Control Points Issue

[tony990_Superstar 68]

Hello fellow Tanki members,

 

Recently I partook in a Control Points battle in the Polygon map and noticed that we were trailing with 30 seconds to go after leading around 85-90% of the match. I believe that this new Control Points format in which the team without the point loses points is unfair and is getting in the way of those of us who rightfully win Control Points battles. I understand not wanting the other team to leave, but when the lead can be reversed in a matter of seconds after leading by over 30 points, it becomes a bit ridiculous.

 

I'm hoping that others can agree with me that this style of play is not rewarding those who try their hardest for the entirety of the battle, but rather those who try their hardest in the last few minutes and are mediocre the rest. I included a poll for others to express their opinion and decide whether or not this style of play in Control Points should be revoked or kept the way it is.

 

Thank you for your time, I'm hoping that this issue is handled with appropriately and is not overlooked. I believe that making it so people don't quit when they are losing is fine, but doing this is taking it to an extreme.

 

Thanks again,

-tony990_Superstar

[MiR4cUl0uS 815]

I don't agree.

[tony990_Superstar 68]

I don't agree.

 

Total disagree, though the last part is somewhat true.

Could you explain? I mean it really is unfair the way a team that's trailing by 50 can make a miraculous comeback and win in the final two minutes of the battle while the team that deserved to win was leading a majority of the time for the other thirteen twenty-eight or even fifty-eight minutes.

[tony990_Superstar 68]

They were gone in sleep, simple.

It shouldn't matter though, the dominant team through thirteen minutes tried harder and yet they still don't win because they lost practically a point every three seconds while their opponent gained one every five seconds for the past two minutes? It doesn't seem like the better team wins in that case.

[tony990_Superstar 68]

It does, pls, stop crying because you lost because you didn't wanted to play for 5 more minutes when you already did for 10 and you were in lead. Just for free Crystals huh? The update is for this, that if a team stops every effort in 5-2 minutes, some raiders can join and make a take over or even the enemies can do. May I ask if someone has been playing for sooo long and they just stop for 5 whole minutes just 'cause they are in lead? Hhh stupid reason for a win.

No, we didn't stop playing completely, you are misunderstanding. The opposing team attacked all at once at got the point. But they shouldn't be able to win in two minutes when we had the lead for thirteen. It just shows that you can sit there for practically the entire battle and do nothing and then with two minutes to go swoop in and win. It's unfair and I suggest if you are going to use that attitude with me you go take out  your aggressions elsewhere.

[NamesAreForNoobs 324]

If more people felt this way, then maybe they could reduce the point loss, but this was the way to fix the mode and noone else feels like you do.

Tanki implemented this because it was impossible to come back some times, now it is possible, but not more than. If you completely dominated for the first 13 minutes, the game would have ended because of 100 point limit.

[tony990_Superstar 68]

If more people felt this way, then maybe they could reduce the point loss, but this was the way to fix the mode and noone else feels like you do.

Tanki implemented this because it was impossible to come back some times, now it is possible, but not more than. If you completely dominated for the first 13 minutes, the game would have ended because of 100 point limit.

So then playing Control Points is pointless then? It doesn't matter how good you are for a majority of the match, if one team starts to drug and win with 120 seconds to go it's possible?

 

Now I see why I left Tanki the first time...

[tony990_Superstar 68]

Block me, you aren't a moderator to tell me where to write and where to not. I am not breaking rules. Please, then cry this elsewhere. They showed team effort, they capped point, they deserved the win. End of story, you lost you didn't deserve it simple.

1. So the team that dominates most of the game just doesn't get any credit because their opponent started drugging like crazy and capturing the point? At least make the crystal rule fair then, so the team that dominates 13 minutes of the game isn't stuck with 12 crystals and 700 points (hypothetically speaking)

 

2. You really need to calm down. I'm not telling you where to write, I'm saying that you should chill, because your attitude isn't appreciated here. If you can't have a simple discussion without turning it into an argument, then I recommend you see a psychiatrist or someone that can  help you.

 

3. I highly recommend you visit this website:

http://www.grammarbook.com/

[THE.LAST.AVENGER 585]

it's simple to win poly cp :D

go to point and take double armour and be at it and use repair kits :D if your team do this in the end of the match then they will surely win.

or is it so that i play with brigadiers who drugs a lot :P :ph34r:

[tony990_Superstar 68]

Are you a statue? Who doesn't does anything and don't know anything? And something important, Drugging isn't against Game Rules, stop saying that again and again that " The opponent started drugging crazy blah blah and I lose cry, help plz this isnt fair ".

I'm not saying it's against the Game Rules, you need to read what I'm saying. I am saying that because the opponent drugs like crazy in the last 2 minutes why should that give them the win when the other team dominates most of the game.

 

 

I am not calming down, and except for you, who said shut up or stop such attitude?

