Monthly review of work by Battle Violation Mods

[T.O.R_Klau 67]

I have an idea that might help stop multing:

Implement a change that will not allow anyone to sign in to two accounts at the same time from the same IP address.

Plus if you choose to leave the battle then you shouldn't be allowed to join the same battle with the same or a different account from the same IP address.

I'm sure this would ease the work of the mods.

 

How hard can it be to get this implemented?

[Rooky 414]

Not good music
Not good video

[LeIouch_Vi_Britannia 6,163]

You can't blame the developers for the game having mults, you just can't.

 

On another note, I was referring to in game bugs, like defects.

 

Here is a real life example for you, if you purchase an iPhone, and then you somehow drop it and the screen cracks, can you blame Apple for that? Nope. Same with mults, you can't blame devs.

 

Battle moderators are responsible for keeping saboteurs/hackers out of the game. Having more battle moderators would be beneficial to the game, but they wouldn't be able to stop every mult, sure the number of active mults dealt with would significantly increase if the number of battle moderators did, but still, there will always be mults that "get away"

 

Some players can help out, sometimes you have to do a bit of work from your end to make things right, and in this case, that applies. If a player is multing, a considerate player on the same team can record the mult sabotaging the team. Players can't expect mods to be on 24/7, they just can't, if a player votes the mult out, and doesn't record them, then a mod doesn't come, they really can't blame the mods, they can blame themselves for it, because it's not too difficult to record and report a mult. 

 

Some players just need to be vigilant with the developers, moderators, and admins. It would help a whole lot.

I see how much you want to make yourself look cute with these posts and get a job back in tanki,

 

But Devs are to be blamed because of mults, as I said, its not just some (which means very few), there are mults in 90% of the battles,

allowing them to be that many is because of the Devs' ignorance and no one else,  if there were faster ways of getting crystals,

no one would try multing etc to win and get those some crystals in the battle, people would get things they wanted, easier and

they wouldnt have to use mults,  but since the devs have made it so hard, people are kinda forced to,

 

 

and as I said, mults are ingame things, they are not out of the game, ruining it. and the blame is on devs and no one else,

please dont try to look cute to devs and the helpers team :)

[N.o.6.o.d.y 575]

:)

[LeIouch_Vi_Britannia 6,163]

I ain't being "cute", I'm being truthful and logical

 

 

 

Also when you say 90% of battles have mults, in the near 7 years I've been here I've only dealt with one mult, so if the percentage is 90%, I really don't know what universe you're from.

yea, truthful and logical, sure.

 

I battle a lot, a damn lot and I encounter a lot of mults, not my fault you just roam around and cant see any :lol:

[samosey 153]

According to you, which game rule did that player break?

now u put me in a tight spot.... i would say bullying

oh and he told me to shut the up a couple of times

Edited August 14, 2016 by I.Pro.the_best_re

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

I am truthful and logical :)

 

And about your mult issue, record and report them, I'm sure you know how to do that ;)

Video only catch the more obvious ones, Most of them go unnoticed or "insufficient proof to ban/block". :rolleyes:

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

yea, truthful and logical, sure.

 

I battle a lot, a damn lot and I encounter a lot of mults, not my fault you just roam around and cant see any :lol:

He must have battled with friends, but random vs randoms, you'll see the mults come like a plauge. :ph34r:

[CooperO 7,956]

now u put me in a tight spot.... i would say bullying

 

You can always block players who disturb you using Ignore option. 

As for that player taking a gold, there is no rule that prevents players from doing that, no matter how disappointing or annoying that can be. 

[samosey 153]

You can always block players who disturb you using Ignore option. 

As for that player taking a gold, there is no rule that prevents players from doing that, no matter how disappointing or annoying that can be. 

then yall should make a rule

[Hex 11,520]

How about a longer video showing us how battle mods get notified of battles with violators inside. How does the notification come, how do they join battles and see the players.

[Mr_STIFFLER 1,408]

How about a longer video showing us how battle mods get notified of battles with violators inside. How does the notification come, how do they join battles and see the players.

Be patient ;)

[sweet_hearth 9]

Be patient ;)

Agreed people should be patient and should be saying thank you to these guys for their hard work. I know these guys put in so much work and yet all you can do say how bad they are? 

[Miahak 1,596]

now u put me in a tight spot.... i would say bullying

oh and he told me to shut the up a couple of times

This was your mistake, you should not trust any random people unless you know the person/ your good friend. Since he started to insult you, you should just add violator to your block list and make a new map for STG. How can you trust someone who doesnt know how to respect others ;). Careful next time whom you do the stg with, otherwise it will be waste of your time and gold. :wub:

[K.a.M.a.JI 600]

Be patient ;)

One question please !

 

 

 

 

Why you use orange color in all replies? You are not in game violations section  :wacko:

 

 

 

[VaudeVille 1,428]

such long posts...:O

Ikr? :lol:

Earlier even I used to make long posts only to get quoted by someone with a longer post and arguments would go on endlessly, often veering off the topic and never reach any conclusions. Realizing the the futility of such arguments, I've decided to steer clear of hotly debated topics.

 

If there's anything I useful I can say here is that an efficient kick system will resolve MANY problems. ;)

Edited August 15, 2016 by VaudeVille

[Hex 11,520]

Agreed people should be patient and should be saying thank you to these guys for their hard work. I know these guys put in so much work and yet all you can do say how bad they are? 

