Paint Separation Update

[theFiringHand 21,351]

My suggestions about the update (once the technical difficulties are solved):

 

1. Reduce the price for paints. I couldn't care less about looks, but still 100-500K for paints with no protection is simply wrong.

I've forwarded that feedback already.

 

 

2. Don't sell paints in the kits. Sell protection modules. Tankers need discounts on protections that suits the turrets/hulls,

Will be addressed in next week's kits. 

 

 

3. Add an M1/M2/M3 protection against railgun which has only 10% for XP/BP players

 

Will be taken into consideration.

 

4. Give back the premium users the protection for those who already bought it. They paid for it. You can remove the protection if someone buys a premium account after the update.

Will pass on the feedback. 

 

5. The R button is far from the ZXC keys. If someone uses the arrows to navigate and ZXC to align his turret, then the "R" key is a bit far. You should add the "V" key which will work the same as R.

Makes sense. Will pass on the feedback. 

[alphatankdestroyer 0]

I like how Picasso is only 65k as I personally think its really good looking. but the rest are like 300k lol.

[dinek789 45]

one of the best updates so far im loving it,great job devs

[ash77710 288]

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Edited July 14, 2016 by ash77710

[toysarecool 1]

I find it a bit unfair for me now because i have been looking through all the modules, and a fairly large amount of them seem to have isida protection now. i find it a problem because that is my main gun because i have 28/50 for micro-upgrades right now, and with all of these new modules a lot more people are going to have isida protections and it will be a bit unfair for me because that 28 micro upgrade against the protected hulls will basically make it disappear and make it's more than 110k spent on it useless, and those people that have the protection will spend less than me and make my turret useless in the process.

[araba15 4]

sorry tanki but it sucks #noobupdate

[delnina2 1,570]

Guys,

 

Bear with me, it's really hard to keep up with all the posts coming in. By the time I read one page, another 5 sprout  :D

 

Help me out here. I need to figure out EXACTLY what you like and what you dislike about this update.

 

• Do you like the idea of being able to use any paint pattern with your preferred Protection Module? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"
• Do you like the idea of being able to see your opponent's protections? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"
• Making protections visible takes away the element of surprise to an extent. But do you feel it could potentially open up new aspects of game play? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"

Also, in VERY BRIEF point form, what else do you love or hate about this update. Just write a brief point and write "Love" or "Hate" at the end.

 

Please, help me help you. I can't read 97 walls of texts. It's bad enough i have to deal with the huge emails @Issho_Fujitora sends me  :D

Really ? these are your question. Those are closed questions. 

 

A good question is Do you like this update ? Yes or No. ----> My answer No.

[Bydo 20,121]

Cedreic Debono

Hope u dont mind what i m saying

When semyon is manajor, all things are going right,there r lots of people who play tanki with fun and interest

but when u come , all things r going in to destruction, daily lagging, many servers are empty because many players leaves tankionline

and now this update? 

now when i open the main page just 15000-30,000 peoples r playing tankionline

in old days there are 60,000-100,000 peoples play tankionline

now just think what your staff is doing

Goodluck

i'm sorry your so wrong just look back in July of last year when the re balancing started and other things .. more mods and good players left and now you're blaming a new Cm when he has little control over what Dev's do .. Cedric is just a person who relays the info from other departments to the players and staff .. please learn what a Customer manager does so you will understand his job better.. these issues have always been here .. the dev's were all ready working on this back in Oct 2015 Cedric was a staff member working behind the scenes in tanki until Seymon left in March or about that..

 

sorry .. i have no intentions of provoking anyone

[Rabinson41 3]

this is one of those update in which tanki's update couldn't live up to the expectations of tankers. SO embarrassing!!!!! Hate you tanki. I really want you to remove this update, i was fine the way it was

[Satans-Rotweiler 45]

How do they do it? Is it a natural ability or is it something that can be learned?

 

No matter how many updates that there are, when I think that the cheater and mult update must be next because what else is there to focus on? Tanki goes and pulls another rabbit out of the hat.

 

It is impressive, I really did not see this one coming, totally blindsided me. As a mere mortal I looked at the garage and thought that maybe a quick selection option might have been in the works, so instead of leaving a battle I could pick a shortcut option for changing equipment. That is the only garage issue I had heard people discuss. I think it is impressive that no matter how many ideas or solutions put forward by the playing community to enhance gameplay, Tanki always manages to think of something that no one else thought of. To fix something that the simple players did not realise needed fixing.

 

Splitting the paints into two separate options,  protection and colour, It is amazing, I can only imagine what tanki headquarters is like with the ideas and the brainstorming sessions they must have.

 

Rather than being perplexed or angry, I am impressed. Ingenuity has always been something I have admired.

 

My only fear is that with the new update there will be a swarm of players returning this weekend which could overload the servers. Please ensure you are ready for their return.

 

My one word of caution though, be careful that Tanki has not shot itself in the foot with this new update, after all with the new version coming soon it would be a shame if people were reluctant to move because of this recent update.

 

High fives all round.

