Paint Separation Update

[david2276 0]

BAD UPDATE I do not like it

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

Which is the best camo / masking paint? Do paints even do this anymore (hide you in brush)? Or was this feature also removed. This is now my only reason to buy a paint - does it make it harder for others to see me?

 

Sorry for all the post in a row.

Um, well, it was never made for camo, but most green paints would hide you in summer mode bushes well, and most white paints will hide you in winter mode bushes well.

[HaloScorpionV2 438]

Which is the best camo / masking paint? Do paints even do this anymore (hide you in brush)? Or was this feature also removed. This is now my only reason to buy a paint - does it make it harder for others to see me?

 

Sorry for all the post in a row.

if you go BEHIND the bush instead of INSIDE the bush you can use any paint you want.

[LeIouch_Vi_Britannia 6,163]

Im still competitive with my m4 garage so it wont be hurting me not spending anymore on tanki ;)

I decided to stop paying on tanki time ago, made a dumb move and spent them on my girlfriend, realised it would have been wiser of me if I had just spent on tanki :mellow: :lol:

Tho now i just spend it only for myself

#profit :lol:

(btw no offence to any girls around, just called myself dumb :lol:)

Edited July 17, 2016 by LeIouch_Vi_Britannia

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Wellcome to the Club Bill :D I said the same thing after the SCD update and I kept it.. ;)

Hey cecil, I didn't realise you stopped buying after scd!

[generalmarco18 1]

This is an okay update. I think its good we can swap our paints without changing the protections but it looks like it has come at a cost. Some of the downfalls of this update are:

1. The protection modules have m0-m3 types which is good but too expensive.

2. The paints are more expensive beacuse they have been stupidly based on "beauty"

3. The "R" key. Its in a horrible spot and although its great that you can see if the enemy has that protection against your turret, it should be easier to see what other protections they have.

Also, by basing paints on "beauty" and protection modules having m0-m3 means the prices will affect the economics. Seriously 500000 crystals for a PAINT! For that price, I good get m3 XT thunder which is much more worth it than a paint that looks good. And the protection modules that are actually good that cost 7000 crystal and more! It is a rip-off!!

 

And even if u do bring out the "6" key which can spawn goldboxes (which i think is pretty awesome), that will cost 100000 crystals or close to that and the missions for it will be ridiculous. 1000 crystals is not enough money to buy a decent protection or paint.

 

Finally, I like this update but in most ways, this update has only wrecked the economics and made alot of tankers angry. Just because you get more money into your bank account tanki doesn't mean people are liking what you are doing. Thanks.

[Bydo 20,120]

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Edited July 18, 2016 by frozen_heart

[r_Omran1 39]

Bad An Update !!!

[DESTROYER_13 1,019]

Good An Update !!!

Edited July 17, 2016 by DESTROYER_13

[Xx-Killer-Dude-xX 0]

This update is terrible. Cheap paints costs hundreds of thousands now. Premium now has no protection. Tanki this was a BIG FAIL get rid of this please.

[eminem9870 605]

I don't think it's the paint prices anymore. This update is just terrible. It's confusing because you'll have to be constantly pressing R while playing. Also, what about clan meetups? It's ruined now.

[eminem9870 605]

You guys seriously need to remove this or a lot of people will leave. I personally will never leave this game but a lot will leave

[Heles 9,220]

Maybe Clay looked ugly soo they lowered the price and zeus looks amazing soo they increased it :P

Edited July 18, 2016 by Heles

[Heles 9,220]

...... 
(just speechless about this update) 

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

I don't think it's the paint prices anymore. This update is just terrible. It's confusing because you'll have to be constantly pressing R while playing. Also, what about clan meetups? It's ruined now.

Press Shift + Windows key + R keeps the R-display premaritally displayed until you press R again. And I don't follow eSports or know anything about clans, why are meet-ups ruined?

[Amon166 90]

Press Shift + Windows key + R keeps the R-display premaritally displayed until you press R again.

Doesn't work

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

Aha, relief to see all those enraged souls settle down after all.

