Paint Separation Update

[Bydo 20,120]

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Edited July 18, 2016 by frozen_heart

[slycleaversmart 1,154]

So If you buy a house with an acre of land, you get everything on that land right? So a few days after you own it, the old owner comes and takes the house, cause "there was never supposed to be a house here" even though he didnt tell you that before you purchased it. Pretty evil guy right? You still have the acre of land, but you payed for the house as well so shouldnt you get it? My point is, that 15% protection was part of the deal, you cant just steal it from people who bought premium.

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[googlefighter 3]

Ok thanks for having me here. I am googlefighter, I'm not sure I'm in the right place but any ways all about liking Tanki stuff! Oh yes I do like the new update about protection where tankers can use prodigi in XP/BP battles without protection. But I just not sure I like how you can see other tankers protections. I don't want others to know how low my protection is. I do not wish to know other's protections.

 

Thank you googlefighter always

[Guest]

Your proof of this is from a forum link that you couldnt even find, My evidence shows what we get when we purchase AFTER these posts. if your agrument was valid the the announcement that i have sceenshots of dated 20.10.15 should say the protection is only temporary but it doesnt it states what we get when we pay for this item.

 

All announcements are made to us players on the homepage or vlog not hidden in a forum post. 

Hi,  been following the arguments about this whole 2015 announcement, and I do have to side with you on the fact that your arguments are based on the official announcements made back then, while my homeys were referring to a devs' very unofficial post on the matter a good while back.

 

To be fair to them though, they actually meant to point out that the volatile nature of this premium protection even at the time of launch.  I don't think they did good job at that though :blush:  but hey, they aren't doing bad either :)  By that I mean they forgot to point out that premium wasn't always 15% since launch.  It was actually more than that, and because there were some massive protests back then, it was reduced to 15% as a better compromise for all sides.  And this, along with other examples like that, + with some jargon from the eula will tell you that these things are prone to changes at any time and so on and we could go on debating about just that and make another 200+ pages topic on the forum just for discussing that bit.

 

But this doesn't really get us anywhere.  Right now all community managers have taken note of the issue with premium.  I myself personally raised that issue up on the very moment we saw the announcement, a few other colleagues did as well, and I can assure you that the message has been delivered and there will be some decision made about it very soon.  There is no fixed timeline for this though, so please don't ask about that.  And what will the outcome be?  We don't know either.  We'll all find out together, in a few days hopefully.

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Never seen that one before :lol:

Posted 16 Jul 2016 - 01:17

lordmostafa, on 15 Jul 2016 - 21:02, said:

2.3.23. Creating topics and/or messages in the Game’s Chats and/or Forums that are Flaming (“arguing for the sake of arguing”, an exchange of messages that is just a war of words, often bearing no relation to the original cause of dispute);

 

wow interesting when players are just talking and in the correct section ..mods turn around and throw rules out for what reason.. this i want to know.. when all along we have talked about premium accounts and other  issues about this new update..

 

not provoking anyone

My most sincere apologies for this one.  It was very uncalled for and please understand some minds got heated up over the past 24 hours, from both camps, and out of pure exhaustion.  Hard days for all tankers, not just players, but helpers, community management as well as developers. 

 

We just spoke about it a few minutes ago and our friend now understands that these "arguments" were not the actual malicious flaming for which he misinterpreted them, and I can assure you there was no malevolent intentions behind that warning.  We've talked it out and I'm confident all sides will be able to discuss freely, as long as all the discussion keep on being conducted in respectable manner and in regards to our usual rules.

 

Now lets get back to the real discussions, shall we :)

[lordmostafa 3,821]

@ @DejectedTomato

I'd like to sincerely apologize for my behavior during the last couple of hours. I now realize that I had no right to quote on a developer's buried post as you said, and you do have a very valid argument and I was made aware of it. I just got a bit frustrated and it sort of showed in my posts. I was only trying to help, but after 160 pages of it I just forgot what I was here for, and I assure you that will not happen again. I hope this clears out any hard feelings I might have raised and that you accept my apology.

[LeIouch_Vi_Britannia 6,163]

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May i question the buried post part?

Even if it was buried or burned or whatsover, it is still a post, posted by Hazel himself,

Ok it was kinda unofficial and buried i see the point, but being unofficial or buried or all that doesnt change the facts do they?

 

Its just a matter of time, which time has passed since both the official announcements or the unofficial

buried post, devs opinions dont change on un/official things imo, as its what was said anyways

[Guest]

Wow. You just told me to deal with it. What a stupid, moronic, immature thing to do when having a reasonable, adult discussion. You are a forum moderator in support of the community? Well that's just a joke. Way to alienate the people that pay for the existence of Tanki. 

 

And no, I don't remember when it was added because I didn't play 8 months ago. Don't make assumptions. Tanki sold me something that included protection. You keep making the argument that premium players complained that they couldn't use the paint because it didn't have protection. So what? Why didn't you get rid of the paint instead of adding protection? That's not here or there because that decision was made in the past and there's not send arguing over what happened 8 months ago.