[ash77710 288]

light format is ruined 

[pokemonclub34 3]

Sorry but according to me this is the ' The Actual tankipocolypse ' this is the apocalypse for real its destroying the tanki culture and roots i can't believe mary is 100k what the hell i cant believe this , this update has to go otherwise tanki would be destroyed forever ,

I'm sure this update will go like the gold update this lasted for like only 1 month ,

According to me the worst update for paints but the status showing for tanki by key ' R ' is nice,

But this paint update sucks , according to me .

[yash2012 131]

Noob update.... Its just useless....

It not good and game have started lagging too much toooo muucchhh.....

Tanki plss remove this update

[Supernatural 2,053]

Cedric, I'm not stopping until you reply too all these, one by one.
 
1. This update completely ruins balance-Buyers already had an advantage and that's fine. But there were combos like Twins+Fire which people couldn't protect from. And now it's gone. Buyers have just became invincible.
2. XP/BP in the future is ruined. No more 10% rail paint, those who didn't buy Emerald, Corrosion or Forester in the past will have to play without protection.
3. Light Format (if you even know what it is) is ruined. The 46% Rail and the 48% Smoky paint made it right balanced. And guess what? It's gone.
4. The game is more complicated. If you tell me that you know how much protection do these players have here, I will give you a cookie. And adding an extra key is something that everyone wanted to avoid.
5. Kits are ruined. Look at this. On that rank, 115k for hammer and hornet :lol: Alien is literally doing nothing but raising the price by 60-70k.
6. None of the old LGC modules are working. I just joined an XP battle with my Prodigi module (46% rail protection), and it let me join but I did not receive any protection. Also, I get one-shot with my m3 Wasp with 10% module equipped. Both proves that in fact, the LGC modules do not give protection.
 
And I will make one for the money-orientated devs:
1. Non-buyers or those who spend less money on this game will quit Tanki as we stand no chance in normal battles from now on. My garage was really decent, full m3, all the good paints and MUs on everything. But it's all useless now.
2. Buyers will buy most of the modules. And then what? If all of them buys the modules, it's like none of them bought anything.
3. Buyers will stop buying as it's not needed anymore.
4. Buyers will quit Tanki as there will be nobody to defeat.

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

They will not remove the update regardless of how many votes it gets. Trust me, they put in a lot of thought into this and the only reason it's getting negative feedback is because people are used to the old methods and enjoy hating Tanki so much, that they dislike the update without even stopping to think if it could be good or not. People are just afraid to try new things and that's what hinders progress in the game's development.

They wont back down on it because taking a view and a consensus of opinion is just not in their DNA!  Their has been plenty of other unpopular updates and we just received the same undulant response.  This is by far the worse update full stop.  Their should be no surprise by our reaction, it has been coming for some time. Their have been plenty of threads condemning this in advance Being asked to keep cool and be with me on this by admin is not very helpful.  people are extremely angry because nothing has been done to solve the main problems within the game, multing, bullying, bad language hacking, LAG, LAGand yet mmore LAG.  Ridiculously lenient punishments, that is if tanky bothers to take evidence.  Why should we the paying players solve bad play.  Instead of producing this money grabbing rot get your developers to sort it out to make taking evidence easier by making video evidence taking part of tanki!  We should not have to deal with 3rd party software take ages to film and present only for it to be rejected.  It is utterly frustrating here!

 

Senior players have in some instances literally spent £ thousands, on buying and updating specialist paints.  Many of these paints will now be outdated poor in comparison to new paints. Senior players that have stood by this game for years showing loyalty helping out and what do they get?  A slap in the face.  They will be expected to pay out for a complete new set of paint or be slaughtered by junior ranks. 

 

If players have bought the very best paints prior to update in good faith, then any of those paints that do not reach 50% in any particular area should now have the facility to continue on updating until they reach 50% in each parameter, so that previous very expensive paints can go past the original floor until they reach 50%, 50%, 50% and something suitable done for 4 protection paints. 

[Relate 714]

Guys,

 

Bear with me, it's really hard to keep up with all the posts coming in. By the time I read one page, another 5 sprout  :D

 

Help me out here. I need to figure out EXACTLY what you like and what you dislike about this update.

 

• Do you like the idea of being able to use any paint pattern with your preferred Protection Module? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"
• Do you like the idea of being able to see your opponent's protections? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"
• Making protections visible takes away the element of surprise to an extent. But do you feel it could potentially open up new aspects of game play? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"

Also, in VERY BRIEF point form, what else do you love or hate about this update. Just write a brief point and write "Love" or "Hate" at the end.

 

Please, help me help you. I can't read 97 walls of texts. It's bad enough i have to deal with the huge emails @Issho_Fujitora sends me  :D

> No

> No

> No

 

More important is that the update has been introduced without a regard for balancing, essentially destroying the viability of light format and hard format.  If for example in noise, one uses smoky and vulcan (which originally had no paint from both, a tactical choice) buyers can now have protection from everything with both legacy and new models.  Remove the new models and balance the game again.

[Rabinson41 3]

Guys,

 

Bear with me, it's really hard to keep up with all the posts coming in. By the time I read one page, another 5 sprout  :D

 

Help me out here. I need to figure out EXACTLY what you like and what you dislike about this update.

