why is tanki unfair and people are leaving?

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

Mults = unplayable game everywhere. The minute someone enters, the person loses due to match fixing. No wonder so many paying people leave TO because TO's sense of justice is dead!

 

So we have to record every match tediously...instead of TO having a system to flush them out systematically for us. And if we don't record?

 

The multing noob gets away and infect another battle.

Edited June 27, 2016 by Phoenix.Rising

[Gabe2607 499]

Ok. I, NOR many druggers, am not a kid.

Tip: first way to tell someone is trying raise their veiw by lowering the other persons "credability" is by calling them kid. Calling them kid instead of showing any content to support your claim. Dont do it.

 

It takes luck or a correct shots to control the drops. Guess what!!! In my battles, drugging requires skill also! Ive you dont control your drug use you will perish and lose. So... whats the difference? In every battle ive played that had drugs disabled and only with drops, this has happened.... one team had an overall advantage (not every but allot). And whats more!!!...It was on purpose. Thats what my leader in esports always said to do. Control drops and you control game. Most players try to take flag to control game... I know that the drops do it and it works. Take the first few minutes to control drops and win.

A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N... I am 48 years old. How old are you... ? :P

The point I am making is: drop boxes are for every one to catch. Skills (no luck) of a team. Drugs, on the other side, are for the ones who spend more money and decide to waste them massively and foolishly. 90% of the time, druggers will get a reward in crystals lower than their consumption cost. Do they realize it? No! Drugging like that is a symptom of someone who did not mature the art of economy yet, typical of kids (or teenagers). Druggers language will confirm their young age too. Plenty of players got to Generalissimo and still have no game strategy at all. Have you ever played football against kids? If you have the ball, they will all run against you and they will also take it no matter how good you are, but then I do not call it football... and if they could press a number and double their speed/power, they would all time :D

Edited June 28, 2016 by CooperO
There's no need for name calling.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Did u know that most druggers earn twice as much as their drugs cost? No you dont... because you dont understand them.

Is your skill going to Drop the box on you? No. Who ever is in the right place right moment by chance. While smartcooldowns is a mechanism that you use. Im afraid its too advanced for you mr. Brig

[Hungry.Hungry.Hippo 45]

1. Ive been playing this game nearly 4 years only seen probably 5 hackers. Recent updates have i think, stop the majority

2. Buyers only affect u if u play a buyers game, there so many non supply games for u to play. Also, Buyers love a losing battle, if ur 8v3 10 flags ahead with 20mins left and keep caping, buyers/clans will join

3. Mults happen in all games, very hard to stop

 

Build a bridge and get over or leave, simple

[Gabe2607 499]

Did u know that most druggers earn twice as much as their drugs cost? No you dont... because you dont understand them.

Is your skill going to Drop the box on you? No. Who ever is in the right place right moment by chance. While smartcooldowns is a mechanism that you use. Im afraid its too advanced for you mr. Brig

I am not trying to convince you, but... you are wrong :D  Rewards are for everyone to see after the battle. Crystals consumption not, but approx. 2 per minute equals 30 drugs per battle at an approx. cost of 20 crystals per drug equals 600 crystals. In most of my battles no one drugger gets that. Boxes drop with regular frequency, same spot, same number. Anyway, you did not reveal your age and I suspect.... :D

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

I am not trying to convince you, but... you are wrong :D Rewards are for everyone to see after the battle. Crystals consumption not, but approx. 2 per minute equals 30 drugs per battle at an approx. cost of 20 crystals per drug equals 600 crystals. In most of my battles no one drugger gets that. Boxes drop with regular frequency, same spot, same number. Anyway, you did not reveal your age and I suspect.... :D

im the drugger not you.

10 cry per drug with the exception of health.+ boxes + daily missions means i spend 300-400 cry a battle on drugs. Standard earning are about 500-800...

thats 2 drugs a minute!!

 

If you look at me....

I use 17 drugs a minute containing 4 healths.

 

8.8235294118 a drug and 26.4705882353 a health equaling 211.7647058824 cry a battle on bought drugs. Make that 150 because of dail ymissions.

whos wasting money and doesnt know economy? And whos arrogant?

Edited June 28, 2016 by A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

I finished highschool 6 years ago

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

To be honest though.... i drug more than i wrote because i play xp bp and none drug battles alot too.

But it costs about 200 cry a 15 min battle

[Gabe2607 499]

im the drugger not you.

10 cry per drug with the exception of health.+ boxes + daily missions means i spend 300-400 cry a battle on drugs. Standard earning are about 500-800...

thats 2 drugs a minute!!

 

If you look at me....

I use 17 drugs a minute containing 4 healths.

