Paint Separation Update

[MusicJam19 737]

You have an unhealthy obsession with mspaint - mate! The truth is, you manufactured something I supposed to have thought and then proceeded to try and refute that thought. Again, I implied nothing because unlike many people here, I just say what I think.

 

My beef is not just with price, excessive as it is, it was with the pitch too and if I'm pulling no punches and being totally honest, it was also irresponsible. We like the little stories tanki tell us from time to time, eg, freeze turret being invented, getting made from vacuum cleaner and fridge parts or whatever it was because they're fun and harmless, but here I believe they're using their influence to convince us that these items are somehow special when they're clearly not. Tanki should NOT do that.

• "Paints have become a status symbol"
• "I would compare paints with watches. Even a $10 ordinary watch can show the exact time but if you're wearing a designer watch worth several 1000's of dollars on your wrist, it will DEFINITELY get you A LOT more attention than the $10 piece of plastic."

So do tell. What makes these paints so special? As far as I can tell, it's just the price? You don't make an item sort after simply by giving it a huge price tag! This is wrong on so many levels in my opinion.

 

Cue the, 'you don't have to buy it',responses...

It's true, what they did was quite odd. However, be glad that they don't use the League of Legends (along with many other games) tactic - making skins (basically an aesthetic for your character) only available to buy with premium currency (which costs a lot of real money)

True, it will take a long time (or a few days for mods if you believe the incorrect crap some players say about staff wages) but at least it is still possible.

And I am inclined to agree that paints are now starting to become status symbols. We now have a paint to show if someone has spec mode!

Edited August 3, 2016 by MusicJam19

[RedRose 371]

let us be able to sell paints and make the paints 50% off cuz there too much . i will never buy em

[Il.predator.lI 40]

Hi, this is my first post lol. I see this like:

-a bad thing( my name contains ''predator'', sign I wanted to buy Predator kit and now I cannot afford it due to the paint separation)

-a good thing(I can try some other kits which may be also good)

 My bad, the name won't fit if i get another kit :P

I got used to this and now I'm looking forward. what can I say, decent update.

Edited August 4, 2016 by Il.predator.lI

[Il.predator.lI 40]

In my first post i said something about trying other kits. I was thinking to get harvester. any opinions? (reasons to get it, reasons to save for something else) please reply asap. thanks ;)

[FireHornet_Original 29]

We had a poll asking how would be a good price range for paints now...since they are mere ornaments.

You want to give oraments at 400,000 crystals? That's not right or honest.

[Shawn.YT.Channel 0]

I am not agreeing with this update

[deadmanrising 715]

How can we even tell which paints have protections against us? What type of game is this?

[tankboemboem 63]

!!BUGS STILL THERE!!!!

 

Since the update changing something in garage while playing a game gives two problems (bugs in tanki I think): 

 

1. It does not always execute the change i made. It indicates that equipment is selected but when returned to the battle it has not changed the protection I have chosen. The second time I retry this action (while killing myself) works. This happens all the time. 

 

2. While changing a protection module or paint or a turret etc... while being spanned back gives an error and I have to log in again (back in de game).

 

These is very frustrating FIXED it nuba

[Flori469 1]

I wana sell some of my paints because a big problem. Some hackers come in my acc and bye a lot of paints and spent all my crystals.

[deadmanrising 715]

You have an unhealthy obsession with mspaint - mate! The truth is, you manufactured something I supposed to have thought and then proceeded to try and refute that thought. Again, I implied nothing because unlike many people here, I just say what I think.

 

My beef is not just with price, excessive as it is, it was with the pitch too and if I'm pulling no punches and being totally honest, it  was also irresponsible.  We like the little stories tanki tell us from time to time, eg, freeze turret being invented, getting made from vacuum cleaner and fridge parts or whatever it was because they're fun and harmless, but here I believe they're using their influence to convince us that these items are somehow special when they're clearly not. Tanki should NOT do that.

