long time now, are obviously at the core of this balance. Take that out and you'll be affecting the income of players, battle fund growth, and ultimately the income of the company. That's what I mean when I say that the economy will crash!

[beaku 2,656]

No need for skill! Just beg to your parents for their Credit Cards and you're all set! ~ Some noob non-drugger who thinks that druggers are buyers and have no skill.

Actually, even though the stereotype of druggers being noob buyers might not be true for all, it is true for many. I've seen many M3 rank players entering battles at my ranks or lower, using drugs and kits in hopes of grabbing the major portion of the fund. Now, in some situations, me or some of my teammates have answered by dragging back leading the so called, higher tanked player, to start cursing and in some situations, run away... XD. Just saying, many peeps out there expect to dominate and when faced with resistance, they are utterly speechless. Edited June 16, 2016 by beaku

[Reckoning 178]

They are so blind and arrogant to see that.

 

Lets see if he takes my duel....

Good way to settle score with kids?

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Actually, even though the stereotype of druggers being noob buyers might not be true for all, it is true for many. I've seen many M3 rank players entering battles at my ranks or lower, using drugs and kits in hopes of grabbing the major portion of the fund. Now, in some situations, me or some of my teammates have answered by dragging back leading the so called, higher tanked player, to start cursing and in some situations, run away... XD. Just saying, many peeps out there expect to dominate and when faced with resistance, they are utterly speechless.

if generalissimos join then its not "them joining low rank battles to dominate"

I dont look what are rank limits there are when I join. Drugger and buyer are not connected.... half the druggers I know are none buyers. About noob druggers giving us bad names. All because druggers have noobs doesnt mean druggers are noobs. There are none drugging noobs out there..... lots of them.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

This is a broad question. Some parts of the game can be skilless, but if the game required no skill you could give any old Joe a GM account and he could compete with everyone.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Hey datadyne!!!

You compared k/D....

 

So let me compare your primary weapon to my 8th in line (smoky)

I get 600 xp more per hour...

 

While my primary compared to your equivalent (isida) is the same amount of xp per hour. And thats your 3rd primary...

 

Both of our second in primary is railgun

... I get 700 xp more per hour.

 

Your 4th primary is my 10th... you have 160 xp per hout more...

 

My 3rd is in m1 status for you so it doesnt count

...

 

My fourth is

230xp per hour less than you.

freeze

 

I get 400 xp more per hour in ctf

Say you wha?????

Edited June 16, 2016 by A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

This is what I say, druggers aren't noobs and drugging does require skill.

...

 

I mean yeah, drugging requires you to wait until boxes light up and then press the corresponding button. I guess that qualifies as a skill...?

 

When most people say "druggers are noobs", it's because it is impossible to tell how good a drugger is at the game because their tanks are constantly powered up, and most non-druggers feel that if this wasn't the case, they'd be terrible (or at most average).

 

Answer me this -- if you find it difficult or impossible to play the game without constantly spamming powerups... how good really are you at the game? At most, you're just average. At least, you're

 

Edited June 17, 2016 by AlphaNinjaGirl

[basenji7 1,199]

...

 

I mean yeah, drugging requires you to wait until boxes light up and then press the corresponding button. I guess that qualifies as a skill...?

 

When most people say "druggers are noobs", it's because it is impossible to tell how good a drugger is at the game because their tanks are constantly powered up, and most non-druggers feel that if this wasn't the case, they'd be terrible (or at most average).

 

Answer me this -- if you find it difficult or impossible to play the game without constantly spamming powerups... how good really are you at the game? At most, you're just average. At least, you're

 

WOW YOU CALL OUT OTHER PEOPLE FOR USING OBNOXIOUS MEMES THEN DO THE SAME WOWWW

 

Ok so druggers are much more OP, but it also does require at least some skill to make the most out of your drugs 

And it really isn't true that druggers can't play well without drugs

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

WOW YOU CALL OUT OTHER PEOPLE FOR USING OBNOXIOUS MEMES THEN DO THE SAME WOWWW

It's called dramatic irony... jeez.

