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KingJack21 - I sometimes play in different servers, like RU, so trying to get team members to /vote can be tough. Even in EN it can be a struggle. 

I just wish the system would improve. Sabotage is a big issue within Tanki, and people feel they can get away with it, which creates this culture within the game where people can say and do whatever they want. I don't understand why i'm being made out to be ungrateful and unappreciative when all I want is the game to provide the measures that they say they have to protect the users who enjoy playing the game and invest financially in it. 

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All the users need to take part to take out the violoaters. Ask for the newspaper to do a article on it. I will get Bigtimerush_bry to team up with me to a AW article on the problem. 

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KingJack21 - I sometimes play in different servers, like RU, so trying to get team members to /vote can be tough. Even in EN it can be a struggle.

I just wish the system would improve. Sabotage is a big issue within Tanki, and people feel they can get away with it, which creates this culture within the game where people can say and do whatever they want. I don't understand why i'm being made out to be ungrateful and unappreciative when all I want is the game to provide the measures that they say they have to protect the users who enjoy playing the game and invest financially in it.

 

True, sometimes talking to a foreign team is very difficult. They don't usually care and just continue whatever they are doing...

 

Which means either the match is rigged or they are too noob to know what's going on.

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I think you're being a little dramatic and ridiculous. I want a game that protects and supports the players who enjoy and invest financially in the product, as should you. I don't want a game that creates a culture of sabotage through ineffectual moderation of in game abuses. Tanki has been around for a sufficient period of time to provide this support, and any excuse regarding the slow procedural process in enlisting moderators feels a little lacklustre and half-hearted.

I'm not here to get into a competition with you regarding who's been here the longest, and how the situation today is better than it was when you first started. That's not a valid reason for me to accept the lack of moderation. Tanki has a code of conduct, a /vote system, and moderators. People disregard the code, /vote doesn't work, and there are not enough moderators. I don't have to change my attitude or outlook towards the game, Tanki needs to start delivering. When you pay for a product, you expect it to perform in the way it is supposed to, and not just accept a substandard product because i should consider myself lucky It's not how it was four years ago.

I get where you're coming from and I totally sympathise with your perspective. Let me put it in points:

1. Moderators are volunteers. They cannot be created or enlisted as and when required.

2. Just because there's a lack of mods doesn't imply that all who are applying shall be enlisted. If you don't have the skills, you won't be enlisted. As simple as that.

3. The procedure isn't slow neither is the effort half hearted. If you have all the qualifications and experience, becoming a candidate will hardly take more than a fortnight. I wouldn't call that slow.

4. Tanki does protects it's customers. The fact that sabotage is against the rules is more than enough proof of that. The execution of that, however, usually requires our participation by taking a video of the said saboteur. As of now, that is the only way to ensure punishment for the inaction.

You might remember the 'kick' feature from 2013 which was introduced to fight sabotage but it backfired resulting in innocent players being victimised. So, I'm going to reiterate this, if you have any ideas on how to fight sabotage other than 'bring more mods', kindly suggest. If you don't, then this rant is going to lead nowhere.

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honestly having the abilitiy for your team to vote and kickk off a player on your team that is breaking the rules would make me very happy  and i feel like if you did this though they shouldnt be allowed to join that battle till it finishes of course there needs to be some anti cheat against people kicking the top players on their team so they get all the fund but, i would love to see an actual vote kick system like their is in MANY many of the other games with multiple players

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I get where you're coming from and I totally sympathise with your perspective. Let me put it in points:

1. Moderators are volunteers. They cannot be created or enlisted as and when required.

2. Just because there's a lack of mods doesn't imply that all who are applying shall be enlisted. If you don't have the skills, you won't be enlisted. As simple as that.

3. The procedure isn't slow neither is the effort half hearted. If you have all the qualifications and experience, becoming a candidate will hardly take more than a fortnight. I wouldn't call that slow.

4. Tanki does protects it's customers. The fact that sabotage is against the rules is more than enough proof of that. The execution of that, however, usually requires our participation by taking a video of the said saboteur. As of now, that is the only way to ensure punishment for the inaction.

You might remember the 'kick' feature from 2013 which was introduced to fight sabotage but it backfired resulting in innocent players being victimised. So, I'm going to reiterate this, if you have any ideas on how to fight sabotage other than 'bring more mods', kindly suggest. If you don't, then this rant is going to lead nowhere.

1. Yes they can. I'm struggling to understand why you would think doesn't Tanki operates on 'as and when required' basis. If there is a need for moderators, enlist/vet/process/enlist. Done. 

2. Nobody said they did, so thanks for that.

3. Then perhaps you could explain the tiny proportion of battle moderators within the Tanki game, when clearly there is a need for more?

