why is tanki unfair and people are leaving?

[Thunderboomer 23]

Now they will sell you the "color" and then sell you the "protection" you desire. And they can charge you twice for the same paint! Brilliant!

 

And they are working on updates for this and updates for that, having tournaments, contests, talking in circles like they always do.

 

Why don't they take that time and fix the lag, or the cheating, or the mults? Too much trouble.

 

No, they want YOU to record the players and give them the video and then they MIGHT block the player for a day IF YOU have the proper evidence. On that day, the cheater just plays a different account and then goes right back to cheating!

I give myself a dead line: the day they start the new paint will be the day I quit the game. It is enough for all these non-stop updates after updates after updates, without taking care of the lags, cheating, etc.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

I give myself a dead line: the day they start the new paint will be the day I quit the game. It is enough for all these non-stop updates after updates after updates, without taking care of the lags, cheating, etc.

I think many will be with you there

[Bendigedig 0]

Cheaters are a major problem in online games like this. Once users realize that there's cheating happening so often they lose faith in the product and stop paying into it, as the buyer advantage you expect to get is being undone by the cheaters. What you then find is that some that have lost out to cheats then start cheating themselves, which in turn makes a cycle of cheats or people that quit the game. It's a lose-lose situation.

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

MULTS AND BUYERS

 

Mults . . . even just one on your team can ruin the battle. You are down a player, start to loose, a buyer drugger is on enemy team, so you try to make up for your missing team mate as well as match the enemy drugger, so you drug. When you drug, most of the enemies start drugging cause "you did it first". You loose the battle after using a nice part of your precious stock of drugs, so you get angry and leave the battle. All of your team does. Another battle dead . . . The mult from your battle joins another battle, same process. 

 

In short, buyers AND mults unbalance battles, battles die, all battles get boring and pointless.

 

 

PRO BATTLES

 

Mods: "Just play PRO battles its no problem"  

This is one problem, mods act like its not a problem when SO many players are leaving/complaining about it! Instead of saying its not a problem, accept that its a problem and get some minds working on a solution. PRO battles is not a solution. For one thing PRO battles that are just normal battles are VERY uncommon (at least for my rank) and the ones that do exist are either ranked up to Gissimo, or have very few players. And XP/BP battles . . . yes they can be fun, you can escape the unbalance (from buyers/druggers still the mult problem), but even in balanced games, it gets really repetitive, same combo, same game-play.         I don't have a short version of this sorry  . . .

 

 

POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS?

 

Ok so I think a possible solution to the buyer/drugger problem. (Tbh slightly higher equipment isn't fun to fight, but drugs are the real problem because buyers get huge amounts of drugs as well as kits). So lets just have the option to make non-pro battles with very limited supplies, like smart supplies but a lot more strict.       Mult problem: So a possible solution is if you don't make a certain amount of exp. per minute, or 2 mins you get kicked. Not a too high amount of exp, and for higher ranks more exp is required. This would ensure that you get at least SOME help from the mults, and I don't see a problem with it.

 

 

So those are my thought on the issue, cause I'm really hating to see this game going downhill, and I'm one of those who is losing interest as well.

Pro battle are most definitely the way forward for those that do not want to fight with supplies/drugs!  It is only the refusal to pay that is holding these games back.  The vast majority of people just get on with the game with or without buying supplies/drugs but the more determined "it must be free whatever, I won,t pay anything I want a free ride people", continue to hassle, plead, beg, complain, conspire, misrepresent, exaggerate, lie, throw tantrums, use hyperbole, the list is endless.  Just play the game, buy or don't buy but carrying on like a baby that has spat out its dummy is not the way forward, no one is going to pick it up for you, do it your selves!

Edited July 10, 2016 by ELIZABETH1122

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

I believe that TankiX will cut out lag and it should be more difficult to hack.  Flash should have been stopped years ago it has always been problematic and uses a lot of resource.  However I do think that it will not save tank because it is taking so much time an money to develop and it will be therefore expensive to play.  They have left everything too late.  TankiX should have been started much earlier and more developers employed to have 2 separate teams, one for x and one foe flash.  They should have done far more to keep players especially paying players by attending to the main problems and being seen doing so.  Spending time on updates such as changes to equipment is not a priority, it is short term-ism which is being forced through in a desperate attempt to increase revenue.  As usual it has all been handled very badly causing even more confusion , unhappiness and resentment  They need quality PR staff, well they need a lot of things

[freeze.11 100]

Ireland_tanker,I Don't think that there was decrease because of Mults,Buyers and Hackers because they were in the game when we made total of 110k,weren't they? The thing is there are different causes for it,Like Life and Breaking of Star Ladder agreement.