• "Paints have become a status symbol"
• "I would compare paints with watches. Even a $10 ordinary watch can show the exact time but if you're wearing a designer watch worth several 1000's of dollars on your wrist, it will DEFINITELY get you A LOT more attention than the $10 piece of plastic."

So do tell. What makes these paints so special? As far as I can tell, it's just the price? You don't make an item sort after simply by giving it a huge price tag! This is wrong on so many levels in my opinion.

 

Cue the, 'you don't have to buy it',responses...

 

 

Looks like a bunch of nicely decorated pixels

[Adarshautobot 1]

ITS NICE AND USEFUL. gives us a complete info about the protection against our weapons and also  we can equip our most  lovable paint with better protection module like zeus module with white paint :P mostly everyone use it to troll xD but idk why many pople consider the update as useles

[MusicJam19 737]

I wana sell some of my paints because a big problem. Some hackers come in my acc and bye a lot of paints and spent all my crystals.

Get tech support, and the sell option has been denied many times in the past

[Dinga9 5]

Guys. When there is a issue, specifically each time here it is the update released by Tanki Online. Each update is unique in certain ways, however let's look at the positive. We now don't get a good paint in example, 30% fire 10% smoky, everyone wanted to buy the paint for its 30% against fire, however the 10% stopped people from buying it since its just useless. However in this update we are given exactly same protection if its a module with multiple protections. The prices are fine, there is nothing like over priced paint because it has this protection or that, what ever protection it has, exactly same module but different turret is same price same protection. We are giving sets of protections against various turrets but people don't appreciate it. Of course the paint prices are big, which is big negative red on this update. Maybe your someone with a unique looking paint or just a paint which you bought on special offer, adding your protection of loved you will be fine right..? Indeed if your lower ranked or mid-ranked this update spoiled your dream tank, but protection module has superior in importance, since without it your paint just decoration, you might disagree its decoration because of your own opinion. But as told, paints are just plain, some paints in example like alien are way expensive, just like jaguar. Before paints where mostly ranging into a order from lower price to higher. Which was very logically from my point of view, why? Because more we rank, we are stronger and our wallet is stronger. Tanki did do some cheap stuff with the new paints, but i doubt anyone thought about it... Back in past, sometimes in ideas and suggestions there were suggestions about more girlish paints, in fact tanki has considered it and gave way bigger choice. Yeah there missing a paint for girls on high ranks since cherry isn't a as girly option in my opinion. But, there was this guy, i forgot but ''khan'' something, he had maybe even still has a topic about girly paints, and most of them are just awesome, people even tested them on tank viewer, there are many screen shots, just fabulous. So back onto the paint prices, it would be better if they where arranging into price, perhaps who needs that alien paint for 150k is it...? Can't remember to be honest, what they could of done stating on that alien is quite fabulous looking paint which why they made it expensive could of being unlocked on higher ranks, no one gonna buy it, well buyers if they need it but really... As I've told before its just an decoration, so yeah here im getting to end where im not as much agreeing with the prices, but then why couldn't they just keep the prices the same..? Its like saying the protection module was the discount in paints.

[Mario3108 462]

Will have personal discounts with modules someday?  :rolleyes:

[Mario3108 462]

Within some special events like Tanki Birthday, will have now discounts with modules also? true?  <_<

Edited August 9, 2016 by Mario3108

[Mario3108 462]

With the update of the modules, premium account is not so special like before, because the premium paint doesn't have protection, so...

Will have a premium module someday (Like before, just with 15% of protection against all the turrets)? or something like that?  :rolleyes:

 

If you didn't have this plan, please, consider it.  ;)

[poundtopoket 0]

what was wrong with the paints before? the update is messed up and tanki's financial problems must be to. its obvious they need money. tanki dont take offence its my true oppinion. >_<

[BAMBIBX 178]

So why are there TWO levels of abstraction in naming protections?