4. What Tanki says, and what Tanki does are two very different things. Tanki says it has a /vote function, but we've all agreed through this thread, that it doesn't work the way it's supposed to. We've discovered through this thread that Tanki says it has battle moderators, but we now know it does not have enough. Tanki infers it protects it's customers, but it doesn't really when those who invest financially in the game/company/in turn the further development of the game, are left to feel frustrated and experience bad customer service due to Tanki's inability to police it's own game. 

 

I feel your comments are one sided, narrow, and unhelpful. Your support for Tanki is commendable, but it seems to limit your ability to view the flaws that the game has, and whilst I applaud the passion you clearly have, your perspective and opinion of the game is one that I don't require.

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honestly having the abilitiy for your team to vote and kickk off a player on your team that is breaking the rules would make me very happy  and i feel like if you did this though they shouldnt be allowed to join that battle till it finishes of course there needs to be some anti cheat against people kicking the top players on their team so they get all the fund but, i would love to see an actual vote kick system like their is in MANY many of the other games with multiple players

Hey, I don't know, man! It's all getting a little complicated in this thread, but I completely agree with you. A kick function would be good, but it seems like a system that would definitely get abused. I just want the /vote function to work. I just don't like how Tanki advertise it as a way to stop sabotage, but in practise it's about as useful as a chocolate teapot.  

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You quite misunderstand my intentions. The vehemence in my argument was purely for the sake of emphasising on the inaccuracy of yours. Let me give you a simple analogy.

Imagine an earthquake strikes a country. Much distress and damage is caused. In such a situation, there is a high demand for emergency services. Inspite of everything, many people won't receive help in time. Can they really blame anyone? The poor emergency services are jam packed with requests pouring in from all sides.

Of course, the analogy is quite crude, but try to understand my point here. Tanki can only recruit more moderators if more of them apply. If no one applies, then how can they make more moderators? All of us know that more of them are needed. In fact, as a direct proof, applications to Battle_mod position were opened today. We can hope to see more moderators in the near future. But do not expect a sudden rise in their numbers to an extent that all battles will be watched over. We have to be realistic. Crying over spilt milk never does any good and to be honest, that is exactly what we are doing here. 'The system is not effective.' Yes! We know that. What can we do about it? I'll tell you:

1. Suggest some cool ideas on how this issue can be dealt with.

2. Become a moderator and help fight this issue.

3. Help the moderators by taking videos and reporting the violators in the violators section of the forum.

If you still think I am wrong, we can argue about this in PM. I do not wish to make a bigger issue out of this.

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You quite misunderstand my intentions. The vehemence in my argument was purely for the sake of emphasising on the inaccuracy of yours. Let me give you a simple analogy.

Imagine an earthquake strikes a country. Much distress and damage is caused. In such a situation, there is a high demand for emergency services. Inspite of everything, many people won't receive help in time. Can they really blame anyone? The poor emergency services are jam packed with requests pouring in from all sides.

Of course, the analogy is quite crude, but try to understand my point here. Tanki can only recruit more moderators if more of them apply. If no one applies, then how can they make more moderators? All of us know that more of them are needed. In fact, as a direct proof, applications to Battle_mod position were opened today. We can hope to see more moderators in the near future. But do not expect a sudden rise in their numbers to an extent that all battles will be watched over. We have to be realistic. Crying over spilt milk never does any good and to be honest, that is exactly what we are doing here. 'The system is not effective.' Yes! We know that. What can we do about it? I'll tell you:

1. Suggest some cool ideas on how this issue can be dealt with.

2. Become a moderator and help fight this issue.

3. Help the moderators by taking videos and reporting the violators in the violators section of the forum.

If you still think I am wrong, we can argue about this in PM. I do not wish to make a bigger issue out of this.

Here's another simple analogy for you. Imagine you developed a computer game that has thousands of players and you've had seven years to put measures in place to efficiently deal with any conduct issues those players might be experiencing...

 

My issue, if you can even remember, was the /vote function. Since we have both agreed that it doesn't work I feel no need for you to continue commenting to essentially underline my original point. Thanks for playing.

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Has anyone ever tried recording 5 minutes of footage, whilst playing a game, then editing it, and then having to wait for it to upload onto Youtube, all so a guy that ruined your match can have action taken against them? 

I'm here to play Tanki, not moderate and record those out to sabotage the game. Don't get me wrong, if someone is persistent enough, then of course i'm going to record them and get a thrill out of seeing them banned for a period, but my gripe is the /vote command is pointless. Does it work? Do Tanki receive notifications from it? Do moderators monitor it? It would be so much easier if moderators could enter a game and see the action for themselves when a /vote command is sent, rather than having the current system where it's the players that have to police the game. 

yea /vote is better than now

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