 

What you just did was insult someone that has put a reasonable amount of money into this game across multiple accounts because I enjoyed the game and thought that it was fair for me to put some money into it. Now you are so callous to tell me to deal with it. What a childish slap in the face that was. Thanks Mafioso for showing me and other premium tankers how little the you and the devs actually care about the people helping to keep you in business.

 

And let's not forget how awful the lag is. I would love to talk about that but you'll be quick to tell me it's someone else's problem. If you are going to represent Tanki in this forum, take accountability for everything.  Otherwise, stop asking for feedback and stop telling us we don't deserve something we paid for.

 

Much like P_U_N_I_S_H_E_R, I have said my peace and no longer have the energy or inclination to discuss this any further. 

Like in my previous post above, my apologies for the poor choice of words from our respectable colleague.  We discussed about it and I can assure you that "deal with it" wasn't intended to come across as a classic meme style "screw you deal with it" kind of post.

 

Quite the contrary.  It was meant as a friendly "what can i say, we might as well start getting used to it" advice.  But hey, I think our friend now understands that choice of words are a very important thing, specially when dealing with hot issues such as the current one.  

 

Now as for the premium issue at hand, like I said in my previous post right above, your message and that of all those in the same regrettable situation as you has been heard and has been reported much higher up in the chain of tankionline's house.  Right now I can't make any statements of what they'll decide about it other than acknowledge that they've heard you.  We'll have to wait and see and keep a close eye on all upcoming official announcements.

[Guest]

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May i question the buried post part?

Even if it was buried or burned or whatsover, it is still a post, posted by Hazel himself,

Ok it was kinda unofficial and buried i see the point, but being unofficial or buried or all that doesnt change the facts do they?

No, they don't really change the facts, and that's exactly what I'm pointing at and exactly what @DejectedTomato has respectfully been pointing at.

[Cyborg 3,189]

This topic is getting a little hot in terms of us players and helpers. 

Why not discuss in peace. If you can't control your anger, refrain from hurrying into a post until you calm down and make a sensible reply.

[BLOODY-DRAGON 0]

Hello,

 

By pressing (and holding) "R" you can view your opponent’s technical details. But I find it difficult to move my tank using 'WASD', changing camera angles 'Q' & 'E', AND viewing stats by pressing 'R' - all done simultaneously. Here are my ideas:

 

  -add a checkbox in the settings menu to automatically display stats

  -add a SIZE option to increment/decrement size of stats to (eg. low|med|hi)

  -add a separate key that is easier to use with WASD (eg. the letter/key 'O' )

  -add a toggle on/off to keep STAT-displaying on (for tactical reasons) or off (to minimize items on screen)

  -allow users to customize keyboard settings (ie.  IJKL is now for moving tank; 'O' & 'U' for camera angle, etc.)

 

Tanks

[CaptainItchyButt 20]

Like in my previous post above, my apologies for the poor choice of words from our respectable colleague.  We discussed about it and I can assure you that "deal with it" wasn't intended to come across as a classic meme style "screw you deal with it" kind of post.

 

Quite the contrary.  It was meant as a friendly "what can i say, we might as well start getting used to it" advice.  But hey, I think our friend now understands that choice of words are a very important thing, specially when dealing with hot issues such as the current one.  

 

Now as for the premium issue at hand, like I said in my previous post right above, your message and that of all those in the same regrettable situation as you has been heard and has been reported much higher up in the chain of tankionline's house.  Right now I can't make any statements of what they'll decide about it other than acknowledge that they've heard you.  We'll have to wait and see and keep a close eye on all upcoming official announcements.

Thank you Damn_Slow. This is a perfect example of how someone should handle the situation. Respect and acknowledge the complaint, let people know that their concerns have been raised to the right level and keep a level head about it. There's nothing personal here, just facts and acknowledgement. 

 

On a side note, I think it's absolutely hilarious that people with ridiculous nicknames are having such a serious debate. At least that has been giving me a laugh throughout this.

Edited July 16, 2016 by CaptainItchyButt

[alzaeem134 37]

Bad Update , Tanki Online will lose players soon with this Update!! 

 

we don't want this Update  :angry:  :angry:  :angry:  :angry:  :angry:  :angry: 

[asdasemm 925]

tanki seems like wanna kick some players like me

good-bye if this update doesnot say so

[Bydo 20,120]

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Edited July 18, 2016 by frozen_heart

[Cure 138]

Hello !

 

We found in The new update of Paints , that we can see The " Micro upgraded " for each others .. and i found that not cool , because i think Micro is something private  , and no one should see it , After the garage update " people can see what we have " , well we say fine ! its ok let them know what we have , But Micro is something more privet , so pls Change this point in this update ... :)

 

 

[i.K.O.F.I 0]

Very cool update, just one question: Why would some paints become more expensive when all that is happening to them is the removal of their protection?