I'm saying you need to calm down and justify your case appropriately and not spit back fire. If you're going to debate, do it like a man, not a twelve-year-old child.

 

 

You can prevent them from happening by making a lead of 300 points and the enemies at 100 with 2 minutes left. No take over team will be able to turn around the match outcome.

Except, that is still possible. The larger your lead is the quicker your score goes down I have noticed and the quicker THEIR score goes up. I get they want to make it fair, so that each battle goes down to the wire, but do they really have to make it so that even if you are one point away from winning (again, hypothetically speaking) with two minutes to go or even 90 seconds that your lead can be diminished and despite your effort throughout the battle, you still lose in the last 90 seconds? Wouldn't it just be better to end the battle earlier if the opponent is getting beat really badly?

 

 

I highly recommend you keep your recommendations of such sites away from me.

I highly recommend using good grammar then  :) or at least so that what you are saying is more understandable.

[Maf 32,300]

The reason CP mode is made this way is to make it more intense, so that the result is almost never predictable and any team can come back from a loss. That way both teams will keep fighting hard until the end, instead of just giving up and leaving halfway into the game when they see that their opponents are getting a lead. You lost because your team probably relaxed and assumed their victory, so the enemies got the upper hand. In order to win you have to dominate the battle throughout the whole game, otherwise you lose like you did.

 

P.S.   Please keep on topic. No more of that grammar insult talk.

[oOo.Aryan.oOo 968]

Disagree from this topic and first of all learn skills and static of CP Mode.

[shallumsamuel 99]

Are you a statue? Who doesn't does anything and don't know anything? Why are you behaving so dumb? And something important, Drugging isn't against Game Rules, stop saying that again and again that " The opponent started drugging crazy blah blah and I lose cry, help plz this isnt fair ". I am not calming down, and except for you, who said shut up or stop such attitude? You need to see a doct' 'cause your eyes cannot see really good as the CP update is mainly for take overs. You can prevent them from happening by making a lead of 300 points and the enemies at 100 with 2 minutes left. No take over team will be able to turn around the match outcome. I highly recommend you keep your recommendations of such sites away from me.

I agree with you.

[shallumsamuel 99]

I'm not saying it's against the Game Rules, you need to read what I'm saying. I am saying that because the opponent drugs like crazy in the last 2 minutes why should that give them the win when the other team dominates most of the game.

 

 

I'm saying you need to calm down and justify your case appropriately and not spit back fire. If you're going to debate, do it like a man, not a twelve-year-old child.

 

 

Except, that is still possible. The larger your lead is the quicker your score goes down I have noticed and the quicker THEIR score goes up. I get they want to make it fair, so that each battle goes down to the wire, but do they really have to make it so that even if you are one point away from winning (again, hypothetically speaking) with two minutes to go or even 90 seconds that your lead can be diminished and despite your effort throughout the battle, you still lose in the last 90 seconds? Wouldn't it just be better to end the battle earlier if the opponent is getting beat really badly?

 

 

I highly recommend using good grammar then  :) or at least so that what you are saying is more understandable.

 You are not here to Yell someone so please maintain with what you talk.

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

Hello fellow Tanki members,

 

Recently I partook in a Control Points battle in the Polygon map and noticed that we were trailing with 30 seconds to go after leading around 85-90% of the match. I believe that this new Control Points format in which the team without the point loses points is unfair and is getting in the way of those of us who rightfully win Control Points battles. I understand not wanting the other team to leave, but when the lead can be reversed in a matter of seconds after leading by over 30 points, it becomes a bit ridiculous.

 

I'm hoping that others can agree with me that this style of play is not rewarding those who try their hardest for the entirety of the battle, but rather those who try their hardest in the last few minutes and are mediocre the rest. I included a poll for others to express their opinion and decide whether or not this style of play in Control Points should be revoked or kept the way it is.

 

Thank you for your time, I'm hoping that this issue is handled with appropriately and is not overlooked. I believe that making it so people don't quit when they are losing is fine, but doing this is taking it to an extreme.

 

Thanks again,

-tony990_Superstar

Were you subject to a take over by a clan or something like that?  Take overs are an absolute bane and can catch even experienced players out.   Your team doing very well for the larger part of the game and then suddenly something happens, like a switch.  You may have the odd player on your own team not pulling his weight and the other team is replaced bit by bit with clan members or they just change accounts.  As you team starts to loose heavily you players start to leave and are replaced with duds from the clan.  the result is the clan makes huge amount of crystals.  the lead players in your own team don't want to give up they have faith and an investment in the game.