Now let’s break down the so called “noob update” made infamous following its release.

(Didn’t intend to be long but had to address all the unnecessary hate)

 

1. Illogical paint prices; almost appears as if the system glitched out or the economics team rushed through planning.

 

Now, 5 484 500 and 5 091 630. Any Idea what these two values indicate? Well, they are actually the cumulative paints cost before and after respectively. The point is that all the paints cost ~7% less. And you, dear critique have the right to say “So what? All that left mere texture which in very few cases may camouflage my tank. Let alone the additional modules cost”. Valid point indeed but from an established player’s perspective. To a new user, who is completely oblivious to the fact that Zeus used to be half its current cost, the prices may not even bother. Similar to how we rarely considered investing on expensive paints(Africa, Clay, so on), It will be a similar experience shared by new players. That said, I still expect the prices to be brought down by well “a lot” as many of you say. The part that bothers me the most is how, all the of the sudden, Zeus gets to be the mighty one xD

 

 

 

2. Protection statistics and having to hold the 'R' key; Clan issues.

 

In case you need to be reminded, the number contained in a shield mark of corresponding team’s color – next to players name in battles, actually indicates their protection against your turret.

 

Allow me to raise this question: how often, suppose as a rail user, did you ever need to know whether the enemy is protected against some turret other than rail in normal battles? Lets be honest, prior to the update, all we ever knew was paint that had protection against our turret. Now we get to see how much and, in fact, with micro-upgrades incorporated.

 

Of course, knowing all the protection statistics about enemy is an essential component for team battles with serious team-work, for instance - clans. For this reason, as others have suggested: the ‘R’ key should only be pressed once to display the statistics window and pressed again to hide it.

 

 

 

3. Kits without protection modules.

 

This is definitely a temporary issue. Modelling kits with the right balance of armor, damage, and protection, and cost takes time. So I suggest stay relaxed and expect new kits to roll in soon.

 

 

 

Finally, this notion of Tanki X dominating the game franchise in the near future, eventually shutting Tanki Online down, needs to go away! You all realize that there exists no business without the community it aims to serve. We all form this online community with our collective effort in welcoming, criticizing, and making TOs future. Developers have given no clue of ever shutting down the game but if this attitude of welcoming a new update by complaining all over the game chat and whining about leaving the game remains, I sure see a narrowing future for TO to a point where is collapses. Think as to why would devs want to lose this great community, by releasing apparently “noob updates”, in a hope that all of us will migrate to Tanki X(which by the way still has many stages of development and bugs to deal with) despite the betrayal we would have received from Tanki Online.

All I can request is that next time an update is released, thoughtfully analyze all its aspects and in what way will it benefit not only us but the new community and, of course, the game management. An update is not irreversible, but developers require strict valid points as to why their effort is not beneficial to the business(that includes you). And of course this process can only take place with the community’s full cooperation. Whining about leaving the game for reasons that the update has slowed down the game and created more lags with no accurate data to back it up is nothing but hypocrisy. How great of an argument does that provide to developers to revert back the changes? The first step following a release is always monitoring the feedback which should always be coming from you in a cooperative manner. Apologies if I offended any one but felt the need to post this after yesterday’s unnecessary backlash from many players.

 

Think of it as an advance in the game play which everyone has gotten used to over the years. I would personally condone this ‘element of surprise’ feature, especially when it set a more realistic combat environment (not knowing what the enemy has and yet tackling with the situation)

This update is purely to make money.  The developers do not care about what people think as long as that does not interfere with making money.  This is especially important to them at the moment because of the drastic drop in people partaking in the game and buying.

[Anonono 1,233]

How can you not like the update? It makes things much simpler!!! Maybe some of you don't understand it all quite yet.

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

Not really. Our job is to keep everyone calm. We do share our opinions, but we do so in a respected manner giving our honest opinions and clarifications as well as ways it could improve. We don't go around saying "This is the worst update" "this is bad" like everyone is doing which is making us look like we only like TO cause we have to - we don't.

