Category Ideas for the Shop and payments!

[Viking4s 10,791]

it is confirmed hazel hates me. 4 product kits all with tankoins. 

[E_polypterus 2,374]

23 minutes ago, Viking4s said:

it is confirmed hazel hates me. 4 product kits all with tankoins. 

That’s very unlucky. What kit are you planning to buy?

[Viking4s 10,791]

10 minutes ago, E_polypterus said:

That’s very unlucky. What kit are you planning to buy?

It is for this accountL https://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/Tokamak

Looking for Viking-Thunder MK6 product kits. I am tired of with my current Hornet-Hammer MK7.

At this rate I am going to rank up again before I get it, ugh.

Edited May 18, 2020 by Viking4s

[SporkZilla 1,775]

1 hour ago, Viking4s said:

Looking for Viking-Thunder MK6 product kits

I don't think you can buy any MK6 Thunder kits for crystals at Major? Need to rank up for Wasp / Hunter / Titan kits and get to Colonel for the rest.

I've had no kits for crystals offers on any of my (four) accounts today

Edited May 18, 2020 by SporkZilla

[Viking4s 10,791]

27 minutes ago, SporkZilla said:

I don't think you can buy any MK6 Thunder kits for crystals at Major? Need to rank up for Wasp / Hunter / Titan kits and get to Colonel for the rest. I've had no kits for crystals offers on any of my (four) accounts today

You are right, it is even worse, i have to rank 2 more times. MK6 kit with tankoins, but MK5 with crystals. With my luck the Crystals product kit will be available just before I rank up.  Ok I don't need to check the shop before I reach, that saves me time.

Product Kits	Price and Range
	Mk1	Mk2	Mk3	Mk4	Mk5	Mk6	Mk7
Raiden  +	1 530   50	7 650   280	34 850   960	84 150   2 050	175 950   2 770	253 300   5 130	382 500   7 320

HAHA, now I know why there is no crystals kit 

Edited May 18, 2020 by Viking4s

[Mirza7 235]

If crystal kits are made available, f2p/w players are not the only players who would buy them, in fact buyers will hoard all the kits in one day where only few f2w players who have around 200k crystals can by one kit. this idea is baseless. kits should be removed from the game (I am talking about kits with equipment that player can not get by simply upgrading)

[Gauss-Hornet 489]

31 minutes ago, Mirza7 said:

If crystal kits are made available, f2p/w players are not the only players who would buy them, in fact buyers will hoard all the kits in one day where only few f2w players who have around 200k crystals can by one kit. this idea is baseless. kits should be removed from the game (I am talking about kits with equipment that player can not get by simply upgrading)

Buyers already have kits of the next modification available to them in the shop. This topic is about how Tanki's crushing grip on F2Ps can be relaxed a bit by making Turrets, Hulls, and maybe Modules (the basic stuff- not all those drones, augments and what not) available affordably; instead of forcing us to buy each and every modification.

Edited May 18, 2020 by Gauss-Hornet

[sharifsahaf 656]

1 hour ago, Mirza7 said:

If crystal kits are made available, f2p/w players are not the only players who would buy them, in fact buyers will hoard all the kits in one day where only few f2w players who have around 200k crystals can by one kit. this idea is baseless. kits should be removed from the game (I am talking about kits with equipment that player can not get by simply upgrading)

aight .ur idea is totally wrong .buyers can hoard kits for tankoins as much as they want  . @Gauss-Hornet  understood what i meant to say .removing crytals kits from the garage is the worst decision tanki ever made .baseless idea?ur  dumb ,really dumb .im trying to help the f2p player an most of the tanki community .believe me ik majority of the tanki players support crystal kits

[sharifsahaf 656]

On 5/16/2020 at 6:34 PM, Maf said:

Since your topic isn't a particularly major or original idea, and it fits into a "category" topic, it is given the merge tag. This means that the topic stays separate for a few days to allow for discussion, but gets merged into the larger topic once it becomes inactive.

For more information please see the guide for posting ideas.

so its not gonna be valid ?could u send me the link to the original topic ?cause i cant find any other exact topic .cheers

[Mirza7 235]

Tell me this between p2p and f2p players who can earn crystals faster?

f2p players spend most of there money upgrading there equipment from scratch as they level up but p2p players have more opportunities to save money because they buy a the kit they wanted at start. they earn more crystals, get better rewards, get more containers. sources of their crystal income are more and crystal expanses are less compared to f2p players. crystals will just make it easier for them to buy more kits they will not have to spend extra real money. even before when crystal kits were available buyers would buy them as soon they appeared but I could only buy what my budget allowed. I realized instead of saving crystals it was better to just keep micro upgrading to keep my equipment growing as fast as I can afford along with leveling up. that way I did not have to play with low spec equipment while waiting for the right kit to appear in garage.