[ghost-guns 1,486]

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Edited August 11, 2016 by ghost-guns

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

I believe that TankiX will cut out lag and it should be more difficult to hack.

Unfortunately no. Already on YouTube appeared a lot of videos of cheating and using various hacks in Tanki X.

 

What is more interesting, is that the developers pay more attention to Tanki X than at Tanki Online. So, if they are already paying more attention and effort to Tanki X rather on Tanki Online, even in the test phase looks like they have not done enough on preventing cheaters and hackers. On the contrary they already made some failures in the beta phase.

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But, since Tanki X is still in a test phase, remains to be seen what they will do further on this point.

[beaku 2,656]

Unfortunately no. Already on YouTube appeared a lot of videos of cheating and using various hacks in Tanki X.

 

What is more interesting, is that the developers pay more attention to Tanki X than at Tanki Online. So, if they are already paying more attention and effort to Tanki X rather on Tanki Online, even in the test phase looks like they have not done enough on preventing cheaters and hackers. On the contrary they already made some failures in the beta phase.

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But, since Tanki X is still in a test phase, remains to be seen what they will do further on this point.

Yes, TX does have a lot of bugs and loopholes which can be hacked at this moment. That's why it's in testing phase. The past few updates have really improved the situation a lot and I think that nearly all the weak points will be patched up by the time OBT kicks in.

Btw, the TX development team is separate from TO development team so, it's not like either is getting any less attention. The Community Manager, Admins, Mods will be different too (with a few exceptions).

 

I'm working my way towards Railgun and a pro pass so I can play XP / BP to escape the druggers, but tanki have totally nerfed my missions. Like seriously, I am hardly earning any crystals and I don't think it's by chance.

Bad luck, man. Things have been different for me recently. I've getting more and more crystals for my missions and each one seems to be better than the last. So, I can probably vouch for the fact that missions haven't been nerfed. (I wish I could say the same for my alt, though. :c) Edited July 10, 2016 by beaku

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

Btw, the TX development team is separate from TO development team so, it's not like either is getting any less attention. The Community Manager, Admins, Mods will be different too (with a few exceptions).

No, no I thought more about the attention from the AlternativaPlatform

[Cute_re 582]

The real reason is support doesn't know ENGLISH . 

[L.I.I3.3.I2.T.Y 820]

The real reason is support doesn't know ENGLISH . 

Hehe lol, they do. They even know german very good...

[KoKoRocha 9]

I've been in battles, as most have, where one team drugs continuously, and the other team doesn't. My observation of this game, is not the skill that is put forth by a team that wins the battle, but rather which team has the most druggies.

 

My personal take on this is, those who have to drug as much and as fast as they can, have weak weapons and weak tanks. Meaning, they have spent their hard earned money (or those of their parents) on drugs and not so much on the upgrade of their weapons and tanks. I've seen big tanks with big weapons absolutely destroy the other team. But if you can catch them in between drugs, they are like butter in a hot pan. In killing them, you may take a few weak hits, but they are easy to take down.

 

I've seen the suggestions many times to join Pro battles. I would, if it didn't cost 500 crystals. I'd rather spend my hard earned crystals on upgrades and a few supplies to use against other supply users. I don't put money into any game, I use that for everyday survival.

 

Would I play this game if I had to pay to play? Absolutely not. In games where you have a choice, it becomes a battle between the have's and have not's.  

[Bugs.meeny 1,013]

Pro battle are most definitely the way forward for those that do not want to fight with supplies/drugs!  It is only the refusal to pay that is holding these games back.  The vast majority of people just get on with the game with or without buying supplies/drugs but the more determined "it must be free whatever, I won,t pay anything I want a free ride people", continue to hassle, plead, beg, complain, conspire, misrepresent, exaggerate, lie, throw tantrums, use hyperbole, the list is endless.  Just play the game, buy or don't buy but carrying on like a baby that has spat out its dummy is not the way forward, no one is going to pick it up for you, do it your selves!

I said nothing about the cost of the pro pass, all I said was pro battles that are just regular any equipment are rare, at least for my rank. All I was doing was trying to help the game out, i didnt "hassle, plead, beg, complain, conspire, misrepresent, exaggerate, lie, throw tantrums, use hyperbole" everything I siad was true. Instead of whining about whiners, you should try to think of a solution to the problems

Edited July 11, 2016 by Bugs.meeny

[KoKoRocha 9]

Hehe lol, they do. They even know german very good...