 

What you  and others can do is, not to play in games longer than 15 minutes because that attracts the clan because it will make big wining.  Also try to be aware of any changes in the way the game is going.  Their are usually the odd one or two players who use a lot of supplies/drugs but that evens its self out and the occasional one is not a problem but if one team is very much more reliant on them, it could be a clan.  Just leave as soon as their is a pronounced change because you will not win against them.  They are better armed drugged and usually play as a team with strict control and unless you and your friends are the same, you will loose every time.  the best thing is change servers because sometimes they follow players around.

 

These take overs can be very sophisticated.  The clan team will go to extreme lengths to set up games for the unwary.  They will place weak team members on a side and you come along thinking hey this is OK, then after time the take over takes place.  Another trick they do is load one side up with a large numbers.  How can they do that you say?  Well they load both sides to keep sides even, then withdraw one side.  Those that withdraw go on to plague other games. They can go on for hours at a time like this.  It is how they pay for their expensive paints, mu etc or rather you pay for them.  It is usually the top 2 or 3 players on the Clan side that make the crystal stash because often they expect allegiance from their membership.  Clans can act like real virtual life gangsters.  Their will now be string of denials but many who have been here a while have seen or suffered at one time or an other. :angry: :( :angry:

Edited July 7, 2016 by ELIZABETH1122

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

I was subjected to a take over this am.  I unusually played a team game CP for the tasks.  Fortunately I had by far the largest payout but my side lost.  After completing I just went back to my normal preference, DM.   The other strange thing just previous to that was I had sporadic visits and on one occasion my opponent went to sleep and I duly obliged by shooting him upping my count.  Then Gold box siren sounded.  All a bit strange as their was only me and this sleeping victim. :D :lol: :)

[HaloScorpionV2 438]

Its not an issue. I once beat an opposing team 242-240 in the last 10 mins of the game. I was trolling the entire 60 min match until the last min, and came back from a 200 point deficit. XD

Edited July 7, 2016 by HaloScorpionV2

[TTK_229 1,080]

No, we didn't stop playing completely, you are misunderstanding. The opposing team attacked all at once at got the point. But they shouldn't be able to win in two minutes when we had the lead for thirteen. It just shows that you can sit there for practically the entire battle and do nothing and then with two minutes to go swoop in and win. It's unfair and I suggest if you are going to use that attitude with me you go take out  your aggressions elsewhere.

I am a clan member with this guy, so he flames a lot. I think that the pro lem is that it disappears too fast. But this is more to a case of you whining than anything else.

[DESTROYER_13 1,019]

Once upon a time, I was winning a Polygon CP 60 mins (kinda dominating) and 2 druggers joined. They were also buyers, the best equipment possible at that rank, from kits. They took the lead and won in the last few minutes, maybe 10 minutes or so, and we lost after all of that hard work. I felt cheated.

 

I got over it, you should too.

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

Were you subject to a take over by a clan or something like that?  Take overs are an absolute bane and can catch even experienced players out.   Your team doing very well for the larger part of the game and then suddenly something happens, like a switch.  You may have the odd player on your own team not pulling his weight and the other team is replaced bit by bit with clan members or they just change accounts.  As you team starts to loose heavily you players start to leave and are replaced with duds from the clan.  the result is the clan makes huge amount of crystals.  the lead players in your own team don't want to give up they have faith and an investment in the game.

 

What you  and others can do is, not to play in games longer than 15 minutes because that attracts the clan because it will make big wining.  Also try to be aware of any changes in the way the game is going.  Their are usually the odd one or two players who use a lot of supplies/drugs but that evens its self out and the occasional one is not a problem but if one team is very much more reliant on them, it could be a clan.  Just leave as soon as their is a pronounced change because you will not win against them.  They are better armed drugged and usually play as a team with strict control and unless you and your friends are the same, you will loose every time.  the best thing is change servers because sometimes they follow players around.

 

These take overs can be very sophisticated.  The clan team will go to extreme lengths to set up games for the unwary.  They will place weak team members on a side and you come along thinking hey this is OK, then after time the take over takes place.  Another trick they do is load one side up with a large numbers.  How can they do that you say?  Well they load both sides to keep sides even, then withdraw one side.  Those that withdraw go on to plague other games. They can go on for hours at a time like this.  It is how they pay for their expensive paints, mu etc or rather you pay for them.  It is usually the top 2 or 3 players on the Clan side that make the crystal stash because often they expect allegiance from their membership.  Clans can act like real virtual life gangsters.  Their will now be string of denials but many who have been here a while have seen or suffered at one time or an other. :angry: :( :angry:

Hello,

 

Even 15 mins battles Polygon CP can be rigged in last 5-6 mins... B)

Then they all leave like the stealth mode on. :ph34r:

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

Hello,

 

Even 15 mins battles Polygon CP can be rigged in last 5-6 mins... B)

Then they all leave like the stealth mode on. :ph34r:

I know, your right.  I have seen them on 15 minute games but they prefer longer game.  You are also right they do disappear in a blink a lot faster that they arrive.

[Hex 11,520]

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