Paint Separation Update

[Fuel 1,877]

 

Do me a favor and read this, and reply to every single thing please.

1. This update completely ruins balance-Buyers already had an advantage and that's fine. But there were combos like Twins+Fire which people couldn't protect from. And now it's gone. Buyers have just became invincible.

Hardly. But, I guess we'll have to wait more to see effects on game balance.

 

2. XP/BP in the future is ruined. No more 10% rail paint, those who didn't buy Emerald, Corrosion or Forester in the past will have to play without protection.

As Mafioso said, you now get protection automatically upon entering an XP/BP battle regardless of the paint you use.

3. Light Format (if you even know what it is) is ruined. The 46% Rail and the 48% Smoky paint made it right balanced. And guess what? It's gone.

Those modules are still available. You can upgrade the 35% protection to 50%

 

4. The game is more complicated. If you tell me that you know how much protection do these players have here, I will give you a cookie. And adding an extra key is something that everyone wanted to avoid.

Just don't press R key. We did fine without it before. It's more of an occasional convenience now. Anyway, you can identify players who have protection against your turret much easily and that's what matters

5. Kits are ruined. Look at this. On that rank, 115k for hammer and hornet :lol: Alien is literally doing nothing but raising the price by 60-70k.

Please read the FAQ post. New kits will come out soon.

 

6. None of the old LGC modules are working. I just joined an XP battle with my Prodigi module (46% rail protection), and it let me join but I did not receive any protection. Also, I get one-shot with my m3 Wasp with 10% module equipped. Both proves that in fact, the LGC modules do not give protection.

I played XP/BP all day today. Never once saw anyone getting one shotted. Also, as I said above, you automatically get protection according to your hull so obviously your 46% protection module will be deactivated.

 

7. The game is way more complicated. Previously, if you looked at a tank you saw what weapons does he have protection from. Now I need to use the dumb R key to even figure which module he is using.

Why do you even want to know that? If he has protection against you, it'll show up next to his name.

 

And I will make one for the money-orientated devs:

1. Non-buyers or those who spend less money on this game will quit Tanki as we stand no chance in normal battles from now on. My garage was really decent, full m3, all the good paints and MUs on everything. But it's all useless now.

I disagree. But, I think you wouldn't want to hear this from a 'low ranked player'.

2. Buyers will buy most of the modules. And then what? If all of them buys the modules, it's like none of them bought anything.

Didn't the same problem exist before when buyers could buy all the paints?! Hardly any argument in relation to this update

3. Buyers will stop buying as it's not needed anymore.

Hahaha... There are many paints which will now be exclusive to rich players (majorly). Of course they will buy. They buy XT's, don't they?

4. Buyers will quit Tanki as there will be nobody to defeat.

lol

 

A big reply coming to ya lol

[Fuel 1,877]

Nice ...  :D

[Redlinezak_EN 83]

Have not read through all 100 pages but there are multiple issues with the game right now - it is unplayable.  Keep getting kicked out of matches, if i get into a match there is huge lag, cannot load garage and if it does load and i change equipment then go back to the garage and it has not changed.

 

Regards the actual update - im not a fan

[Scorpenstein 159]

So since when did paints like Zeus cost the same as an xt? The much more prized possession. This seems very interesting right? Oh as well as that since when did protections become less expensive than a paint?  It seems illogical to me and many others as well!  The main problem is why should paint, an aesthetic which is just used for covering a designing a tank, cost more than something which is going to protect it.  Tanki I do believe you haven’t thought this one through and I would like to put down a few a suggestions to why you should change this update. But first let’s explain why we the players of tanki think this is a bad update.

 

Reason 1 - Money

So, many people know tanki, players to buy crystals and to buy products in the game. As the recent months go by, tanki has offered more chances for people who buy crystals (buyers) for example, Premium accounts. This has taken away things such as score multipliers from the users of tanki and just given it to people who give you money, surely this is just money making scheme, just to fill the pockets of you the tanki online team.   This is bad for the majority of tanki as we don’t spend money on pixels, but then we have the buyers who spend lots of money who get everything and enjoy the easy life of tanki while we the true members who actually play the game and work hard, to get small amounts of crystals can't buy one single product as it is too expensive!!!! This is extremely  disappointing as tanki is becoming a buyers game and therefore only people who spend money, will be at the top yet the people who actually play the game, won’t be able to do anything. If Tanki continues to like this, I’m definitely sure people will be leaving the tanki community and therefore you will lose more income than making profit. But who cares right? You guys are making money at the end of the day so why should you care about what the tanki community thinks, the people who are actually giving you the money in the first place.

