Let's Discuss Updates!

[Room418 67]

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One day there was a simple tank game, where you could get exact equipment modification with exact rank.

Came update with kits, where you could get stuffs one rank before.

Than came update with MUs, where you could update each of the all settings for turrets and hulls, paints.

Than came update with Premium account, which basicly gives a speed up and "special"

Than came update where you can only update MUs all together.

Now comes kits, where you can get all M2 modifications already in beginner ranks.

 

All these new updates are going to one target - pay-to-play. 

So, nobody havent noticed that this all goes to pay-to-play game, cause I see that money in there accounts are going really much, because the Semiblablabla is happy as .... ?

 

Ofcourse, there is a lot of other updates like anti-cheat system, which still doesnt work, updates about new look in garage, cleaned battle list out of lame names of battles and so on. But you guys havent seen one thing - none of these updates havent improved games perfomance. It almost eats 1GB of RAM, you cant play on Max graphics with simple GeForce 700, 800, 900 series cards with any glitches, players are still lagging a lot and so on.

 

In each contest they give things like new paints, which you can buy with a lot of crystals and than they take that paint away. Just like that - you spend hours to get 5k or 10k or 20k crystals, you but that paint, which will be in your garage for couple of dats, and they take it away just like that.

 

 

[Maf 32,308]

Just like that - you spend hours to get 5k or 10k or 20k crystals, you but that paint, which will be in your garage for couple of dats, and they take it away just like that.

You know nobody is forcing you to buy that paint, right? And it's not like they said that the paint will stay in your garage forever only to secretly remove it later... Can't afford it - don't buy it.

Besides, they don't take it away for nothing. They give your crystals back to players, who chose the winning team. So you basically lose crystals to other players, not have them just taken away by developers.

 

Anyway, what is this topic even for? If you want to discuss the controversial topic along the lines of "Tanki devs are forcing money out of players", then we already have topics made for that kind of discussion. If you want to discuss updates in general - please edit the first post to make it unbiased.

[Schroedinger_Cat 38]

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One day there was a simple tank game, where you could get exact equipment modification with exact rank.

Came update with kits, where you could get stuffs one rank before.

Than came update with MUs, where you could update each of the all settings for turrets and hulls, paints.

Than came update with Premium account, which basicly gives a speed up and "special"

Than came update where you can only update MUs all together.

Now comes kits, where you can get all M2 modifications already in beginner ranks.

 

All these new updates are going to one target - pay-to-play. 

So, nobody havent noticed that this all goes to pay-to-play game, cause I see that money in there accounts are going really much, because the Semiblablabla is happy as .... ?

Every game which is not brand new (TO is 7 years old!) needs some mechanisms to make chasing old players by new players easier. Otherwise the new players will feel that they cannot achieve anything, because old players will always have a huge advantage, and quit. TO devs cannot make equipment too cheap, because nobody would spend $$$ on the game and they need some $$$ to maintain the game. Somebody must pay for the electricity. The developers need to earn $$$ for their living. That's how all free-to-play games work - basic functionality is for free, but if you want to have everything, you need to spend $$$. IMO, TO has not the worst solutions. Premium account speeds up ones progress, but doesn't give much advantages over others in battle. The premium paint might be good on very low ranks, but at medium and higher ranks is not that great. You can compete with "buyer players" if you plan your progress and spend crystals efficiently. Drugs might be an issue, but there were some updates (daily missions, mission chains) that provide us tons of free drugs. There are many contests, where everybody can take part in and earn a big pack of crystals.

Edited July 4, 2016 by Schroedinger_Cat

[Room418 67]

You know nobody is forcing you to buy that paint, right? And it's not like they said that the paint will stay in your garage forever only to secretly remove it later... Can't afford it - don't buy it.

Besides, they don't take it away for nothing. They give your crystals back to players, who chose the winning team. So you basically lose crystals to other players, not have them just taken away by developers.

 

Anyway, what is this topic even for? If you want to discuss the controversial topic along the lines of "Tanki devs are forcing money out of players", then we already have topics made for that kind of discussion. If you want to discuss updates in general - please edit the first post to make it unbiased.

 

 

Who mensioned that it will be removed secretly? Paint stays until 11th july. Like in that topic is told. 

 

(IMPORTANT: These paints will be available in the game for a limited time only and will be removed from ALL garages on July 11th.)

