1 vs 1 battles, do they prove skills?

[dan146_tanker 770]

I disagree on that one. I have seen players winning almost every 1v1 they do, but when they join team battles. They end up saying noob team and leave.

Well was the team noob?

[Cyborg 3,189]

Well was the team noob?

I don't think so, because they ended up winning with a decent lead.

[K.a.M.a.JI 600]

Duels skills just helps you when you face one player in team battles and it happens a lot, it may make you lose the flag, save it, etc

and there is a difference between a pro player who got skills in duels and a pro player who got some tricks in specific map like Sandbox, the first player can play well in team battles, while the second one will just press ENTER and type "noob team" and leave the battle.

[T.A.K.E-O.V.E.R 59]

Yes, 1 v 1 battle do prove skills.

[dan146_tanker 770]

I don't think so, because they ended up winning with a decent lead.

If the team won without drugs they were PRO team.

[stawp_thundertime 275]

I think 1v1s prove more about the players way of thinking, than skill.

I think it's about pacing. 1v1s can get really slow, if the enemy is unwilling to take risks those types of duelists can win all the battles they want, but they'll still be campers who only rely on advatagious positions or the impatience of the opponent.

On the contrary some players can make the game fast paced by using larger variety of tactics. i always respect these guys more. Barely no-one only camps or only offends; that would be predictable and easy to fight against, but you can definetly see which strategy the player prefers.

Campers are usually rekt on normal games, becouse you can't just stick to a few basic teqniques when you are facing a team of varying hulls and guns and have a team of your own to support.

Also, people who noobcall/act disrespectfully to their opponents are usually the same people who can't see why they lost or won; it's not about using and learning skills to win, to them it's about winning to boost their ego.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

1v1 does not prove anything to those who are too scared to get in one. THAT is the bottom line. I have had many of the so-called "great and bad -a" players refuse to 1v1 because they don't want to be embarrassed.

Or I don't feel like feeding someone's ego.

I think if I prove myself while they whine about things I did that annoyed them I think I'm good enough.

Besides, better to live with the satisfaction of having nothing at stake. On the other hand, if I were famous or had some reason to want to keep a reputation, I guess it's a viable alternative to simply ignoring the salty Rail that sent the invitation.

[lukey0 27,543]

1v1 literally proves nothing. Its 100% luck.

[stawp_thundertime 275]

1v1 literally proves nothing. Its 100% luck.

Not sure if sarcasm or a plain out ignorant statement :unsure:

[lukey0 27,543]

Not sure if sarcasm or a plain out ignorant statement :unsure:

I call it short sharp and shiny.  No need to sugar coat it. :P

 

But honestly, its always the same excuses. "You lagger noob!" "You started early noob!" "I said pause noob!" "axaxa noob runner!" etc.

 

If its a small map the first person to hit the enemy/capture a flag generally wins most of the time.

 

[stawp_thundertime 275]

I call it short sharp and shiny.  No need to sugar coat it. :P

 

But honestly, its always the same excuses. "You lagger noob!" "You started early noob!" "I said pause noob!" "axaxa noob runner!" etc.

 

If its a small map the first person to hit the enemy/capture a flag generally wins most of the time.

Indeed there are safe teqniques that allow you to rely on the lead of 1 shot/ cap. But those only work if your enemy isn't skilled enough to make you lose focus and allows you to only work with safe shots. These kinds of safe teqniques work well only when the enemy is campy and predictable. Which i do aknowledge many for being, having plaid large amount of 1v1 sandboxes when i was active on stawp.

But there is definetly skill involved: knowing the map, which positions are safer/quaranteed for a hit, where and when you should die or take a hit, controlling supplies by trying to pace the game in a manner suitable for you, being able to land harder shots take harder routes,  luring your opponent to make dumb choises in general, flipping enemies, utilising your corpse/flipped tank, getting on top/under enemies, being unpredictable in general etc.

Ofc. luck such as server lag and net connection play a role, and there are people who make up their own rules and or utilise the kindness of their opponent to get another meaningless win, but it's definetly not 100% that bs.

[Metaphor 538]

I call it short sharp and shiny.  No need to sugar coat it. :P

 

But honestly, its always the same excuses. "You lagger noob!" "You started early noob!" "I said pause noob!" "axaxa noob runner!" etc.

 

If its a small map the first person to hit the enemy/capture a flag generally wins most of the time.

Solution: Go on Duel *Drops microphone and self-destructs*

[jdc20181 213]

NO

 

Why?

 

Because just because you can shoot some 15 million times, using twins or a firebird for example those are  "powerful" weapons and can knock you over and such. 

