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Well they should at least express the reasons behind the anger. Most players just spam the TO chat with hateful comments and think that will make things better. No. You need to give the Devs reasons & feedback and put it somewhere the devs will read it. 

 

Also, players get angry because of the stupidest things. The Shop changes layout and people start raging at tanki saying that it is just a way to get more money... NO, It's a way to make the game interface more user-friendly. It won't affect you if you don't use the shop so why complain??? 

 

*prepares to be attacked because I'm a helper*

The shop update should not have been lauded and paraded in the way it was. It deserves a footnote and no more. It's analogous to a supermarket putting balloons out because they got new cash registers. Customers don't care about new cash registers.

 

What customers want is fairness, not new ways to rip them off.

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What customers want is fairness, not new ways to rip them off.

I still don't see how a new and better shop layout has anything to do with ripping customers off, but ok...

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I still don't see how a new and better shop layout has anything to do with ripping customers off, but ok...

It was a separate paragraph relating to the aforementioned anger but I see what you did there. Well done - have a cookie.

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The reason i'm writing this us everyone these days are complaining whining whining whining and about update tanki makes. Daily missions? Players: Its so crap. Premium? Players: Its so not benificial. Paint seperation? Players: Tanki is so stupid and it sucks. You players these days ( not everyone but a majority of you) need stop stop whinign, acting like a 2 year old. There will be ALOT of updates along the way. You players can't go all negative. Think about the positive

To think aabot positive you kinda need something positive, no?

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Tanki needs us, we dont need them, so they should learn to listen to what WE want, not what they feel like doing for money.

Are you serious? Did you actually spend enough time re-reading the above sentence? I am sure you did not.

 

"we don't need them" — translated for everyone: "we do not need tanki and its devs" --> without Devs, there would be no Tanki and, without Tanki, you'd be playing something else, so Tanki would not even need you since it would not even exist.

 

"they should learn to listen to what WE want, not what they feel like doing for money" — Tanki Online (Alternativa Platform) is a company, not your own personal playground. As a company, it has the complete authorization to do whatever is needed to proceed further with marketing plans, financial plans and budgets, etc.. Meanwhile, as a company, it is not forced to listen to its costumers, it is "allowed" to, at its own decision.

So, in short, Alternativa Platform may listen to its users, but it is not forced to do. All what Devs do follows specific marketing and economical plans, but in case there is some space left for users-suggested ideas then these may be considered — this is all what you must understand, nothing more, nothing less.

 

You seem to be lacking basic knowledge of marketing and companies' management, because ALL THE COMPANIES on this planet must earn money to survive and they are not forced to listen to their costumers, they are "allowed" to do so. Meanwhile, ALL THE COMPANIES on this planet must follow marketing and financial plans — working for moneys.

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I still don't see how a new and better shop layout has anything to do with ripping customers off, but ok...

Well more crystals?

Normaly i bought 400 000 crys with DCC for 49.99 and now i can get 800 000 crys with DCC using 49.99 euros.

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Well more crystals?

Normaly i bought 400 000 crys with DCC for 49.99 and now i can get 800 000 crys with DCC using 49.99 euros.

And that is ripping you off? Ah, No. 

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Seriously? There's a clear distinction to what Right-wingers and Left-wingers think is fine and what is not. And based on what he said, he sounds a lot more like a Right-winger. But then again, why are you bothered about me calling him Right-winger?

No mate. I know the difference between these two terms. But I don't know the reason why you dividing players on political grounds. After all, this is a video game forum.

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1- I expected with the new paint update to be able to build my own protection module with the 3 protections of my choices, and not to scroll over the +69 options and try to find the ones I needed. I would have made different module for different strategies: a module against long range turret Camping mode / Brest CTF and a couple for close combat (including mine) for polygone/CP depending on the player on the battlefields in order to adapt protection. 

I did too, actually. It's what they made me think when they first announced it.

I'm still happy though, my schmexy Guerilla paint looks great.

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Issho

 

I don't know what country you live in but in the west, particularly the USA, companies have competition. And they better listen to their customers or they will soon be out of business.

 

You have not even the most basic knowledge of economics.

Being so particular, TO is not even made by a US based company. It's Russian. And believe it or not, it has completed 7 years! If customers weren't satisfied and if it led to AP running out of business, well, it'd be out of business by now. Does it look like AP is going out of business anytime soon? Edited by beaku

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Guys do you see how much time you are wasting writing back to that guy?! Which btw do not actually play the game but still give his useful fun facts and conspiracy theories?!

I have lost one hour reading the full topic!

I agree with you on this. Anything I asked and commented it was not directed personally towards Wikileaks-tank. But I was just curious why someone is dividing players on political grounds in this Forum. Whoever it is. This is still a video game forum and this is not place for politics and politics are forbidden on this forum. On top of that most of the players are 12-17 years old, and since they do not have formed political stance and right to vote (I have get that right a long time ago, 1999. I voted first time 2000. If you wish to know) out of politeness and respect for the Forum and this community such things should be not asked and/or commented. And especially players should not be divided on political grounds.


Wikileaks-tank I notice a high amount of intelligence in your walls of text, I give you that. But still the lack of upbringing, understanding and respect towards other people in this community. If you focus your intelligence on the real and useful things it will be better for you. This is just my humble opinion and kind advice.

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Russia is different from the West. Apparently people are  not taught the importance of these things. It shows in the devs and it shows in the players.

Each country has its advantages and its disadvantages, there is no perfect country.

I do not really know the Russian economy, but I know very well another Russian branch of science. For example, in my profession (Mechanical Engineering) they are unmatched.