 

Reason 2 - In Game currency

So, 500k crystals is already hard to get and this is why only xt products in the paint cost so much! Once you implemented this new game system, paints costs the same price and now has become even harder to get, this is just simply ridiculous and un reasonable. Many of my friends have complained to me and others about how ridiculous the prices are, this means only buyers can buy these products. As well as this how on this good earth can something which protects a tank, something which gives you a in game advantage cost less than something which just makes a tank look nice. Doesn't makes sense Tanki staff :(  In addition to this in the garage, the costs of kits will go up and therefore people won’t be able to afford these kits again, this just doesn’t seem fair and I suggest you change this feature and make the tanki economy massively unbalanced.  But who cares right? You guys are making money at the end of the day so why should you care about what the tanki community thinks, the people who are actually giving you the money in the first place.

 

Reason 3 – Tanki X

As a part of the community, my friends and I strongly believe you are trying to kill tanki online as you know that people won’t move to tanki x as many people have worked hard to get to higher ranks, get the equipment they have now and also build relationships with people which are unforgettable. The friendships that I have built here cannot be built again as not everyone I know will play tanki x. To be honest, tanki x has amazing graphics and is optimized well but it is quite boring as it does not have all the features of tanki online, also it is easier to access tanki online as it is on a web browser where as tanki x will require a start up of the programme itself. But before that people will have to download it but many people won’t be able to. But who cares right? You guys are making money at the end of the day so why should you care about what the tanki community thinks, the people who are actually giving you the money in the first place.

 

Finally I would just like to finish on something off topic, the relationship between the tanki staff and the tanki community has developed a widening gap between both parties. There have been many reasons for this one being that there is no visual person to view in the v-log, the v-log presenter. The presenter adds a visual aid which is like the manager of tanki is actually talking to us. When the new v-logs came in it was disappointing as there was just an image of game play which we see when we play the game anyways. The v-log presenter makes a huge difference! In addition, many of my fellow tankers believe that the tanki staff does not care and only wants the money. They believe that the tanki staff don’t even read what we write or ask you to change, and frankly I believe this to. Please try and build that bond back with the community and the helpers again as this will make tanki great again. But who cares right? You guys are making money at the end of the day so why should you care about what the tanki community thinks, the people who are actually giving you the money in the first place.

 

Here are a few resolutions which would help make tanki great again.

-          You can still keep the update but lower the prices of paints! It simply doesn’t make sense that a visual affect costs more than an in game advantage.

-          Or to restore the balance in the game currency, make funds higher so that crystals are easier to obtain. This would allow players to be able to get equipment at a normal rate

-          Talk to the community, the tanki staff are hidden, and is disappointing to see that the community is slowly dying.

-          Just remove the update, you tried it but it didn’t work. We all make mistakes but its okay we are all human and this issue can be resolved.

But who cares right? You guys are making money at the end of the day so why should you care about what the tanki community thinks, the people who are actually giving you the money in the first place.

 

Only you the tanki staff can make the difference. So why not make tanki great again?

 

ALL OF THIS. If you missed this post read it now 

[ZivOfficial 290]

So Many Comments to this topic.... :D

[AbsoluteAlphaZero 2,027]

It would be much easier if we could see the stats when pressing V Guys try it out!

[O.S.A.N 714]

guys since the new micro-upgrade system update has been introduced in 2015 and the game is going backwards, this sucks please restore some old stuff -___-

[r_Mr.Rules1 12]

I always wanted to play with Taiga , Loam, etc...

I bought them, everything is alright

But

500k for Zeus only without any protection from any gun? Are you kidding me?

750k totally for Zeus ONLY

The names of the protections kits, has no sense

 

And how about that they just reduce cost of paints?

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Yet this is illogical:

 

+= 459 900

 

= 500 000

Railgun + Hornet M3 Both = Costs less than 500k, i buy xt fire or wasp better than zeus without protection

 

I like to combine look with protections. Finally I can play with tundra, haven't used it in ages.
=> yes
Do I like to see MUs and protections?
As a railgun user, I often steal kills. I knew about all rail protecting paints, their max. MUed protections. I also knew most of paint's protections, so I could determine, when is someone one-shot :D Now I have all those protections and upgrades shown, but I need to analyse numbers instead of instinctive "that viking with racoon will never be a one shot". I like to see protections from the coating rather than some numbers and check them all the tíme. + the menu is often not good visible, annoying. I want to see tanks, pay attention to game, not to disturbing panels. It's not a bad idea, but we could live without that :P
=> kind of yes, however I liked the old way
New aspect? No. Just time spent figuring out the protections.
=> no new aspect
As I have already suggested, change "r" function. Press r to show upgrades and protections and hide them by pressing r. It does not have to be r, "v" looks even better.
And change protections of award paints back. 2% may seem ridiculous, but it's 2% from all turret and mines, which makes 22%.
Having helper with 20% would be great, but I would never feel good and enjoy same protection as those, who placed second in championship. 18% is good, no more, no less.
Bring back old special paint's protections.