 

• Do you like the idea of being able to use any paint pattern with your preferred Protection Module? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"
• Do you like the idea of being able to see your opponent's protections? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"
• Making protections visible takes away the element of surprise to an extent. But do you feel it could potentially open up new aspects of game play? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"

Also, in VERY BRIEF point form, what else do you love or hate about this update. Just write a brief point and write "Love" or "Hate" at the end.

 

Please, help me help you. I can't read 97 walls of texts. It's bad enough i have to deal with the huge emails @Issho_Fujitora sends me  :D

Do you like the idea of being able to use any paint pattern with your preferred Protection Module? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"

yes

 

Do you like the idea of being able to see your opponent's protections? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"

no

 

Making protections visible takes away the element of surprise to an extent. But do you feel it could potentially open up new aspects of game play? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"

no

 

Also, in VERY BRIEF point form, what else do you love or hate about this update. Just write a brief point and write "Love" or "Hate" at the end.

Hate

[brucey_the_light 0]

This update is very good to the game however there are some flaws, like now the clay paint costs 10 crystals but it requires generalissimo rank to buy, and kits should now include a turret, a hull, a paint, AND a protection module.

[Bydo 20,121]

Really ? these are your question. Those are closed questions. 

 

A good question is Do you like this update ? Yes or No. ----> My answer No.

he just wants to get to what we really want to see come out of all these complaints and what the main issues are so he can sort it out..

and he did ask questions..

 

for most of the players are complaining about the cost

the upgrade cost

the tier system some are just confused //

 

 

like i was in the early parts then its more the other two issues im not impressed with and premium paint 15% removed

[jjg_the_dark 455]

ha ha nice update. Not only we have to spend an exorbitant amount of money for protection and paints that do nothing, now in the middle of the battle I just get a blank screen! The incompetence of the Tanki programmers at its glory! Never mind that the lag is getting worse and I get a 500 ping! All that on a 150 mbps connection with a XEON processor and an NVidia card! Keep up the good work tanki developers. You sure do know how to screw up a good game! Keep on screwing up, never mind the players. What do they know, right?

[Apolloold 333]

cedric, take a hint and remove the update please. I know you wont, but please.......

[GuardiaN375 86]

Remove premium and refund my money if you're not going to put back the 15% protection on it no use at all

[beaku 2,656]

Guys,

 

Bear with me, it's really hard to keep up with all the posts coming in. By the time I read one page, another 5 sprout :D

 

Help me out here. I need to figure out EXACTLY what you like and what you dislike about this update.

 

• Do you like the idea of being able to use any paint pattern with your preferred Protection Module? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"
• Do you like the idea of being able to see your opponent's protections? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"

   

  Yes

   

• Making protections visible takes away the element of surprise to an extent. But do you feel it could potentially open up new aspects of game play? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"

   

  Yes, definitely.

Also, in VERY BRIEF point form, what else do you love or hate about this update. Just write a brief point and write "Love" or "Hate" at the end.

 

 

The fact that paint no longer equates to protection is good. Seeing the opponent's protection is also good to an extent. Although, I doubt it'll help much in a fast paced gameplay. Overall, love it! :D

 

 

Please, help me help you. I can't read 97 walls of texts. It's bad enough i have to deal with the huge emails @Issho_Fujitora sends me :D

I know what you mean.. :c

[Super-System 5]

So out of curiosity, can you share the financial projections that will show when tanki will run out of money?  My bet is that in just under two years, this game will cease to exist.  Updates like this, with increasing fractured and inflated pricing of components of the game are usually an indication of severe financial distress for the parent company, and I'd like to know just how long I can expect to see tanki available.

 

As to specifics of the update:

(1)  It's an interesting idea, but by restricting protection modules to pre-set combinations kind of defeats the purpose.  Most tankers believed that one would be able to choose any three protections for a combination.  While there are a variety of combinations, there is almost no explanation about why some combinations are unavailable nor how those combinations would upset game balance.

 

(2)  While I am sure there was a massive change in code, it seems the roll-out has pretty much overwhelmed your antiquated servers.  Games were the laggiest I have seen in _years_ and many people could not open garages much less join matches.  Perhaps you really should invest in upgrading your servers.  Make the game playable, so players can see if they like it.

 

(3)  Pricing.  Are you guys modeling pricing on Zimbabwean inflation?  Or are you relying on a class of players with far more money than brains to just shovel in rubles to make their tanks "pretty" and to buy all the upgrades?  It's rare to see such unadulterated greed in the open market, but it's even more rare to see it succeed.  I hope you are investing your own money wisely, as I cannot see your current pricing scheme as being sustainable.  Do you have market research?

 

(4)  Any chance your developers will ever fix the shaft bug? The uncontrollable spinning on spawn?  Is it not important enough or is it too hard?

[Bydo 20,121]

This update is very good to the game however there are some flaws, like now the clay paint costs 10 crystals but it requires generalissimo rank to buy, and kits should now include a turret, a hull, a paint, AND a protection module.

its always has had it .. but now with the protection being separate we now get to choose which package of protection we want to use .. even thou its set package is the same..