Paint Separation Update

[theFiringHand 21,351]

Really ? these are your question. Those are closed questions. 

 

A good question is Do you like this update ? Yes or No. ----> My answer No.

I'm just trying to narrow it down, that's all. It's impossible to keep track of all the text in all these pages. I need to condense it into point form, THEN I can elaborate on it.

[Frozen 10]

i hate the new update the entire game is lagging, my garage isnt loading, and what the heck is the point of the premium and x2 funds if this game is gonna lag. .  .im just saying that ever since the update i think this game went from 8/10 to 4/10 so cedric i hope you can do something to fix all this ( + the new update is confusing )

Edited July 14, 2016 by Frozen

[AverageDavelaar 89]

Servers are now officially laggy! 500-950 ping

What about permium? worst update ever remove this update!

Not to mention servers also take like 4 minutes to load..

[MyOnlyPepsi 2]

Guys,

 

Bear with me, it's really hard to keep up with all the posts coming in. By the time I read one page, another 5 sprout  :D

 

Help me out here. I need to figure out EXACTLY what you like and what you dislike about this update.

 

• Do you like the idea of being able to use any paint pattern with your preferred Protection Module? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"
• Do you like the idea of being able to see your opponent's protections? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"
• Making protections visible takes away the element of surprise to an extent. But do you feel it could potentially open up new aspects of game play? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"

Also, in VERY BRIEF point form, what else do you love or hate about this update. Just write a brief point and write "Love" or "Hate" at the end.

 

Please, help me help you. I can't read 97 walls of texts. It's bad enough i have to deal with the huge emails @Issho_Fujitora sends me  :D

1. No.

2. Yes.

3. No.

Edited July 16, 2016 by MyOnlyPepsi

[geoff121 0]

First impressions - really bad! It is all very confusing to be honest, we have had no information about how to use them really so we are just being left to guess. I personally didn't see the problem with the paints as they were before - why change something that was great as it was!? And these new updates have caused a hugeeee amount of lag. Tanki - please sort it out, its terrible! :-(

[ajitvik 231]

people resist change!

[dude64050 0]

ok, this update has some major problems. #1: the price of paints. I am not going to spend 500,000 crystals to buy a skin which now only changes the look of my tank and does not offer ANYTHING helpful! I could buy an XT M3 for that same price! i think tanki really needs to lower the price of paints, because all they are now is simply skins. #2: Get rid of the displays showing what protection you have!! part of the fun of tanki is not knowing what equipment other people have. The first battle I joined after the update was a kungur DM and had people teaming up to kill me first before they killed each other, simply because I didn't have protection from their turrets. I think this update could have been amazing but NO! You did this to get more money claiming it was for the players benefit. IT'S NOT! Basically all of the good tanki players that don't buy, HATE THIS UPDATE! I say, fix it or remove it tanki

Edited July 14, 2016 by dude64050

[Lhamster 4,081]

• Do you like the idea of being able to use any paint pattern with your preferred Protection Module? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"
• Do you like the idea of being able to see your opponent's protections? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"
• Making protections visible takes away the element of surprise to an extent. But do you feel it could potentially open up new aspects of game play? Just quote this line and say "Yes" or "No"

Also, in VERY BRIEF point form, what else do you love or hate about this update. Just write a brief point and write "Love" or "Hate" at the end.

Yes

 

Yes - we knew before what protections someone had by the pattern, so this changes nothing. (Though you do have to press 'R' and look, as opposed to instantly knowing.

 

No - as above, its like before.

 

Not enjoying 40 new things I could buy that cost 250k, that's 10 million crystals. Some offset by all the legacy protections I have though. Also means you can have whatever combo of protections you want, in some ways that's great, in others its not, before you had to make do with what was there, and that element of the game has been taken away.

 

Liking that I can use Microchip with protections now, special paints can actually be used in proper battles.

Edited July 14, 2016 by Lhamster

[Adel 567]

I'm just trying to narrow it down, that's all. It's impossible to keep track of all the text in all these pages. I need to condense it into point form, THEN I can elaborate on it.

hi buddy from what i have been reading what i got is most of the people are not understanding the update and well almost no one likes the new prices i mean 500k for zeus just looks impossible so i guess maybe consider the paints prices ?

[RIDDLER_8 5,552]

Please understand that the "DM Tournament Update" and "Paint Separation Update" triggered lots of bugs and glitches in Tanki Online.

 

You folks must complain about this issue in the forum as well, and let the developers of Tanki online fix all those bugs and technical glitches as soon as possible.

 

I hope that the next V-Log (V-Log Episode 99) shall discuss and mention all of the bugs ans glitches that Tanki Online now have because of those two big updates.

 

1. DM Tournament - Update

 

2. Paint Separation - Update

 

Those two updates are big, were long to make, but caused a huge series of technical problems in Tanki Online, plus, huge lag, slow loading of battles and crashes.