Are you serious? All I did was write a suggestion and all you did was think I was being a impatient noob that was insulting them? Dude seriously, go mind your business if you want to talk like that  -_-

[T.O.R_Klau 67]

You can't blame the developers for the game having mults, you just can't.

 

On another note, I was referring to in game bugs, like defects.

 

Here is a real life example for you, if you purchase an iPhone, and then you somehow drop it and the screen cracks, can you blame Apple for that? Nope. Same with mults, you can't blame devs.

 

 

Actually yes, I would blame Apple for that. This is the primary reason why I didn't buy an iPhone.

I'm not about to pay hundreds of dollards for a phone which cracks from an accidental drop. People drop their phones at least once, why make it out of glass? I am very careful with my phone yet I still dropped it once on the street on hard concrete...if it was an iPhone it would have surely cracked into a million pieces.

Or at least give them protective cases...what the heck Apple? Do you WANT people to crack their screens every time they drop their phones?

Sheesh... 

 

Why are you defending Apple for making such a fragile product? Are you willing to buy and drive a car made out of carton? Knowing that as soon as you crash you will surely die??

Please let me know. I'm curious if you're that stubborn.

[T.O.R_Klau 67]

Here's a better example for you.

 

 

You buy a brand new 4K tv, and for some unknown reason, someone walks up to it and smashes it with a baseball bat, are you going to blame the company of the TV for that instance?

 

I do realize the Apple iPhone comparison was a bit inaccurate, but the example I provided above should be much more accurate. 

 

Just like if a hacker hacks your new computer, you going to blame the maker of the computer?

 

You simply can't rely on something/someone else, you have to be cautious, Apple isn't going to be on your back every time you drop and crack an iPhone.

 

Same thing with Tanki, they aren't going to always be there if a mult is in your battle, that's why there's a report section, because sometimes in life, you have to do some work to make something right.

 

And also, what brings a carton car into the conversation? Anyone with sense would know not to drive one, I'm not defending Apple, I'm just trying to give examples to clarify that battle mods aren't able to be in battles to deal with every violation 24/7

 

Ok that's a better comparison but not the most accurate because the TV company is not the one providing you the house or alarm system...they don't handle corruption.

I went a bit overboard with the car comparison. I apologize.

 

Another good comparison would be to be if you were in a football team and one of your team mates was good friends with the opposing team. During a big match he would be selling your team by making a deal with the opposing team by previously discussing with them on how he will give them the ball "by accident" and causing your team to lose.

I think this is called match fixing or corruption.

 

There is a solution for this. The coach notices this and will never ever put that played in his team again and hold him on the bench forever.

 

 

Anyways I think we all agree that something has to be done regarding the mults.

What bothers me is that no one took in consideration my suggestion to Implement a change that will not allow anyone to sign in to two accounts at the same time from the same IP address.

Plus if you choose to leave the battle then you shouldn't be allowed to join the same battle with the same or a different account from the same IP address.

 

I believe this is a good idea because some mults are playing with 2 accounts in the same battle. At least this way, the mult (friend) will be wasting his time.

 

Actually this is not the best solution because he will be waiting for a gold to drop...

About a year ago I saw someone suggesting a system where if more than 50% of the team vote you, then you will have to play really well by gathering a certain number of points, else you would be kicked out.

That's probably the best solution...if 6+ team mates vote you and you are on the last position in the team, you should be automatically kicked... because why not? Why wait for a moderator to come over and confirm what the whole team already agrees upon 100% ?

Edited August 18, 2016 by T.O.R_Klau

[TJ.RJ 206]

Why the battle mods are mysterious ?

[Maf 32,300]

Why the battle mods are mysterious ?

In what way?  :ph34r:

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

In what way?  :ph34r:

Nicknames (02-27) :ph34r: You never know who is behind the numbers :ph34r:

[Maf 32,300]

Nicknames (02-27) :ph34r: You never know who is behind the numbers :ph34r:

Oh that. I think it's because the battle_mod accounts are technical and have a lot of special stuff on them (not garage items, but permissions and stuff), so instead of adding all of that on the player's personal account when he/she becomes a battle_mod, they're just given access to one of the battle_mod accounts and if they leave the team then they lose access to the acc.

 

And maybe it's also to prevent any of the players getting PMs with complaints from players who think they got blocked unfairly, so the players' actual nicknames are kept anonymous.

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

Oh that. I think it's because the battle_mod accounts are technical and have a lot of special stuff on them (not garage items, but permissions and stuff), so instead of adding all of that on the player's personal account when he/she becomes a battle_mod, they're just given access to one of the battle_mod accounts and if they leave the team then they lose access to the acc.

 

And maybe it's also to prevent any of the players getting PMs with complaints from players who think they got blocked unfairly, so the players' actual nicknames are kept anonymous.

Yes, just like that. I have nothing to add :)

[theFiringHand 21,351]

It is tanki's prerogative to change paints, play contests and games, mess with balance of the game, and tell people how wrong they are about everything. But it is also their responsibility to provide a good product to the people paying the bills. You are not - you have supplied a product that crashes, lags, contains lots of cheaters and mults, and infuriating players with your lies and your changes. Find out how to fix YOUR issues then we'll figure out ours.

Actually, we're working pretty hard on doing just that. Also, I think your judgement is a little too harsh. The game has problems, yes I admit, but it's not the hopeless mess you seem to imply it is.