I loved how you described your skills etc..

Any tanker can join with Green paint but with Prodigi protections, who knows? For example, a major joins against Generalissimos, and he has only m2 railgun in his garage, and he doesn't know how to see how much the enemy has protection, wait this is what Wiki made for, roflmao, what if he doesn't knew anything? LMAO

As you can see, most of the comments are mad, sad because this update, so what do you think? Many people are upset and others are about quitting, so.. Tanki losses 100%

Believe me, cedric has nothing to say, i bet tomorrow they will change or delete this update

[O.S.A.N 714]

I think this game is about to say good bye to us all.. they made the price of paints with no protection at all around 500k and then protections can be bought separately.. it sounds like they can't make enough money.. game came to an end

i think the project will fail -_-

[DESTRUKCO 51]

Man, this update sucks.

[saad455 70]

i wish the old game return .

what is this people roming with zeus i am not killing them coz i know they are 50% but hey w8 with this new apdate that zeus is actulally using savana it mean he is playing a game with name guess what protection i have  . very funny. .i got it its a troll :angry:

Edited July 14, 2016 by saad455

[The-Littel-Prince 208]

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[Benastankist 0]

What kind of update is this? I think Tanki Online is doing a pretty risky thing by making prices a lot higher, this is very dangerous for the game, since it can lose a lot of players, but the most interesting thing is that the prices are high because they want to keep the game balance, don't you think that making the prices higher would ruin the game balance instead? I think the reason that they made the prices so high was because they want us to buy crystals for real money, and now everyone knows that they won't buy crystals everyday. If Tanki Online wants to keep it's balance like Mad_Geniu5 said they should lower the prices, in fact the prices were much better before the update, and if Tanki Online in the future keeps the prices high, I imagine they would have a huge dent in their player 's popularity list + I think it's unfair that the chat moderators are banning people for saying their opinions about the update, this is like crazy because they don't want to hear bad things about the update, only good things, and this is not fair for lower rank tankers because they have to struggle to get their most wanted turret or weapon upgraded.

[Redlinezak_EN 83]

I hope the servers get fixed before the double battle fund days as otherwise it kind of renders it useless.

Tanki must be able to see these issues - just close the servers , suspend the chains and get it working or just revert to the code that was used 1 week ago when all was well and good.

[Moraine 5,877]

Talk to the community, the tanki staff are hidden, and is disappointing to see that the community is slowly dying.

I don't know which staff you're actually talking about, chat mods are all in the open, always were... same goes for my forum colleagues. 

[Try_To_Beat 16]

[FaKe.NooB 422]

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[Supernatural 2,053]

 

Do me a favor and read this, and reply to every single thing please.

1. This update completely ruins balance-Buyers already had an advantage and that's fine. But there were combos like Twins+Fire which people couldn't protect from. And now it's gone. Buyers have just became invincible.

Hardly. But, I guess we'll have to wait more to see effects on game balance.

Trust me, it will.

 

2. XP/BP in the future is ruined. No more 10% rail paint, those who didn't buy Emerald, Corrosion or Forester in the past will have to play without protection.

As Mafioso said, you now get protection automatically upon entering an XP/BP battle regardless of the paint you use. He was wrong. Many BPs reported getting one-shot.

3. Light Format (if you even know what it is) is ruined. The 46% Rail and the 48% Smoky paint made it right balanced. And guess what? It's gone.

Those modules are still available. You can upgrade the 35% protection to 50% LF is played without MUs. If we enabled MUs, the game would be different again because of the difference in MUs of Smoky, Rail, Needle and Prodigi.

 

4. The game is more complicated. If you tell me that you know how much protection do these players have here, I will give you a cookie. And adding an extra key is something that everyone wanted to avoid.

Just don't press R key. We did fine without it before. It's more of an occasional convenience now. Anyway, you can identify players who have protection against your turret much easily and that's what matters Experienced players already knew the protections for most of the paints (the often used ones).

5. Kits are ruined. Look at this. On that rank, 115k for hammer and hornet :lol: Alien is literally doing nothing but raising the price by 60-70k.

Please read the FAQ post. New kits will come out soon. Yeah, maybe it will be solved.

 

6. None of the old LGC modules are working. I just joined an XP battle with my Prodigi module (46% rail protection), and it let me join but I did not receive any protection. Also, I get one-shot with my m3 Wasp with 10% module equipped. Both proves that in fact, the LGC modules do not give protection.

