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This is a diagram for those poor players who don't understand the pricing system for paints yet :D hope you enjoy

 

PRE-UPDATE paint with protection Pizza_1.png 

 

 

UPDATE:protection separate from paintPizza_2.png

 

 

UPDATE RESULTS: price examples of protection + paint

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Note: Prices may vary, e.g. By switching the pepperoni topping to a less desirable broccoli topping, price is reduced 

 

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Note: Prices may vary, e.g. By switching the pepperoni topping to a less desirable broccoli topping, price is reduced

Mmm... Broccoli pizza is best pizza  ^_^

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A Concern Or A Reality ? 

 

The concern : 

 

There is a not - small probability, that tankionline's developers won't make any djustments to this update.

 

The reasons : 

 

1. The update has been released before 48 + hours.

2. In the V-Log tanki hasn't remind any fruther change to this update.

3. In the V-Log tanki has announced about a new update.

 

Result :

 

Well, It seems that this is the reality. Tanki isn't going to change this update. 

 

But there some more things exept "Paints".

It also our privacy which gone. Now every player can see my MicroUpgrades which is deeply annoying.

Second, It's about tanki's behaviour (Developers) players are disappointed and we don't hear nothing from them, at least give us a minimum attention.

Third is about tanki-update's trend, Tanki realesed more and more updates which we the players, don't like. What would be the next steps ? 

 

 

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A Concern Or A Reality ? 

 

The concern : 

 

There is a not - small probability, that tankionline's developers won't make any djustments to this update.

 

The reasons : 

 

1. The update has been released before 48 + hours.

2. In the V-Log tanki hasn't remind any fruther change to this update.

3. In the V-Log tanki has announced about a new update.

 

Result :

 

Well, It seems that this is the reality. Tanki isn't going to change this update. 

 

But there some more things exept "Paints".

It also our privacy which gone. Now every player can see my MicroUpgrades which is deeply annoying.

Second, It's about tanki's behaviour (Developers) players are disappointed and we don't hear nothing from them, at least give us a minimum attention.

Third is about tanki-update's trend, Tanki realesed more and more updates which we the players, don't like. What would be the next steps ? 

 

 

 

Haven't you heard in V-log that with this update, they'll release a bunch of others that follow, starting with Gold-Dropping-Supply (not sure if it's a joke or something :wacko:)

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Result :

 

Well, It seems that this is the reality. Tanki isn't going to change this update. 

Read my long post with the translation of a Russian FAQ topic about this update. A lot of things players are complaining about will definitely be changed, and some are likely to change. 48 hours is nowhere near enough time to collect proper feedback, analyse it and come up with a list of changes that will be made, so there was no way such a list could be announced in the V-log less than 2 days after the update. Way too early to jump to conclusions right now.

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i have one issue with new addition of key "R" it looks crowded
instead  is it possible to add them next to their name in one row .as we press tab button  next to their name we have those details which we  get when we press "R" .
 
Are u thinking of  making one  blank module ,which a tanker can edit it  but there will be maximum  percentage protection like 100%. maximum % would depend on rank limit. it can  introduced in buying section  or for  premium players.

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I don't know what turret to choose (when changing turrets in battles) so that the enemy team has as few protection as possible. 

Completely agree. I used to be able to just take a glimpse of what all the enemy tanks were wearing and could make a decision of which turret almost instantly in most cases. Now I can barely make a decision.

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Well, this is a great update if Tanki wishes to not sell any paints.  I mean, will people really spend hard-earned crys just to "look cool"? Yeah, probably, but the smart people will not do it.

 

Honestly, updates that make the game more fun or more interesting are great.  Updates that just change things around in attempts to either coax more money out of people (usually newer players) often ruin what was already doing pretty well or, like this change, just seems sort of stupid and pointless.  I really don't think it will generate any more revenue for Tanki Online.  I figure there's no point in buying a paint now.  Green is groovy with me!

 

There is a point where people, like myself, who has over a dozen accounts and spends some money on them all (not thousands, but yeah, in the hundreds over the last 3-4 years...and if it is in the thousands, well, I really don't want to know, and I sure don't want my wife to know...), sits back and wonders if it is really fun and worth my time to play a game that thinks it must keep changing.  As I said, if the point is to make the game more fun, more efficient, different platform (TankiX, for example) and so on, that makes sense, but over the years, there has been more than a few changes that either dumbed down the game (e.g., made it super easy to quickly target using Shaft - now any noob can kill easily with Shaft) or were just stupid changes (e.g., putting a laser on Shaft; you might as well put a disco ball hovering over every Shaft; and take it from someone who was on a tank team in the military: you do not want a disco ball, much less a laser, on your tank; it sort of screams out to the enemy "hey, dudes, I'm over here!" I mean really, use your heads).

 

Anyway, my grumbling won't change anything, and my leaving the game probably wouldn't change anything either, so I'll play along, probably cut back even more time, and eventually, I'll just stop.  It is just a game.