 

For example, "Eagle D-B M1"

 

We know "M1" is the protection level, so no problem with that.  But what is "D-B"  and what is "Eagle"?

 

To find out, go to the protections... and scroll... and scroll... and scroll.  

 

Ah!   There it is!  Right between "Orca" and "Panda"

 

You guys never heard of alphabetical order?

 

Okay, now I've found it, I can click on it and find out what it's about.    Shaft and Railgun.  Okay, fine.  But I want protection from Shaft, Railgun AND Thunder.  Does that protection exist?

What the hell does "Thunder" protection look like anyway?  do I have to read ALL the descriptions on ALL the protections until I find it?

 

Oh.  Wait.  I have a legacy paint with Thunder protection.  Ah!  So that's what the icon looks like.  So how do I find the Shaft-Rail-Thunder combo?

 

Seems the only way to find out is to scroll... and scroll... and scroll.... and scroll...

Do you guys get paid by the click?  Or the thumb-drag mile?

 

How about a quick lookup table where you can click the options you want - and the icons are "assembled" for you into the protection you want?

 

So if I want protection against Isida and Hammer, I click drop-down menu 1, select "Isida" and drop-down menu 2, select "Hammer" and leave column 3 empty and press "show me" and - viola!  prices pop up for 0,1,2 and 3 level protection.  No need to name it anything.  But if you DID want to name it something, how about HI-2 for Hammer-Isida-level-2.  Keep the letters in alpha order, and they'll be more-or-less unique. (Okay Firebird and Freeze , Rail and Ricochet - you kinda need two letters so HAIS-2.)

 

Or better yet, set the price for INDIVIDUAL protections at 5, 30, 100, 250 EACH and let people mix and match them.  You could have a Thunder 1, Freeze 3, Hammer 2 combination: It would be called Fr3Ha2Th1.  Which would tell you EXACTLY what it was without all the animal gobbledygook.  And it works both ways.

 

You want a new protection against Rail at level 3 and Firebird at level 2.  That combo is called "Fi2Ra3" under my naming system.  What is it called in the current system?  Okay, you can't do it under the current system - how about Rail and  Firebird M1?  What's the name?  Wildebeest?  Crow?  Turkey?  Come on, we don't have all day.

 

Going the other way:  It's easy to see what a Sm2Th2Vu1 protection does.  Quick - what does "Shark" protect you against?  

 

​The additional abstractions, the long list of combinations, add nothing to the game.  In fact, they're a pain in the nether regions.

Edited August 9, 2016 by BAMBIBX

[theFiringHand 21,351]

So why are there TWO levels of abstraction in naming protections?

 

 

 

For example, "Eagle D-B M1"

 

We know "M1" is the protection level, so no problem with that.  But what is "D-B"  and what is "Eagle"?

 

To find out, go to the protections... and scroll... and scroll... and scroll.  

 

Ah!   There it is!  Right between "Orca" and "Panda"

 

You guys never heard of alphabetical order?

 

Okay, now I've found it, I can click on it and find out what it's about.    Shaft and Railgun.  Okay, fine.  But I want protection from Shaft, Railgun AND Thunder.  Does that protection exist?

What the hell does "Thunder" protection look like anyway?  do I have to read ALL the descriptions on ALL the protections until I find it?

 

Oh.  Wait.  I have a legacy paint with Thunder protection.  Ah!  So that's what the icon looks like.  So how do I find the Shaft-Rail-Thunder combo?

 

Seems the only way to find out is to scroll... and scroll... and scroll.... and scroll...

Do you guys get paid by the click?  Or the thumb-drag mile?

 

How about a quick lookup table where you can click the options you want - and the icons are "assembled" for you into the protection you want?