 

 

 

Every game which is not brand new (TO is 7 years old!) needs some mechanisms to make chasing old players by new players easier. Otherwise the new players will feel that they cannot achieve anything, because old players will always have a huge advantage, and quit. TO devs cannot make equipment too cheap, because nobody would spend $$$ on the game and they need some $$$ to maintain the game. Somebody must pay for the electricity. The developers need to earn $$$ for their living. That's how all free-to-play games work - basic functionality is for free, but if you want to have everything, you need to spend $$$. IMO, TO has not the worst solutions. Premium account speeds up ones progress, but doesn't give much advantages over others in battle. The premium paint might be good on very low ranks, but at medium and higher ranks is not that great. You can compete with "buyer players" if you plan your progress and spend crystals efficiently. Drugs might be an issue, but there were some updates (daily missions, mission chains) that provide us tons of free drugs. There are many contests, where everybody can take part in and earn a big pack of crystals.

 

Well, these updates asks tooo much money now, cause kits gives M2s 3 ranks before actuall rank, premium account ofcourse, but game perfomance isnt enough good to spend money on it so much. 

 

If we talk about improving and how old is that game, than basicly Wolrd Of Tanks are in almost in the same age as Tanki Online. Difference in crews dont know, but how they have made that game like a bomb in these 7 years is soooo awesome. o.O

[Maf 32,308]

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One day there was a simple tank game, where you could get exact equipment modification with exact rank.

Actually...

 

One day (before 2012) there was a simple tank game, where new equipment unlocked so quickly that it was impossible to buy it all in time, so in the first 15-20 ranks the winners in every battle were only buyers, who purchased crystals and got the best equipment before any normal player could have a chance to save up for it. Not to mention that the supplies did not have cooldowns so free players were never able to compete with buyers, who could afford to use 100s of supplies in an hour (when the average player received about 40 per day).

 

So thanks to the rebalance and smart cooldowns updates, buyers today have a much smaller advantage.

 

 

Who mensioned that it will be removed secretly? Paint stays until 11th july. Like in that topic is told. 

Exactly. So what's the problem with those paints then?

[Schroedinger_Cat 38]

Well, these updates asks tooo much money now, cause kits gives M2s 3 ranks before actuall rank, premium account ofcourse, but game perfomance isnt enough good to spend money on it so much. 

A non-buying player can now afford M2 and M3 kits right when they are unlocked [color-orange]if plays smart[/color]. Many players do not play smart and waste their crystals on  buying multiple M1 turrets and hulls. Well, if you want to have everything, you must pay. Otherwise nobody would pay a penny. I agree that it is hard to save up for most M1 kits, but you can alwys go to another battle. There are not many buyers at low ranks.

[NewbieCake 3,067]

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You have to realize that Tanki has also catered to non buyers as well, making it easier to gain crystals.

 

1.) Daily Missions (I'll use the abbreviation DM from now on), I remember back when Daily Gifts were around, it was pretty rare to get crystals as a Daily Gift, now a days with DMs, the odds of getting a crystal mission are pretty high.

 

And not the mention Premium Account isn't OP - at all. Players with it only earn .5x more crystals - hardly a difference, especially since most Premium players play regularly, ranking up quite fast. If you log onto Tanki and just complete your DMs then log off, you can actually have a better garage than a Premium user. (eg. http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/total_drama07/, a player who only logs on for DMs, doesn't buy crys, but overall has an excellent garage, almost with M4 Mammoth).

 

As for M2s in the early ranks - as previously mentioned, you can just log onto Tanki and complete DMs, you'll earn a lot more crystals in the long run than playing 24/7! Take a look at this profile: http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/lukey0_mr.goldie/, like the previous account, doesn't buy crystals, just logs on and complete DMs, then off for the day. This account has 2 M2 kits and is only Captain!

 

And the DM Tournament update is coming sometime soon. One can gain almost 3k crystals for only 46 destroys, compared to a regular DM, which would only give about 440 crystals (depends on rank),  that's ridiculous! Again proving my point that crystals are getting easier to earn.

 

For the paint part, if it's too much for you - don't purchase it. Simple.

 

My advice to you is the same as I've said many times, just log on, complete DMs, log off. Soon you'll be able to afford some decent equipment, and will be able to compete with buyers. And participate in contests!

 

If you don't believe me, just look at my alts:

 

-http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/150010836/ - only bought once for b-day, even then you can probably afford this garage by this rank with  WISE fund management.

 

-http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/newbiecupcake/ - 0 crys bought, won one contest, and bought one kit (Fighter). Currently reside at 35k crys, and I even bought the paint. So if Germany wins, I'll have 55k.

Edited July 6, 2016 by NewbieCake