Another problem is The tanki way of doing things. Devs are strange stubborn creature living in a jungle isolated from consumers. they are like poets, they love their own logic. even if they do give us product kits for crystals + discount, those probably will only include kits that you can simply upgrade to with crystals or buy in current discount days. for example: MK4 kit was available in shop of crystals along with MK5 kits for tankoins (+discount) and even mk6 kits for tankoins (-discount). do you see the clear discrimination. I bet devs can give us logical reason for that also.

 At least If you are asking for kits than clearly ask for same kits available only for Tankoins (mk6 ones in my example). Otherwise this will only create more advantage for buyers.

Don't get upset just because I criticized your idea. (I mean if you are not a kid)

[wolverine848 13,097]

4 hours ago, Mirza7 said:

If crystal kits are made available, f2p/w players are not the only players who would buy them, in fact buyers will hoard all the kits in one day where only few f2w players who have around 200k crystals can by one kit. this idea is baseless. kits should be removed from the game (I am talking about kits with equipment that player can not get by simply upgrading)

Well they won't be removed from the game.  To think otherwise is naive.  It's like saying "don't balance the OP OverDrives - they should just be removed from the game". Well ODs are here to stay - so BALANCE THEM.

So what if buyers will buy more kits - they can only use one at a time.  Currently F2P tankers have no access to the kits and are at a huge disadvantage.

 

[sharifsahaf 656]

19 minutes ago, Mirza7 said:

Tell me this between p2p and f2p players who can earn crystals faster?

f2p players spend most of there money upgrading there equipment from scratch as they level up but p2p players have more opportunities to save money because they buy a the kit they wanted at start. they earn more crystals, get better rewards, get more containers. sources of their crystal income are more and crystal expanses are less compared to f2p players. crystals will just make it easier for them to buy more kits they will not have to spend extra real money. even before when crystal kits were available buyers would buy them as soon they appeared but I could only buy what my budget allowed. I realized instead of saving crystals it was better to just keep micro upgrading to keep my equipment growing as fast as I can afford along with leveling up. that way I did not have to play with low spec equipment while waiting for the right kit to appear in garage.

Another problem is The tanki way of doing things. Devs are strange stubborn creature living in a jungle isolated from consumers. they are like poets, they love their own logic. even if they do give us product kits for crystals + discount, those probably will only include kits that you can simply upgrade to with crystals or buy in current discount days. for example: MK4 kit was available in shop of crystals along with MK5 kits for tankoins (+discount) and even mk6 kits for tankoins (-discount). do you see the clear discrimination. I bet devs can give us logical reason for that also.

 At least If you are asking for kits than clearly ask for same kits available only for Tankoins (mk6 ones in my example). Otherwise this will only create more advantage for buyers.

Don't get upset just because I criticized your idea. (I mean if you are not a kid)

i dint get upset.as u can see most people agree with me .suppose they remove crystals kits .how the **** are f2p players going to fight against p2w players who already bought kits ?mu'ing requires time and more crytals .at lieutenant colonel im struggling against buyers with mk7 kits ,while i have mk5's .the amount of time and crystals required to buy and mu it is too much .moreover while buying crystal kits ,we get the protection modules at a discount .try buying and mu'ing modules .all of ur crystal slips away .and check ur writing ,u said -"while waiting for the right kit to appear in garage" .if u had read my article u would have seen that i proposed all crystal kits to be made available for a day ,so u could buy ur  needed kit .ur arguement is inconsistent and just dumb .why will tanki give us the same kits available for tankoins?without advantages ,no one will buy and hence tanki faces lack of money .besides like @wolverine848 said -buyers can only equip one kit at a time ,hence ur objection that they can buy all the kits in one day is also illogical.moreover its better to buy a mk6 kit and muing it to mk7 then buying a mk5 kit and muing it to mk6 .im trying to help f2w players and i guess most of them will understand and support the idea .however if u dont ,its ur opinion

[Mirza7 235]

4 minutes ago, wolverine848 said:

 

Let me clarify my point:

My current rank: Third Lieutenant

Hull: Dict. + Turret: Thunder

Kit I want to buy:

At my rank I can only get Mk4 kit. But I have already upgraded my thunder to mk4-10(mk5) and dict. to mk3-10(mk4) If I can do that why would I buy mk4 kit?

Tankoins are like cheat. I can buy mk5 of Simoom from shop right now. If had tankoins. (they need to update product kit wiki).

I would love to buy mk6 or mk7 kit for crystals. even if I get mk5 kit for crystals + 15% discount this is not worth stopping my micro upgrades to save crystals.

 

[Mirza7 235]

Tell me something where did "Brodsky" buy all that at that level? 