As for the developers skills in programming we have no right to judge them, because we do not know that people. We can only talk in a civilized manner about their plans (past, present and future) concerning the game we love. And that is all.

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You seem to be lacking basic knowledge of marketing and companies' management, because ALL THE COMPANIES on this planet must earn money to survive and they are not forced to listen to their costumers, they are "allowed" to do so. Meanwhile, ALL THE COMPANIES on this planet must follow marketing and financial plans — working for moneys.

All what i need to see

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All what i need to see

And? You are a Generalissimo, I thought you noticed this some months ago already. It is pretty obvious since it is something which is world-wide acknoweldged since it is part of standard companies' policies, not just Tanki Online.

 

Do you really think that companies can survive without working for moneys? We do not live in a magic / fantasy-like world, so there is nothing given for free, never.

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And? You are a Generalissimo, I thought you noticed this some months ago already. It is pretty obvious since it is something which is world-wide acknoweldged since it is part of standard companies' policies, not just Tanki Online.

 

Do you really think that companies can survive without working for moneys? We do not live in a magic / fantasy-like world, so there is nothing given for free, never.

Well, "they are not forced to listen to their costumers" If they work like this, the money doesnt come in so fast

If they would listen more to players, the money income would be a lot higher

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Well, "they are not forced to listen to their costumers" If they work like this, the money doesnt come in so fast

If they would listen more to players, the money income would be a lot higher

False, but for obvious reasons — listening to users is something, actually implementing what they suggest is another thing.

Devs indeed listen their users, trust me, but implementing what users suggest is hard to do since certain and specific plans are to be followed and there are more important priorities to process than implementing user-based ideas.

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False, but for obvious reasons — listening to users is something, actually implementing what they suggest is another thing.

Devs indeed listen their users, trust me, but implementing what users suggest is hard to do since certain and specific plans are to be followed and there are more important priorities to process than implementing user-based ideas.

Well, i dont know why but players are pretty ofter saying that devs dont listen to ideas :huh: :mellow:

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The reason i'm writing this us everyone these days are complaining whining whining whining and about update tanki makes. Daily missions? Players: Its so crap. Premium? Players: Its so not benificial. Paint seperation? Players: Tanki is so stupid and it sucks. You players these days ( not everyone but a majority of you) need stop stop whinign, acting like a 2 year old. There will be ALOT of updates along the way. You players can't go all negative. Think about the positive

First, we can "go all negative". If the update are bad I'll tell it. 

 

Second, are you a veteran player ? 

 

Third, Is complaining is "whining" then I think you should think again what complain is.

 

Forth, We don't stop "whinning" Because of us we have the V buttom. The please if you say it, do not use the V buttom (and you said it) ! 

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Well, I saw the prices of those modules and paints. Paints are even more expensive and moduls are even more expensive than paints before.

 

Such money sucking machines are Tanki Online developers :-)

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Well, i dont know why but players are pretty ofter saying that devs dont listen to ideas :huh: :mellow:

 

How many ideas are actually feasible and in line with TO strategy (if any). If i propose a tank with 3 tracks or unflipable tanks among others ideas and none of them are implemented, I will make a complain that they didn't listen, in all the topic i can find.

 

There is probably a couple of good idea but they can't be implemented for x reason (game structure, coding issue, time) you can't have all the idea updated at once either. Some good idea are just drown in the middle of the pile of useless posts and their potential overlooked as some people just keep attention to them. Losing crys is never a good news, that's why I don't do more than 15mins battles (always something can go wrong: servers busy, lags or broadband just died). Btw  "servers busy, lags or broadband just died" also exist on other online games (slither.io,...). Working on reducing it is always good on the server side and coding, but people can also buy better computers too. When it lags too much call a friend and play Combat: this lag free Tank game from good old time

 

On the other hand TO should be more careful on the communication prior to big change and be better at managing tankers expectation.

Paint changes is the best example, could the split, the new expensive paint and the new kit product update be all done at the same time? instead of 3 steps? or explain all the steps.

I didn't see the brand new scroll bar (too thin) on the shop, i had to go back after I saw the memes about it. A more obvious scroll bar or a longer window would definitely help to see that there is more option below (especially if you're new to the game, #justsaying).

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Well they should at least express the reasons behind the anger. Most players just spam the TO chat with hateful comments and think that will make things better. No. You need to give the Devs reasons & feedback and put it somewhere the devs will read it.

Ok! here you go! Problem-Buyers.

Anger- Buyers are OP

Reason- http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/dagelv/ im buyer and i have alot of m2 stuff when others are still on m1 items.

I have OP protections from most popular turrets and alot of drugs meaning those m1 guys hurt me the same like butterfly's when they bite! Thats right! They dont bite and that means i cant even feel those m1 guys!

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not whining about updates... im whining about the balance of teams lately.. i noticed there are not many good battles if you are in the middle ranks.

sometimes the rank discrepancies/differences are too big, its ridiculous.

 

im getting tired already of battles being won by the team with most drugs(yes its not new, but really not fun)... also situations wherein opponents are armed with kits, then use the 1 button excessively... i do not mind drug/supply using 2, 3, 4 or 5. but pressing 1 at the last minute...???

 

notice the battle scores lately on the CTF battles,  you get 10-1, or 38-10.. went to join an hour Noise battle where my team went up 17-10, then in the final 20 minutes lost 35-20... how can this happen?

 

tanki is really becoming a joke.

 

just an opinion... but i do hope you guys notice too.

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Please avoid using profane abbreviations.

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