 

So if I want protection against Isida and Hammer, I click drop-down menu 1, select "Isida" and drop-down menu 2, select "Hammer" and leave column 3 empty and press "show me" and - viola!  prices pop up for 0,1,2 and 3 level protection.  No need to name it anything.  But if you DID want to name it something, how about HI-2 for Hammer-Isida-level-2.  Keep the letters in alpha order, and they'll be more-or-less unique. (Okay Firebird and Freeze , Rail and Ricochet - you kinda need two letters so HAIS-2.)

 

Or better yet, set the price for INDIVIDUAL protections at 5, 30, 100, 250 EACH and let people mix and match them.  You could have a Thunder 1, Freeze 3, Hammer 2 combination: It would be called Fr3Ha2Th1.  Which would tell you EXACTLY what it was without all the animal gobbledygook.  And it works both ways.

 

You want a new protection against Rail at level 3 and Firebird at level 2.  That combo is called "Fi2Ra3" under my naming system.  What is it called in the current system?  Okay, you can't do it under the current system - how about Rail and  Firebird M1?  What's the name?  Wildebeest?  Crow?  Turkey?  Come on, we don't have all day.

 

Going the other way:  It's easy to see what a Sm2Th2Vu1 protection does.  Quick - what does "Shark" protect you against?  

 

​The additional abstractions, the long list of combinations, add nothing to the game.  In fact, they're a pain in the nether regions.

 

 

Very fair point. Lemme see what I can work out. In the meantime, does this help? Paints and Modules

[falcosenna1 8,320]

So why are there TWO levels of abstraction in naming protections?

 

 

 

For example, "Eagle D-B M1"

 

We know "M1" is the protection level, so no problem with that.  But what is "D-B"  and what is "Eagle"?

 

To find out, go to the protections... and scroll... and scroll... and scroll.  

 

Ah!   There it is!  Right between "Orca" and "Panda"

 

You guys never heard of alphabetical order?

 

Okay, now I've found it, I can click on it and find out what it's about.    Shaft and Railgun.  Okay, fine.  But I want protection from Shaft, Railgun AND Thunder.  Does that protection exist?

What the hell does "Thunder" protection look like anyway?  do I have to read ALL the descriptions on ALL the protections until I find it?

 

Oh.  Wait.  I have a legacy paint with Thunder protection.  Ah!  So that's what the icon looks like.  So how do I find the Shaft-Rail-Thunder combo?

 

Seems the only way to find out is to scroll... and scroll... and scroll.... and scroll...

Do you guys get paid by the click?  Or the thumb-drag mile?

 

How about a quick lookup table where you can click the options you want - and the icons are "assembled" for you into the protection you want?

 

So if I want protection against Isida and Hammer, I click drop-down menu 1, select "Isida" and drop-down menu 2, select "Hammer" and leave column 3 empty and press "show me" and - viola!  prices pop up for 0,1,2 and 3 level protection.  No need to name it anything.  But if you DID want to name it something, how about HI-2 for Hammer-Isida-level-2.  Keep the letters in alpha order, and they'll be more-or-less unique. (Okay Firebird and Freeze , Rail and Ricochet - you kinda need two letters so HAIS-2.)

 

Or better yet, set the price for INDIVIDUAL protections at 5, 30, 100, 250 EACH and let people mix and match them.  You could have a Thunder 1, Freeze 3, Hammer 2 combination: It would be called Fr3Ha2Th1.  Which would tell you EXACTLY what it was without all the animal gobbledygook.  And it works both ways.

 

You want a new protection against Rail at level 3 and Firebird at level 2.  That combo is called "Fi2Ra3" under my naming system.  What is it called in the current system?  Okay, you can't do it under the current system - how about Rail and  Firebird M1?  What's the name?  Wildebeest?  Crow?  Turkey?  Come on, we don't have all day.

 

Going the other way:  It's easy to see what a Sm2Th2Vu1 protection does.  Quick - what does "Shark" protect you against?  

 

​The additional abstractions, the long list of combinations, add nothing to the game.  In fact, they're a pain in the nether regions.