 

Ok so druggers are much more OP, but it also does require at least some skill to make the most out of your drugs 

The druggers who drug at appropriate times (i.e. in moderation) are alright, I guess. I can understand if you need a DA when you charge the flag. Fine.

 

The druggers who constantly, CONSTANTLY spam the buttons are the ones I have beef with. Mashing 1234 over and over and over shouldn't make you an unstoppable beast in any game, so why is it in effect here?

 

And it really isn't true that druggers can't play well without drugs

Really? Would any druggers care to stop drugging to back up those claims?

 

I thought not...

[BigTankMike 32]

YES SKILL IS HIGHLY NEEDED FOR THIS GAME

 

although the alternative is drugging, but that's kind of expensive

[BigTankMike 32]

...

 

I mean yeah, drugging requires you to wait until boxes light up and then press the corresponding button. I guess that qualifies as a skill...?

 

When most people say "druggers are noobs", it's because it is impossible to tell how good a drugger is at the game because their tanks are constantly powered up, and most non-druggers feel that if this wasn't the case, they'd be terrible (or at most average).

 

Answer me this -- if you find it difficult or impossible to play the game without constantly spamming powerups... how good really are you at the game? At most, you're just average. At least, you're

 

Nobody want's your memes. It does take skill to drug, let's say there is a gold box, you need to first put on your double armor. When you go under the gold in the final moments and people are shooting you as heck, you put on that repair kit when you have only a little health, which takes timing (I actually failed at that today :P). Now let's say you are capturing the flag on a large map, you put on your armor while your being shot at with the flag. Now your waiting to put on your nitro. But wait, there's a nitro in an allyway to the left. You take the detour and your able to have both double armor and nitro without having to use a nitro on your little thing-a-ma-bob. You safely make it to your flag. Those are just some of the situations in which it is skillful to drug. Drugging all the time isn't good but when you drug just in certain critical situations, it's a good idea. Besides, if you drug all the time, the battle fund you get isn't going to pay for all the drugs you used. 

 

Bottom line, "drug" in moderation.

 

Now your going to yell at me that you were just "dramatizing" or whatever.

:P

Edited June 18, 2016 by CooperO
Keep it friendly. Everyone has the right to speak.

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

Nobody want's your memes. It does take skill to drug, let's say there is a gold box, you need to first put on your double armor. When you go under the gold in the final moments and people are shooting you as heck, you put on that repair kit when you have only a little health, which takes timing (I actually failed at that today). Now let's say you are capturing the flag on a large map, you put on your armor while your being shot at with the flag. Now your waiting to put on your nitro. But wait, there's a nitro in an allyway to the left. You take the detour and your able to have both double armor and nitro without having to use a nitro on your little thing-a-ma-bob. You safely make it to your flag. Those are just some of the situations in which it is skillful to drug. Drugging all the time isn't good but when you drug just in certain critical situations, it's a good idea. Besides, if you drug all the time, the battle fund you get isn't going to pay for all the drugs you used. 

 

Bottom line, "drug" in moderation.

 

Now your going to yell at me that you were just "dramatizing" or whatever.

I don't even think you read my second post. Here's a snippet of it for you to recap:

 

The druggers who drug at appropriate times (i.e. in moderation) are alright, I guess. I can understand if you need a DA when you charge the flag. Fine.

 

The druggers who constantly, CONSTANTLY spam the buttons are the ones I have beef with. Mashing 1234 over and over and over shouldn't make you an unstoppable beast in any game, so why is it in effect here?

[TheRollingSlab 803]

The amount of hatred in this topic...

 

First off, I'm going to say what I have said before: Stop whining about druggers. And is a Generalissmo. Everyone uses supplies there. I've played many, many battles with Generalissmos and most of them drug. At Generalissmo, because everyone drugs, the player that finish high in battles have SKILL. Skill always wins over drugs. I play Polygon CP all the time, and when I see a drugging twins, I equip Hunter and Freeze, and drive circles around him. He can't touch me, and I don't even need to drug. Yes, supplies boost tank performance, but they will never me more important than skill. You can't argue with me on that. "Mashing 12345" does NOT make you an unstoppable beast, but what does make an unstoppable beast is a mixture of the two.

Edited June 18, 2016 by TheRollingSlab