 

The only Real skill is being able to work with a team, and getting the goal done, no not everyone can cap a flag me included, yes i have before and no i am no "Noob" I am a experienced Shaft player. I perfer it over anything, in other words- my role is Defense, while a isda with hornet may be the flag carrier. 

 

I find that to be where skill is being able to do your part to reach the common goal. 

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

Because just because you can shoot some 15 million times, using twins or a firebird for example those are  "powerful" weapons and can knock you over and such.

Firebird? :blink:

[BLASTER872 1,892]

NO

 

Why?

 

Because just because you can shoot some 15 million times, using twins or a firebird for example those are  "powerful" weapons and can knock you over and such. 

 

The only Real skill is being able to work with a team, and getting the goal done, no not everyone can cap a flag me included, yes i have before and no i am no "Noob" I am a experienced Shaft player. I perfer it over anything, in other words- my role is Defense, while a isda with hornet may be the flag carrier. 

 

I find that to be where skill is being able to do your part to reach the common goal. 

Agreed except the hornet isida part, that makes 1 target not 2

[ArcadeMode_ON 155]

I think duelist goes under the category of Specialist - like XP/BP. One can be bad at dueling but a master at their position/role in team play.

 

I think the ultimate test of skill is in a DM with your favorite combination.

Edited September 28, 2016 by ArcadeMode_ON

[Real_Uchiha_Sasuke 189]

 simply NO

[LoganFranlkin171998 69]

Not really, since the last time I did a 1 v 1, the player I battled with had all M2 equipment, whereas I'm stuck with an M1 Viking and M1 Shaft, which of course is my fault, but if I could use anything else if they were M1, I still would have lost. Plus the fact the user was drugging the whole way, where i only used two double armor pieces. At the end of the match, I lost by one kill...so to put it short, I'd say I'm the better skilled player to have had less powerful equipment, nor any drugs other than 5 consumable double armor which I only used two of.

 

Most people like to challenge people to 1 v 1 battles they know they can beat, therefore making them unfair.

[Jboymark53 508]

Not really, since the last time I did a 1 v 1, the player I battled with had all M2 equipment, whereas I'm stuck with an M1 Viking and M1 Shaft, which of course is my fault, but if I could use anything else if they were M1, I still would have lost. Plus the fact the user was drugging the whole way, where i only used two double armor pieces. At the end of the match, I lost by one kill...so to put it short, I'd say I'm the better skilled player to have had less powerful equipment, nor any drugs other than 5 consumable double armor which I only used two of.

 

Most people like to challenge people to 1 v 1 battles they know they can beat, therefore making them unfair.

True.

[X_Death.By.Me_X 1,503]

If you play too much XP 1v1, you might be having trouble in team XP/BP battles due to different pace of game play. If you suck at team XP battles, then XP is not your thing you should change to free format. In a 1 vs 1 of skilled XP players, it all comes down to who has more patience to camp in one spot. One mistake and it goes downhill. I don't think 1 v 1 battles prove skills.

[BLASTER872 1,892]

Not really, since the last time I did a 1 v 1, the player I battled with had all M2 equipment, whereas I'm stuck with an M1 Viking and M1 Shaft, which of course is my fault, but if I could use anything else if they were M1, I still would have lost. Plus the fact the user was drugging the whole way, where i only used two double armor pieces. At the end of the match, I lost by one kill...so to put it short, I'd say I'm the better skilled player to have had less powerful equipment, nor any drugs other than 5 consumable double armor which I only used two of.

 

Most people like to challenge people to 1 v 1 battles they know they can beat, therefore making them unfair.

It's not your fault, I had no M2s until your rank

 

And the M2 I bought was so bad I favored my at the time Twins M1 over it (it was Isida)

 

So I only had anything useful at 1st lt.

[kmpa 830]

it proves a skill in duel mode and nothing more than that. if you want to argue that winning a duel means that you are also better in teams, then you are definitely wrong. 

 

In duels you focus on yourself and one enemy. In the most popular 6v6 team battle mode you focus on yourself, 5 team mates and 6 enemies. 

 

Two completely different settings.

[xxElyxx 275]

Being a good duelist doesn't mean that you are a good team player, and being a good team player doesn't mean that you are a good duelist, but being a good duelist and a good team player does prove that you are a good player.

[Reckoning 178]

1 v 1 battles do have some point.

[Devin_The_Armageddon 30]

Duels in TDM or DM on a symmetrical map like Duel or randomly spawning map like Polygon are good representations of skill: You see who is better at avoiding blows, and who is better at dishing them out.

 

CTF duels are mainly determined by where people spawn, which isn't very interesting.