I played XP/BP all day today. Never once saw anyone getting one shotted. Also, as I said above, you automatically get protection according to your hull so obviously your 46% protection module will be deactivated. Answered above.

 

7. The game is way more complicated. Previously, if you looked at a tank you saw what weapons does he have protection from. Now I need to use the dumb R key to even figure which module he is using.

Why do you even want to know that? If he has protection against you, it'll show up next to his name. Tanki is a team game. a team works well if people know who to kill and who can they count on. Imagine the following: there are 2 defenders: A Twins and a Firebird. The opponent is using Lumberjack paint with Inferno module. The Fire will see 30% above his tank and he will think he is actually using Lumber. The Twins will see 10% and he will hardly have any idea on what paint is the opponent using. 'Then why doesn't he presses the R key', you'd say-maybe because there's no time for that when you are being attacked by 3 people from 3 directions?

 

And I will make one for the money-orientated devs:

1. Non-buyers or those who spend less money on this game will quit Tanki as we stand no chance in normal battles from now on. My garage was really decent, full m3, all the good paints and MUs on everything. But it's all useless now.

I disagree. But, I think you wouldn't want to hear this from a 'low ranked player'. Not all useless but they are definitely less useful.

2. Buyers will buy most of the modules. And then what? If all of them buys the modules, it's like none of them bought anything.

Didn't the same problem exist before when buyers could buy all the paints?! Hardly any argument in relation to this update As mentioned above, there were combos like Fire+Twins, Fire+Vulcan, Twins+Rico, Isida+Rico etc from which, regardless of how much you spent on game, you couldn't get good protection. Now these are gone.

3. Buyers will stop buying as it's not needed anymore.

Hahaha... There are many paints which will now be exclusive to rich players (majorly). Of course they will buy. They buy XT's, don't they? After some time, they will stop. But this is not the main point anyway.

4. Buyers will quit Tanki as there will be nobody to defeat.

lol

 

[adem_2011 170]

Hopefully I have all the paints I wanted. But playing today sucked with that update.

Why? Here is why

 

 

I entered the game where many players joined together. I had no idea what protections they had on.

I press "R" keep pressing but guess what? I have only two hands.. How am I supposed to turn my turret and tank and move forward and backward to avoid cross fire while I'm pressing and holding "R" ?

 

once I chose the protection of Prodigy and put Africa paint on. Hammer was hiding at the corner, although I had no protection :)

 

The only positive thing was that funny actions of players who had no idea what protection I had on :)

 

I'm sure, many of you have tried.. how did it worked for you trying to hide and shoot, while pressing "R" ?

Before it was simpler.. You see the paint, you know what protection it has. You act according to the paint

 

And now?

 

Now you press "R" and you see all players update, which is actually good. But that's all.. You have to memorize those signs, pictures of guns so that you know what protection a tank has. And of course let's not forget when those informations of tanks are mostly into one another.. one information of a tank might be seen on another information of another tank because of their movements. it's kind a difficult to read and they are not standing still, you know

 

 

Result.. Not a satisfactory update

 

But no wonder. They need money.. Understandable.. Updates are therefore

I feel it has come to and end and soon this will be history

[Mr.71 123]

Cedric I think the main problem here is all the lag and removal from battles, think it needs to be sorted first before such a big update can be launched.

 

To get into the map drive around and find out what protection everyone has take to much time then working out what module to use and load, people knew  what protection everyone had by paints it was easy to know and change accordingly.

 

In a battle of noise I had to get in to enemy base and press R look and try to take in what everyone had and change, the time it took for this to happen i was killed, so had to be killed to gain this info. Was much easier to do before as you could just tell by sight and keep playing.

 

You can't play and kill why pressing R and taking in any info you need.

[Guest]

I don't know which staff you're actually talking about, chat mods are all in the open, always were... 

[Mr-Dzz-Men 3]

What the hell!
I've read the complete update of your's and understood it completely. I'm playing TO since 2012 and according to me, this is the worst update I ever saw in TO. I don't think players would be able to use the button "R" while battling because they have to use druggs, control turret, control hull, and many other things to see, they have to chatt!
Please I'd like to kindly request Tanki Online to reverse this update, it'll bring no advantage but will bring a negative affect on players while battling.
Many are out their talking about this update negatively, visit different groups and see it yourself!

[AbsoluteAlphaZero 2,027]

SCR*W this Update  |  Some Tanki YouTubers are leaving aswell!

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8W3eum5cWuY&feature=youtu.be

[donaldo9000 1,342]

 

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Guess what came after that..

[The-Littel-Prince 208]

every 1 hatye this new update and they know its sucks  

tanki we love you but this time you sucks 

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