Their is one moderator who is doing anything but keeping people calm.  In fact this particular moderator is deliberately provoking players and taunting them and inciting rage by the way he speaks to .  I believe that this will be counter productive to the aims of tank.  It does not promote calmness or good feelings towards Tanki.

[theFiringHand 21,351]

You guys seriously need to remove this or a lot of people will leave. I personally will never leave this game but a lot will leave

Removing the update isn't the solution. We'll find a way to work on your feedback and make it better.

 

Which is the best camo / masking paint? Do paints even do this anymore (hide you in brush)? Or was this feature also removed. This is now my only reason to buy a paint - does it make it harder for others to see me?

 

Sorry for all the post in a row.

How "effective" a camo paint is, depends on where you're using it. All camouflage does is use a particular combination of colors so as to be harder to see in certain environments. A white paint would already give you that in a snowy environment.

 

There will be significantly less diversity when it comes to paints in the game. The average (low ranked) account will not buy a paint just for its appearance. They would save their crystals on modules or MUs.

 

A better update would be that the uglier paints would be cheaper, and have less protection, and the more aesthetically pleasing paints would be more expensive, and have better protection. Separating protections from paints may have seemed like a good idea on paper, but it is not in reality.

As has already been said in this thread, the prices of paints might be revised. That said, I don't see a problem with people all having the same paint and not wanting to spend crystals on purely aesthetic items. If you have the crystals to splurge, by all mean do it. But if you don't have the crystals, then don't look at paints, just focus on gameplay-improving items. It's obvious.

 

I don't like this update, why? It's simple to explain. Zeus had 3 protections before the update, and one of them had 50% protection against Firebird that means the maximum protection against a turret and it cost 250.000 crystals. NOW, after the update Zeus cost 500.000 WITHOUT protections, why? Because looks cool? Thats why? Before the update some paints had 4 protections like Raccoon or Lumberjack, why they didn't do moduls who contains 4 protections?... And the modul's price is very big, how can a Captain buy a modul with 100.000 when he needs to save crys for M2s ? At little ranks exists a kit named "Bulldog" i think, who costs 100k crystals because of Alien paint, how can a Warrant Officer 1 buy that?...This update needs to disappear. :angry:  :excl:

Remember, if you had the paint, you should've gotten the corresponding Paint Element and Protection Module. If you didn't, then you do not need to buy the paint; just buy a protection module instead.

 

I'm glad you have finally noticed the incredible increase in prices. Good job on figuring that out. :)

 

No sarcasm intended at all!!

 

@falcosenna1, it would be nice if you could appreciate that we're already taking steps towards correcting the issues that are being raised by the community. As I've already said many times in this thread, we have the feedback and we're doing our best to argue in favor of what players want.

[o.O_clairvoyant_O.o 18]

How can you not like the update? It makes things much simpler!!! Maybe some of you don't understand it all quite yet.

i'm a kit buyer and now it's useless to have kits at cheap price. i was going to buy bulldozer next week. but now with emerald costing 370k it's useless to buy, that too without protection element.

idk why you found this thing useful. :blink: :blink:

[o.O_clairvoyant_O.o 18]

Removing the update isn't the solution. We'll find a way to work on your feedback and make it better.

 

tell me about the change in kits that will take place.

you guys made m1/m2 kits like osaka and bulldozer super expensive now.

remove paint element from kits and add only protection module.

or a better option is make new modules specially for kits which can't be purchased seperately. and obviously the module will be more expensive then normal ones.

[Abubakar_241don 1]

Please Remove this Update...!  :(

[Skepta 405]

Well, at least I got the Simoom M2 kit for SilverWarlock alot cheaper than normal...

 

And Xp/Bp games will be alot more colourful - THE ONLY ADVANTAGES TO THIS UPDATE

[omrot 2,327]

Well, at least I got the Simoom M2 kit for SilverWarlock alot cheaper than normal...

 

And Xp/Bp games will be alot more colourful - THE ONLY ADVANTAGES TO THIS UPDATE

You mean Xp

 

No fool will use BP after the update