 

But it has certainly gotten less and less of my money.  So be it.

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So many people are complaining of the new update i dont find it bad, but i dont find it good either.

 

I have bought crystals in the past and i was about to buy crystals with this new update i might reconsider.

 

Also when going to garage in battle i cant seem to change my equipment, the garage also takes quite sometime to load outside of battles.

 

Like this comment if you want this update removed many thanks, also maybe someone can give me a link where i can put my ideas?.

 

Many thanks.

 

A dedicated tanki player.

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The paints are so expensive. But you don't need to have paints, so I guess I doesn't really matter (I'm just a bit disappointed that I won't be able to afford to get a cool looking one like zeus or nano).

 

But what does matter to me is that the gameplay is affected. This basically sums it up:

I don't know what turret to choose (when changing turrets in battles) so that the enemy team has as few protection as possible. 

Completely agree. I used to be able to just take a glimpse of what all the enemy tanks were wearing and could make a decision of which turret almost instantly in most cases. Now I can barely make a decision.

It was easy before, to know what equipment to change to. Now I'm just guessing, because it's too difficult to work out the protections through holding down 'r', and trying to read all the info, while you're trying to play at the same time.

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Completely agree. I used to be able to just take a glimpse of what all the enemy tanks were wearing and could make a decision of which turret almost instantly in most cases. Now I can barely make a decision.

This is by far the biggest reason why I'm not logging on to any real degree this weekend. I suspect many others are feeling the same way.

 

Even with the incentive of premium and double funds, server numbers have barely increased by 5000 on what they were at the end of June / beginning of July. Usually events such as these see a lot more players making an appearance.  The early signs are that players are waiting for improvements before they reengage.

 

 

 

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If we had something like this on screen we would be able to figure it out.

 

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The numbers in this graphic are the percentage totals of all the players resistances to each turret.

These could be broken-down further to display a percentage for each resistance. (totalling 100%)

 

The total percentage here totals 730 then the numbers would read...

 

29% for firebird (210/730 *100)

17% for isida

15% for freeze

11% for vulcan, smoky and twins

3% for shaft

3% for rail

 

Now I don't know about you guys but to me this would make me feel a whole lot happier about this update because I could work out at a glance, (just like before when I looked at their paints), that the enemy have a strong defense against Firebird, Isida and freeze but not Thunder, Rico and Hammer.

 

 

Further food for thought:

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If this information was moved to the scoreboard, shown when you press tab, even better. There is no place for it in the game.

 

However,  this information,

 

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should be shown all the time, (in my opinion), without the need to press R, along with the resistance value for my turret.

 

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WHy do I love Tanki Drama so much ahah :wub:

You should incorporate the latest dramas into your Youtube channel and become even more famous!

A weekly round up of forum news!

Remember, I want a blue sphere off you when you hit 10k subs!

 

#tankidrama

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Completely agree. I used to be able to just take a glimpse of what all the enemy tanks were wearing and could make a decision of which turret almost instantly in most cases. Now I can barely make a decision.

Yes, this is my main issue with the update.

I think it interrupts gameplay, having to hold down 'r' and look to work out the protections, rather than just glimpsing the paint design, and knowing straight away, like we used to be able to do.

It was easier in the old system, to memorise a few paints and their protections, than now, in the new system, having to remember the info you've got from holding down the 'r' button.

And there's no way to know what protection you've got equipped, in case you forget (unless you go to the garage, which takes time).

 

 

Also, another point is I totally disagree with taking protection away from wasp in xp/bp, because wasp and hornet each have disadvantages and advantages. Wasp may have more speed, but hornet's stability makes it more steady, for when you're making shots, as well as making it less likely to be flipped or be knocked off aim when it's hit while shooting. I do not think it needed to be 'balanced', because I think it was already balanced before. Now it has put me off using bp.

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And there's no way to know what protection you've got equipped, in case you forget (unless you go to the garage, which takes time).

That's a known issue, will be fixed in an upcoming patch.

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Congrats, well read the rest of my message. You obviously don't know squat, so instead of trying to tell your propaganda on this forum to make this new update seem better than before, listen to what they are saying and translate it so that you understand...or I can do it for you:

 

Paints are separated into two parts, the paint itself and the protection the paint offers. Now that the paint has 0 value when it comes to protecting yourself and is worth just as much as the Holiday paint (one of the non-protection paints from before the update) buying these 100,000 paints or really any paint is useless, because it does not give you any protection. If you want protection, you need to buy a protection and upgrade it to its maximum power. This basically now means that in addition to upgrading your hull, you can upgrade your protection to get even more protection. If they hadn't split it this basically means you can now have an M3 paint.

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Did any of the developers explain why they've thought about an update like this? And made it real? What was that update for?  If there is one, can any of you link me to it? If not, we really need some answers.

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