 

Tanks also cannot re-spawn and players get removed from battle due to inactivity.

Edited July 14, 2016 by RIDDLER_8

[Rabinson41 3]

i haven't seen a single post till now that says good about this update (only looked at some pages, not all)

[jjg_the_dark 455]

Cedric, I'm not stopping until you reply too all these, one by one.

 

1. This update completely ruins balance-Buyers already had an advantage and that's fine. But there were combos like Twins+Fire which people couldn't protect from. And now it's gone. Buyers have just became invincible.

2. XP/BP in the future is ruined. No more 10% rail paint, those who didn't buy Emerald, Corrosion or Forester in the past will have to play without protection.

3. Light Format (if you even know what it is) is ruined. The 46% Rail and the 48% Smoky paint made it right balanced. And guess what? It's gone.

4. The game is more complicated. If you tell me that you know how much protection do these players have here, I will give you a cookie. And adding an extra key is something that everyone wanted to avoid.

5. Kits are ruined. Look at this. On that rank, 115k for hammer and hornet :lol: Alien is literally doing nothing but raising the price by 60-70k.

6. None of the old LGC modules are working. I just joined an XP battle with my Prodigi module (46% rail protection), and it let me join but I did not receive any protection. Also, I get one-shot with my m3 Wasp with 10% module equipped. Both proves that in fact, the LGC modules do not give protection.

 

And I will make one for the money-orientated devs:

1. Non-buyers or those who spend less money on this game will quit Tanki as we stand no chance in normal battles from now on. My garage was really decent, full m3, all the good paints and MUs on everything. But it's all useless now.

2. Buyers will buy most of the modules. And then what? If all of them buys the modules, it's like none of them bought anything.

3. Buyers will stop buying as it's not needed anymore.

4. Buyers will quit Tanki as there will be nobody to defeat.

Good luck with that!  By the time he gets to your thread to reply, half the tanki players will be gone.  After all he is the one who told us that he did not know about the prices before hand!  So, either he is lying or tanki keeps their community managers in the dark. either one is bad. Selling paints that do nothing and cost 250,000 crystals? Selling protection that no too many can afford? Do you really want us to take these kind of stuff seriously?  Tanki is becoming just a joke.

[arinnjay 8]

The game is lagging a lot though !! My teammates and I couldn't even acess the garage for a point of time and it was the same even for my teammates at the same point of time

[Sean.S 84]

After the update why is it so laggy and the paint system sucks now its so confusing and premium paint is dead. also big paints like clay are only 20k or something like that why not just keap them the SAME!!

[a7x_Pedro48 13,999]

 

5. The R button is far from the ZXC keys. If someone uses the arrows to navigate and ZXC to align his turret, then the "R" key is a bit far. You should add the "V" key which will work the same as R.

Twice, I typed on 4 instead of V, so I used 2 Nitro for nothing lol.

[delnina2 1,570]

I'm just trying to narrow it down, that's all. It's impossible to keep track of all the text in all these pages. I need to condense it into point form, THEN I can elaborate on it.

True, Your traget was great and blessed. You really listen to us and give us atention which is amazing and unsual. 

 

I would suggest to make a poll that will show the player's attitude. 

Edited July 14, 2016 by delnina2

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

Cedric, I'm not stopping until you reply too all these, one by one.

 

1. This update completely ruins balance-Buyers already had an advantage and that's fine. But there were combos like Twins+Fire which people couldn't protect from. And now it's gone. Buyers have just became invincible.

2. XP/BP in the future is ruined. No more 10% rail paint, those who didn't buy Emerald, Corrosion or Forester in the past will have to play without protection.

3. Light Format (if you even know what it is) is ruined. The 46% Rail and the 48% Smoky paint made it right balanced. And guess what? It's gone.

4. The game is more complicated. If you tell me that you know how much protection do these players have here, I will give you a cookie. And adding an extra key is something that everyone wanted to avoid.

5. Kits are ruined. Look at this. On that rank, 115k for hammer and hornet :lol: Alien is literally doing nothing but raising the price by 60-70k.

6. None of the old LGC modules are working. I just joined an XP battle with my Prodigi module (46% rail protection), and it let me join but I did not receive any protection. Also, I get one-shot with my m3 Wasp with 10% module equipped. Both proves that in fact, the LGC modules do not give protection.

 

And I will make one for the money-orientated devs:

1. Non-buyers or those who spend less money on this game will quit Tanki as we stand no chance in normal battles from now on. My garage was really decent, full m3, all the good paints and MUs on everything. But it's all useless now.

2. Buyers will buy most of the modules. And then what? If all of them buys the modules, it's like none of them bought anything.

3. Buyers will stop buying as it's not needed anymore.

4. Buyers will quit Tanki as there will be nobody to defeat.

Nonsense. Lion T-A,B & Badger M3 has protection from Twins/Fire.