[fghjkl54 1,517]

28 minutes ago, Mirza7 said:

(they need to update product kit wiki).

the product kit in wiki is only for kits who are in showcase of HTML5 version (full price of flash version not avaible)

[fghjkl54 1,517]

13 minutes ago, Mirza7 said:

Tell me something where did "Brodsky" buy all that at that level? 

before MK update he must bought all M2 kits and fully upgraded them so after mk update they became Mk7

[Mirza7 235]

1 minute ago, fghjkl54 said:

the product kit in wiki is only for kits who are in showcase of HTML5 version (full price of flash version not avaible)

In HTML5 price in Tankoin is twice the price you see in wiki

[fghjkl54 1,517]

Just now, Mirza7 said:

In HTML5 price in Tankoin is twice the price you see in wiki

i said showcase the kits in showcase of HTML5 version is discounted by 30% or 35% see at the top of HTML5 shop

[sharifsahaf 656]

1 hour ago, Mirza7 said:

Let me clarify my point:

My current rank: Third Lieutenant

Hull: Dict. + Turret: Thunder

Kit I want to buy:

At my rank I can only get Mk4 kit. But I have already upgraded my thunder to mk4-10(mk5) and dict. to mk3-10(mk4) If I can do that why would I buy mk4 kit?

Tankoins are like cheat. I can buy mk5 of Simoom from shop right now. If had tankoins. (they need to update product kit wiki).

I would love to buy mk6 or mk7 kit for crystals. even if I get mk5 kit for crystals + 15% discount this is not worth stopping my micro upgrades to save crystals.

 

what u must understand is not everyone faces these problems .u mu'ed ur thunder .i can buy a freeze mk5 and mu it to mk6 or i can buy a mk6  freeze kit and mu it to mk7.u cant mu ur firebird to mk6 can u?and at ur rank u can get mk5 kits for crystals .maybe not all of them .dont u think id love to buy a mk7 kit for crystals? but tanki has to give their buyers an advantage or they wouldnt buy.suppose u didnt mu ur thunder .u have a mk4  .at ur rank its still usable .if u wait and rank again u can buy a mk5 simoom kit then u could mu it to mk6 .now if u wanna mu ur current thunder to mk6 ull have to wait till mk5 thunder unlocks .and with kits u get that mk5 thunder protection module too .so why would u mu if u can just rank once and get all of those at a discount?but these arent what im trying to say .suppose all kits were made available for 30-50 percent discount at a certain day ,most people could pick out the one they want instead of getting frustated and muing their gear

[Mirza7 235]

If I understand right, you are suggesting that:

- All 98 Product kits are made available In exchange for crystals with discount.

- Time: Event days.

- Duration: One day.

I add:

+ Price of equipment must not increase in exchange for this. 

+ Player is allowed to buy only one Product kit per event.

+ discount must not be less than 20%.

[sharifsahaf 656]

21 minutes ago, Mirza7 said:

If I understand right, you are suggesting that:

- All 98 Product kits are made available In exchange for crystals with discount.

- Time: Event days.

- Duration: One day.

I add:

+ Price of equipment must not increase in exchange for this. 

+ Player is allowed to buy only one Product kit per event.

+ discount must not be less than 20%.

yes. except the buying one product kit part.even if u buy two ,u can use only 1 at a time ,the rest are accurate .this is exactly what ive been trying to explain

[printing_now 59]

I was just thinking, why can't they just go back to rotation...
It's very frustrating just trying to get a crystal kit, not going to lie.

One moment, you have enough crystals but not the right kit... while the next, you have the kit in shop, and not enough crystals. Very annoying.

[sharifsahaf 656]

aight guys heres a suggestion i made which would simply solve all of these probs

[KiNG-AFG 10]

Please add a option where you can choose to purchase stuff using GEL. ( Georgian Lari ). I am pretty sure that after Russia Georgia plays TO most. Also please add TL ( Turkish Lira ) too. There are a lot Turkish players aswell

 

[799169 48]

This is about part payment of kits using tankoins, and the remainder through crystals.

 

Hypothetical example just to illustrate idea (I'm keeping numbers small to make the math easy):

Suppose there is a kit which has price in shop = 10 tankoins, and price in crystals = 1000.

But I have only 4 tankoins. So I pay these 4 tankoins, that completes 40% of the payment for the kit.

Now I need to pay for 60% of the kit remaining.

Thats a price of 600 crystals = 60% of 1000

Tanki charges a commission / premium for the crystal payment, say  of 50%, and in total I pay 4 tankoins + 900 crystals to buy the kit.

(900 = 600 + 50% of 600)

So instead of 10 tankoins / 1000 crystals, I pay 4 tankoins + 900 crystals for the kit.This hybrid offer could be made available maybe once per week or month. Right now, its practically impossible to for non-buyers to get a kit of their choice in a reasonable amount of waiting period.

Lower premium percentage than 50% and more frequent availability of this payment feature would be more beneficial for non-buyers, but devs can decide on the specific numbers.

Note: This idea can be extended to other shop items, which have both tankoin and crystal price tags.