Because they prices are based on how cool the paint it

[Time 57]

No matter what, I hate this update and might not going to play Tanki anymore if they don't make a change / remove this update, even thought I started playing this game since 2011 :(

[qofka 19]

I used to emerald for bp.. Since the release of this update, rails m4 can kill me with a single.Although my wasp is m4 and I put the protection of emerald and they still can kill me with a single shot.

[delnina2 1,570]

A Concern

 

The concern: 

 

There is a not - small probability, that tankionline's developers won't make any djustments to this update.

 

The reasons: 

 

1. The update has been released before 48 + hours.

2. In the V-Log tanki hasn't remind any fruther change to this update.

3. In the V-Log tanki has announced about a new update.

[Gomuhimu 5]

There is paint in real world which is worth more than 300 million dollars.... you can buy 150 Lamborghini.... 17 piece of F16 Fighter Falcon, More than 50 real tanks... still those paint got sold easy... so i like the upgrade of paint separation..

thank you tankionline....

[falcosenna1 8,320]

There is paint in real world which is worth more than 300 million dollars.... you can buy 150 Lamborghini.... 17 piece of F16 Fighter Falcon, More than 50 real tanks... still those paint got sold easy... so i like the upgrade of paint separation..

thank you tankionline....

So you can afford that paint and you're comparing a game to real life? 

[Time 57]

There is paint in real world which is worth more than 300 million dollars.... you can buy 150 Lamborghini.... 17 piece of F16 Fighter Falcon, More than 50 real tanks... still those paint got sold easy... so i like the upgrade of paint separation..

thank you tankionline....

Question for you: Do you want the paint? If you want it, do you want it to be so expensive? If not, would you buy it if the paint is in your allowance? 

You may like the paint separation but trust me, other than paying real money for the game or to play 24/7 you will never afford inferno, while others will call you a mult.

Edited July 16, 2016 by Time

[donaldo9000 1,342]

 

A Concern

 

The concern: 

 

There is a not - small probability, that tankionline's developers won't make any djustments to this update.

 

The reasons: 

 

1. The update has been released before 48 + hours.

2. In the V-Log tanki hasn't remind any fruther change to this update.

3. In the V-Log tanki has announced about a new update.

 

Well, the v-log was shooted before all the comments on this update were posted. Also, they need time to process all the feedback we gave them, 

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

...and a lot of people UNhappy. Remember when premium was added? We had hundreds of players raging in the exact same way, saying things like "15% protection is extremely OP at low ranks" and "Premium paint gives 15% protection to players who simply pay, which is unfair to those who earned their protections in other special paints like Helper, Acid, Silver, etc."

 

Those people are now satisfied because the paint's protection got removed and instead we have people like you complaining about the change. You see the problem here? It's impossible to make everyone happy - no matter how developers change something, there will always be people to complain about it. This update benefits more people that it disappoints, so you are the minority. You will get another bonus to replace the paint's protection, but the 15% is not coming back. What can I say? Deal with it.

Any time any player asks for something similar to what a helper gets whether it is a small crystal payment for doing a service or getting a paint with a percentage off all turrets, some mods are quick to pounce and will say and do anything to ensure it does not succeed. I understand, you want to preserve your "special" status because you feel that these things are part of a remuneration package for services rendered. I get that. I feel that is why you're strenuously attacking respectful complaints to Tanki's decision to remove the 15% protection without notice.

 

I was one of those who argued against premium's protection in the first place. I'm still against it now but the only reason i'm advocating a return to the 15% is because of the way it was removed without notice when so many people paid real money for it. Remember, you can't buy it with just crystals alone and people earned that money through real life jobs, chores etc.

 

It was only last week I commented somewhere that I respected you and this was mainly down to what I read in the I&S topics. I thought that you let some players down gently and was considerate in your replies to them when they suggested newbie ideas. I clearly didn't read enough of your output because you've now hit rock bottom in my estimation. Your arguments seem fabricated and are unpersuasive, while your attitude to others leaves a lot to be desired. Your stubborn refusal to even acknowledge players' concerns does you no favours whatsoever and does tanki a disservice because while you reply with that avatar, you're representing them. This is not an 'Us against them' topic.

 

Although your post was removed. I'm yet to receive an apology from you. Saying players are "not smart enough" is akin to calling us stupid.

 

 

[donaldo9000 1,342]

I was one of those who argued against premium's protection in the first place. I'm still against it now but the only reason i'm advocating a return to the 15% is because of the way it was removed without notice when so many people paid real money for it. Remember, you can't buy it with just crystals alone and people earned that money through real life jobs, chores etc.

 

 

 

 

I agree. For me, premium accounts shouldn't have come in the game at all. There is one thing that I don't know. Some people here seem to think 15% is not much anyway, or that premium users don't use it, so it's no problem it's removed. Thing is, people buy premium, also for the 15% protection. You can argue that's not a good paint, but some think it is, I have friends that buy premium, and they use the paint. Hell, I even know some guys that almost only use premium paint. Anyway, it doesn't matter whether you think it's a good paint or not. Yeah, I have some paints in my garage that are not that good. But would I like it if they were just suddenly removed? No. I paid for that. And I paid for that with crystals, premium users paid with real money.