And Russian, too. Plus a myriad of other languages.

[KoKoRocha 9]

I think tanki has 1 maybe 2 months left before they go out of business. Their servers are crap and no one is playing. Tanki x will never work right - same devs.

TO will be here for a while longer. Customer support may go up and down, but TO will not go down that easily. I will venture to say, even after TX is up and running full swing, TO will still be around and still have a following.

Edited July 11, 2016 by KoKoRocha

[beaku 2,656]

I said nothing about the cost of the pro pass, all I said was pro battles that are just regular any equipment are rare, at least for my rank. All I was doing was trying to help the game out, i didnt "hassle, plead, beg, complain, conspire, misrepresent, exaggerate, lie, throw tantrums, use hyperbole" everything I siad was true. Instead of whining about whiners, you should try to think of a solution to the problems

Well, if PRO battles around your rank are rare then I don't know how to explain the fact that everytime I play a PRO battle, 90% of the players are around your rank. -_-

Tbh, though, I find no-supplies battle dull (in comparison to normal battles). The fund grows at snail speed, there are hardly any stalemates, etc. Of course, the skill part kicks in as you can no longer rely on repair kits and double armour to survive. But most of the players who complaint about drugs actually wouldn't like No-supplies battles. Many of you would remember April 2015 when PRO pass was available for 500 crystals. At that time, I did not see the exponential surge in No-supplies battles that I had expected. There was a significant rise in Parkour battles and Format Battles but not in No-supplies battle(I'm only talking what I observed at my rank, your observation may differ).

The main issue is not supplies themselves but rather the uneven distribution of them. The only players who are able to amass huge amount of supplies are either buyers (who can spend on both equipment and supplies) or Generalissimos who aren't worried much about equipment (or players like me, who have been saving up for ages). It's obvious that for most players supplies and equipment are mutually exclusive. Product kits can be a middle ground but for some reason, many players cannot afford product kits.

To strike a balance, one can change his gameplay style to earn maximum crystals while using minimum supplies. Throughout my middle ranks, I've mostly played on maps like Polygon and Noise which are high fund generating but also susceptible to druggers. Various techniques can be used on both of these maps to avoid being spawn killed and to earn a decent amount of crystals.

The overall point is, there are many solutions to the supplies problem and most of them do include compromise in some way or the other. And I find that completely okay. After all, there's hardly any fun in playing dull battles all the time (Don't get me wrong. NS battles can be very competitive and fun to play but again, we have a problem of lack of such battles).

[ghost-guns 1,486]

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Edited August 11, 2016 by ghost-guns

[Bugs.meeny 1,013]

@beaku maybe im looking in the wrong places for those PRO battles, I just cant seem to find them, other than XP/BP or parkour. I agree with all you said here, NS battles are boring, thats why I think we should have a choice to do limited supply battles , sort of as an in-between for normal battles and NS battles

Edited July 12, 2016 by Bugs.meeny

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

Isida is a disgrace. It destroys M 3.5 viking like it's nothing. I said this last year and they still haven't made it fair so what's the point in playing.

Not surprised looking at your kit.  I bet it is not even maxed.  You can not judge turrets on hulls by appearance.  You do not know our paints obviously and you can not know mu.

[ghost-guns 1,486]

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Edited August 11, 2016 by ghost-guns

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

Listen mate I'm not some sad old fogie who spends money on this game to win. I spend NOTHING and my K/D is way better than your's. LOL

So you like to save your self.

[r_Tellurium1 9]

I find it cringe-worthy that people agree with the OP.. 

Edited July 13, 2016 by r_Tellurium1

[danstar48 18]

Dude, I'm telling you the truth, I NEVER saw a hacker, I saw mults but NEVER hackers.

Also, Tanki is not blocking IPs, cuz sometimes a whole town has the same IP.

You are free to report them or not.

By saying I didn't have problems with those I meant, I'm not going to cry and open topics in the forum saying that Hackers and Mults should be removed, because that will NEVER happen.

Whatever Tanki does, they can't remove mults or hackers, they punish them but can't remove them

Tariq bro i can share a couple of videos with you if you say in which i have recorded a bunch of hacker using jump hack , multi guns and speed hacks, no reload hack  but reporting required high quality videos so that mods can see the offender clearly and as HD videos are larger in size i cannot just uploada them my internet uploada speed is not enough to upload hd videos and my data plan is limited not unlimited

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

I find it cringe-worthy that people agree with the OP.. 

explain