Looking through all modules in the garage to check of the triple protection you're willing to own, exists, is indeed a painful quest. I was thinking about some sort of search option in the garage to make it easier.

 

For example, you want a module with Thunder protection

• Protection 1: Thunder

All modules with protection against Thunder will show up.

 

Let's say you're looking for a module with both Shaft and Thunder protection

• Protection 1: Thunder
• Protection 2: Shaft

In this case, modules with protection against only 1 turret can't show up anymore. Only modules with both Thunder and Shaft protection will show up, meaning the module with double protection if existent and modules with triple protection. In this last case, all modules with protection from Thunder, Shaft and another turret (depending on how many modules with both Thunder and Shaft protection exist) will be shown.

 

If you're looking for a triple protection module, it'll work the same way. Protection 1, protection 2 and protection 3. If no module with the searched protection exists, you'll get a notification that such a module ain't available. 

Edited August 10, 2016 by falcosenna1

[theFiringHand 21,351]

Looking through all modules in the garage to check of the triple protection you're willing to own, exist, is indeed a painful quest. I was thinking about some sort of search option in the garage to make it easier.

 

 

For example, you want a module with Thunder protection

• Protection 1: Thunder

All modules with protection against Thunder will show up.

 

Let's say you're looking for a module with both Shaft and Thunder protection

• Protection 1: Thunder
• Protection 2: Shaft

In this case, modules with protection against only 1 turret can't show up anymore. Only modules with both Thunder and Shaft protection will show up, meaning modules with double protection and modules with triple protection. In this last case, all modules with protection from Thunder, Shaft and a another turret (depending on how many modules with both Thunder and Shaft protection exist) will be shown.

 

If you're looking for a triple protection module, it'll work the same way. Protection 1, protection 2 and protection 3. If no module with the searched protection exists, you'll get a notification that such a module ain't available. 

 

 

Forwarded to devs.

[theFiringHand 21,351]

So, about the garage filter for easily finding protection modules, I've spoken with and here's what he had to say about it:

 

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There is a need for something like that. Eventually there should be something to help players find certain protection faster.  Can't say when, though. This is one of those that might be delayed due to some more important stuff. I think module sorting should be done sometime near the introduction new turrets, assuming they make it to the devs' table that is.

 

In this case I feature-cut this due to fact that the majority of players do not have access to a huge number of modules. To at least compensate in some way, we sorted them in the garage. But this will be done one way or another.

[Bydo 20,121]

 

So, about the garage filter for easily finding protection modules, I've spoken with and here's what he had to say about it:

 

---

 

There is a need for something like that. Eventually there should be something to help players find certain protection faster.  Can't say when, though. This is one of those that might be delayed due to some more important stuff. I think module sorting should be done sometime near the introduction new turrets, assuming they make it to the devs' table that is.

 

In this case I feature-cut this due to fact that the majority of players do not have access to a huge number of modules. To at least compensate in some way, we sorted them in the garage. But this will be done one way or another.

 

should this not be done ahead of time so when future updates happen it would be easier for players to locate things

[theFiringHand 21,351]

should this not be done ahead of time so when future updates happen it would be easier for players to locate things

Depends on how many human resources you have to work with. The team isn't a bottomless well. Unfortunately, they have to prioritize. I'm sure that if they had a limitless number of employees, they would've been happy to roll out that feature immediately.

[Bydo 20,121]

Depends on how many human resources you have to work with. The team isn't a bottomless well. Unfortunately, they have to prioritize. I'm sure that if they had a limitless number of employees, they would've been happy to roll out that feature immediately.

true ..

 

Mr. Debono ..what players have asked me in the past is how many departments and how many employees in each one .. that work for tanki .. this might help players understand why some of these things are not done faster then in other company's... i hope you understand what i just said..

 

double posted ... send another post in chat room section / ask Mr Debono...

Edited August 11, 2016 by frozen_heart