 

8.8235294118 a drug and 26.4705882353 a health equaling 211.7647058824 cry a battle on bought drugs. Make that 150 because of dail ymissions.

whos wasting money and doesnt know economy? And whos arrogant?

Feel free to call me arrogant and whatever else, but you just prove my point :) Drugs from daily missions have to be considered too, as it takes time to get them and they could go for material updates. So include them in your calculations. 10 crystals per drug only if you buy the 1,000 package, not always available. And you say that most druggers make 300 crystals every 15 minutes? Lol... Since there are so many druggers, there will be druggers on the losing team too and how many crys will they make? I just made another 4 battles, almost all druggers and none has been covering their cost one single time...

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

im the drugger not you.

10 cry per drug with the exception of health.+ boxes + daily missions means i spend 300-400 cry a battle on drugs. Standard earning are about 500-800...

thats 2 drugs a minute!!

 

I don't think you're a drugger at all.

You use on average 63 drugs per hour.  That is 1.06 per minute.

Daily missions aside, if you buy the drugs bundle available to you at your rank, you spend on average 242 crystals on supplies per 15 minute battle.

 

Did u know that most druggers earn twice as much as their drugs cost?

So you are claiming that you earn 484 crystals on average per 15 minute battle? You're must always finish on the winning side and in the top 3 for that to be true.

 

Here are you numbers

 

And here is a graph for the last few weeks

 

Trust me, you're not a drugger. You're someone who doesn't mind using them but I come across players who drug 3 or 4 times more than you. I use 3 supplies every 2 minutes and while some may view me as a drugger, I don't think I am compared to some players I face.

 

btw, the numbers I have quoted are factual. I keep records.  

 

 

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Well.

in standard battles I drug.

i play xp and lots of other things. My ratings are not something to base upon. I bet i use 25 to 30 a battle.

yes, i tend to be on the winning side and i like being top

 

Edit:

I dont join the winning side always... which ever is emptier. I ALSO join heavily outnumbered teams.

Ive done many many hill CTF takeovers (not on purpose !! I joined hill ctf and battled my best)

Edited June 28, 2016 by A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N

[Gabe2607 499]

I don't think you're a drugger at all.

You use on average 63 drugs per hour.  That is 1.06 per minute.

Daily missions aside, if you buy the drugs bundle available to you at your rank, you spend on average 242 crystals on supplies per 15 minute battle.

 

So you are claiming that you earn 484 crystals on average per 15 minute battle? You're must always finish on the winning side and in the top 3 for that to be true.

 

Here are you numbers

 

And here is a graph for the last few weeks

 

Trust me, you're not a drugger. You're someone who doesn't mind using them but I come across players who drug 3 or 4 times more than you. I use 3 supplies every 2 minutes and while some may view me as a drugger, I don't think I am compared to some players I face.

 

btw, the numbers I have quoted are factual. I keep records.  

That's impressive, especially coming from a drugger :P  How do you get those graphs??? Would it be possible to see the lowest users of drugs in Tanki Online? I just wonder where I stand... :D

[Bydo 20,129]

well in this game even the new players drug and they leave by a certain rank due to the waste of drugs used before there time..

 

most players use to only drug when they reached the gold star but not its way too early from druggers..

 

along with the rage quitting before a gold stars.. thats why players now say its a buyers game when really its not if you learn to balance the drugs and game winnings you can buy just equipment before you need to use drugs .. sure the equipment higher up is over priced compared to other games .. some of the things are crazy in prices like even to get a name changed 100k like what are they thinking .. no wonder less players want to change there names

[i200000 717]

Well if your not a sad old man who spends all his time drugging and buying to win games then fair play!  this game has  seen a dramatic decrease from 110k to barely reaching 50-60k a day at peak during the weak? 

 

well of 3 reasons?!

 (1)  hackers...never changes some noob jump hacks or uses speed.. Hate hackers? Play with friends.

(2)  ah the buyers literally come into the game and everyone has been fed up being cannon fodder and quit Hate buyers? Play with friends.

(3)mults?! deliberate accounts used on enemy team just to take up place! today alone i was in a battle 8v10 where there was only 2 of us moving on the team it was laughable! Hate mults? Play with friends.

 

have any comments or other complaints go ahead?!  Play with friends.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

That's impressive, especially coming from a drugger :P  How do you get those graphs??? Would it be possible to see the lowest users of drugs in Tanki Online? I just wonder where I stand... :D

I just wrote a little script that daily checks various accounts. His was one of the ones it monitored mainly because he was an active poster in the topic moaning about drugs. It's not available for everyone.

 

I should write more.

 

eg, server loads and players in battle

 

all these little facts come in handy when making an argument!

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

^genius in tanki.... and he drugs. Still think the same?