Edited July 14, 2016 by Phoenix.Rising

[Adel 567]

and dear Cedric u might want to consider pick up people to represent the community to make easier for u to reach everyone

[beaku 2,656]

So out of curiosity, can you share the financial projections that will show when tanki will run out of money? My bet is that in just under two years, this game will cease to exist. Updates like this, with increasing fractured and inflated pricing of components of the game are usually an indication of severe financial distress for the parent company, and I'd like to know just how long I can expect to see tanki available.

There were similar reactions during 2012 economy change. Many though Tanki will be dead within a year. Here we are.

 

As to specifics of the update:

(1) It's an interesting idea, but by restricting protection modules to pre-set combinations kind of defeats the purpose. Most tankers believed that one would be able to choose any three protections for a combination. While there are a variety of combinations, there is almost no explanation about why some combinations are unavailable nor how those combinations would upset game balance.

Isn't it obvious how certain combinations on certain maps will be too overpowered? The number of combinations available now is exponentially higher than what we had before. It's definitely an improvement

 

(2) While I am sure there was a massive change in code, it seems the roll-out has pretty much overwhelmed your antiquated servers. Games were the laggiest I have seen in _years_ and many people could not open garages much less join matches. Perhaps you really should invest in upgrading your servers. Make the game playable, so players can see if they like it.

I agree with you on the lag. The good thing is that I got a Gold because everyone else lagged out... XD

 

(3) Pricing. Are you guys modeling pricing on Zimbabwean inflation? Or are you relying on a class of players with far more money than brains to just shovel in rubles to make their tanks "pretty" and to buy all the upgrades? It's rare to see such unadulterated greed in the open market, but it's even more rare to see it succeed. I hope you are investing your own money wisely, as I cannot see your current pricing scheme as being sustainable. Do you have market research?

Um.. What? I have no problem paying 100k for 25% protection from three turrets. In fact, it's more or less similar to what we had before. If you're referring to the paints, they're basically cosmetics now. Just like XT weapons (which cost 500k too, btw). It's not for all players. Just something rich players can spend on and stay exclusive. The prices for protection modules might be a 'bit' too much, especially at lower ranks, but it's nothing too unaffordable.

 

(4) Any chance your developers will ever fix the shaft bug? The uncontrollable spinning on spawn? Is it not important enough or is it too hard?

[Benefactor 6,888]

• Do you like the idea of being able to use any paint pattern with your preferred Protection Module? YES

• Do you like the idea of being able to see your opponent's protections? NO

Making protections visible takes away the element of surprise to an extent. But do you feel it could potentially open up new aspects of game play? NO

[slycleaversmart 1,154]

Who will pay your salary once all the buyers have left?

XD

Will be taken into consideration.

Your a tottal dweeb!

[SnowWhiteKing 1,372]

the hearts on the right side O.o u guys r all aliens

Don't mess with master.  :D  B)

[Jessie_thecool 0]

cedric 

 

plz delete this update 

 

paints are too high priced and no one will buy them and if people spent real money on getting prem account u just ruin it for them and people are starting to leave the game 

 

thanks 

:D

 

[TheRollingSlab 803]

Well, in that case... Here I go.

 

>>Here are some ideas to improve this update.<<

 

Paints which haven't been purchased by a player yet, should have a fixed look with a fixed module just like before this update and THE PRICE SHOULD BE SAME as before the update. After buying the paint, a player will get a separate Module and Paint to use it the way they want.

 

 

For protections display, above every player should be the MODULE NAME. (like Needle or Zeus)

And there should be small icons displaying protections when a special key is pressed.

*(Only default protections should be shown, not the upgraded ones)

 

For XP/BP Players, there can be an empty module or a BP Module specially for XP/BP.

XP Module for Hornets, BP Module for Wasps (10% from Rail) So that XP/BP players can use their custom look in format battles which won't effect the gameplay.

 

New modules should be updated with some new paints too, or they can be purchased separately from the "Modules" tab in garage. Their price should be reduced too if they don't get a good paint/look with them. Coming up with an update of some awesome looking new paints and modules won't be a bad idea either.

 

Create a new topic for ideas for improvements for this update.

That's it for now, suggest changes to my ideas if you have any in the new topic.

 

* I'm trying as much as possible not to change the game experience.

 

Hope these ideas will help. :)

Agree with everything you said but your last point. The first one I highly agree with.

[jjg_the_dark 455]

I'm just trying to narrow it down, that's all. It's impossible to keep track of all the text in all these pages. I need to condense it into point form, THEN I can elaborate on it.

Narrow down to what exactly? Seriously, you want to tell us that you did not know what the reaction of the community would be?  Do you live under a rock or something?  These are some of the same comments that people who tested this made except now they are more!  Perhaps your communication with the developers needs to improve a bit.  You should have anticipated the backlash for the pricing alone that is the major sticking point here. Isn't that narrow enough for you? Oh, i forgot, you did not know right?  Again, your communication with the developers or whoever runs this circus needs to improve.