Anyway.

 

Its players like AbsoluteZero that I like in tanki....

[Gabe2607 499]

^genius in tanki.... and he drugs. Still think the same?

Anyway.

 

Its players like AbsoluteZero that I like in tanki....

AbsoluteZero was actually confirming my line i.e. crystals consumption is higher than crystals rewards for most druggers. But you guys helped me to think further: you both are Generalissimo and you both have all possible M3 tanks/turrets. Your only way to consume crystals is buying and using drugs, which case I actually have to justify. What else can you do? But that got to be boring... no real goals... That is why I believe there should be all sort of periodical Tournaments and Leagues for everyone (with clear rules on drugging), rather than "self standing" battles.

[MiR4cUl0uS 815]

1. Report them and they will get punished.

2. You know that buyers mostly are not professional players, so just play pro battles without drugs or maybe XP/BP and show them what you got ;)

3. Also like I said, report them.

 

I don't know why are you people always get angry because of those issues, I'm playing this game for 5-6 years, and I never had problem with those people.

 

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Ikr I have no idea why. Just ignore them guys don't forgot to report!

[MiR4cUl0uS 815]

well in this game even the new players drug and they leave by a certain rank due to the waste of drugs used before there time..

 

most players use to only drug when they reached the gold star but not its way too early from druggers..

 

along with the rage quitting before a gold stars.. thats why players now say its a buyers game when really its not if you learn to balance the drugs and game winnings you can buy just equipment before you need to use drugs .. sure the equipment higher up is over priced compared to other games .. some of the things are crazy in prices like even to get a name changed 100k like what are they thinking .. no wonder less players want to change there names

 

I really don't get why people always cry when some drugs a lot?? He/She bought drugs for a reason to USE THEM You guys don't have the right to call someone a "Noob Drugger"

[MiR4cUl0uS 815]

I finished highschool 6 years ago

The stop playing this game and go on with your life go do something go get a job get married etc... this game is for teens... xD

 

 

I'm Jk :ph34r: :ph34r:

 

 

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

this game has  seen a dramatic decrease from 110k to barely reaching 50-60k a day at peak during the weak?

 

 

I don't know why are you people always get angry because of those issues, I'm playing this game for 5-6 years, and I never had problem with those people.

 

Dude, I'm telling you the truth, I NEVER saw a hacker, I saw mults but NEVER hackers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Interesting suggestion. I wonder who will use that for benefits.

Such arrogance!

 

The situation is in fact a lot deeper and more complex than what is immediately evident. That said, I assure you we're doing our best to deal with it.

Well the numbers in the graph, simple as they maybe, are telling me that too many are giving up on tanki and their meaningless assurances. The game has stagnated and year in year out players moan about the things that are driving them away and you do nothing meaningful about it.  Face it, you lot in tanki are full of hot air and tanki is not growing, it's shrinking. You must fail your attrition targets every day.

 

And you can blame it on the time of year if you want but the fact of the matter is you fail the players here time and time again. Mults, saboteurs, non-triers etc spoil games constantly and your lack of action will be your downfall. You may have benefited from them in the short-term but they'll be the death of you.

 

What have you done since you retracted that daft kick system? Nada, nothing, zip...

Edited July 3, 2016 by Tareq.Jami
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[Schroedinger_Cat 38]

Dude, I'm telling you the truth, I NEVER saw a hacker, I saw mults but NEVER hackers.

The fact that you have never seen them (which I doubt, I saw 2-3 hackers in 6 months, and you saw none in 6 years?) does not mean they do not exist. I never saw a bacteria, which doesn't mean they do not exist.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

This is what a hacker looks like, Are you sure you have been paying tanki for 6 years?  :huh:

 

That's not a hacker. Hackers don't exist. It was just very bad lag!

[ireland_tanker 375]

there are cheat engines,  my old friend mon05 downloaded one to jump/fly in tanki showed me it in a 1v1 and was recorded and banned!!!

[Inducer 12]

1. Report them and they will get punished.

2. You know that buyers mostly are not professional players, so just play pro battles without drugs or maybe XP/BP and show them what you got ;)

3. Also like I said, report them.

 

I don't know why are you people always get angry because of those issues, I'm playing this game for 5-6 years, and I never had problem with those people.

 

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Well, most people's "report them" tactic is the "/vote" system, which never actually does anything. Everyone in the game could "/vote" a player, but that player will never be banned, and a mod will never come. Also, most people enjoy continuing their game, not pausing, downloading a video recording software, gathering the sufficient proof (which sometimes, after following the prior steps, you are too late to find), uploading the video to youtube, posting a report, and hoping that a ban will actually happen. It isn't as simple as "Report Them".