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The best version of the Tanki Online  

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  1. 1. Should a diffrent version of the game (Not Tanki X) be added to the game?

    • Yes
      8
    • No
      22
  2. 2. When the game was the best? (Your opinion)

    • 2009
      1
    • 2010
      0
    • 2011
      0
    • 2012
      2
    • 2013
      9
    • 2014
      10
    • 2015
      4
    • I'm enjoying the game right now.
      6
    • I'm hyped for Tanki X
      1


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Tanki Online is a great game, but a lot of people have noticed that the game is dying, and it has the reason.
 

Regarding all the bad updates in the past, but regarding what Albert Einstein said :

"A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new."

 

But is it too late to fix the mistakes? The answer is NO.

One of the options to make this game better is to add the version of the game that everyone did like and it's the reason I'm creating this post. Please vote when this game was best?

 

Please reply what should not the older version of the game have? (If the game developers will respond to this post)

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Tanki had problems the whole time. A lot of the problems from 2009 got fixed, a lot of things were improved. A ton of new features has been added and major changes have been made, which resulted in new issues that need solutions. People say that the main issue right now is the fact that the game became too expensive and it's nearly impossible for free players to compete on the same level as someone who buys a lot of crystals for money, but I think that even despite that there has been a massive overall improvement in the game and the current version is a far superior to what we had around 2010 in terms of everything: gameplay, variety, features, optimisation, etc.

 

I don't see what you mean by "different version". Tanki X is already a different version that's being developed. Or are you asking whether an older version of the game should be restored?

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Tanki had problems the whole time. A lot of the problems from 2009 got fixed, a lot of things were improved. A ton of new features has been added and major changes have been made, which resulted in new issues that need solutions. People say that the main issue right now is the fact that the game became too expensive and it's nearly impossible for free players to compete on the same level as someone who buys a lot of crystals for money, but I think that even despite that there has been a massive overall improvement in the game and the current version is a far superior to what we had around 2010 in terms of everything: gameplay, variety, features, optimisation, etc.

 

I don't see what you mean by "different version". Tanki X is already a different version that's being developed. Or are you asking whether an older version of the game should be restored?

I'm talking about adding separate older version of Tanki

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Tanki Online is a great game, but a lot of people have noticed that the game is dying, and it has the reason.

 

Regarding all the bad updates in the past, but regarding what Albert Einstein said :

"A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new."

 

But is it too late to fix the mistakes? The answer is NO.

One of the options to make this game better is to add the version of the game that everyone did like and it's the reason I'm creating this post. Please vote when this game was best?

 

Please reply what should not the older version of the game have? (If the game developers will respond to this post)

i guess it was all the good until prospects of 2 new turrets came and..alterations, i hate that :wacko:

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I'm talking about adding separate older version of Tanki

I'm more than certain they won't do it. Maybe eventually they will release something like a small demo of an earlier version for those who want it so badly, but releasing a full-scale game using an older version will never be profitable as the only players using it will be a few thousand nostalgic people and maybe some curious newbies.

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HHHHHHHH how would you know Hazel? I'll tell you how to do it for a fee. I have forgotten more about programming than you will ever know.

 

His translating machine made a mistake. Technically should be financially. Add a 'r' between 'f' and 'e' in the word fee and he'll accept. :ph34r: No no, jk.

 

 

For me, the game was at its best just before the introduction of Vulcan. It's too OP and it destroys so many battles. The good old times with Ranking Cups, SL, clan tournaments,... in other words without a dead EN community qua eSports. 

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how would you know Hazel? I'll tell you how to do it for a fee.

+ Additional servers

+ Separated customer support team

+ New domain for the game

+ Old inefficient payment section

+ Additional payment section contracts

+ Servers maintaining specialists

+ Traffic redirection from main game

+ Less content (no gold boxes, turrets and paints)

+ Compromised old version of anticheat system

+ Additional DDoS protection

+ Additional dev-team, cm-team and project manager

= Around 30 000$ ~ 50 000$ per month estimates which will not be covered by players of the old version.

 

Go on. Tell me your fee, I wonder.

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His translating machine made a mistake. Technically should be financially. Add a 'r' between 'f' and 'e' in the word fee and he'll accept. :ph34r: No no, jk.

 

Actually, no. Technically is the right word here. You can see here why:

 

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Actually, no. Technically is the right word here. You can see here why:

 

~video

It was a joke. Don't take it serious.  :lol:

 

Now you'll say you didn't.

 

Though this:

 

 

= Around 30 000$ ~ 50 000$ per month estimates which will not be covered by players of the old version.

 

 

 

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Problems: Everything

Solutions: Stop making so many updates, no need to update every 5 minutes, k.

Take supplies (not pickups) out of the game this isn't the old tanki is supposed to be a fair version.

Buyer... I thought tanki was free. Kits are so expensive you HAVE to buy crystals to get them. People leave the game cause everyone has OP equipement apart from them. Do more sales for things. Kits are supposed to be better value for money but since this new update its cheaper to buy your items seperate without protection. This is Tanki and its supposed to welcome all, its not supposed to be buy or bye -_- .

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Stop making so many updates, no need to update every 5 minutes, k.

Sorry, but retrospectively your suggestion doesn't make much sense. There were times when this game haven't seen updates in almost half a year. It was even more than that when TO 2.0 development wasn't canceled.

 

Right now this game got somewhat unique chance to be quickly updated with content and important systems it haven't seen in years. We shouldn't miss this chance. I understand that experiencing the game while it is actively evolving is not a stellar experience, but asking to hold on updates might result in some updates never ever happen.

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Tanki can make stupid updates, add features to the game which make it worse, but they cant fix their goddamn servers and oh, the lag.

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Now you'll say you didn't. Though this: ...

Well yeah! Financial reasons are there as well. But as long as TS stated his idea as... "to add the version of the game" technically is still the right word.

You can't technically add it. You can only make another one. And that is financially impossible.

 

I dodged it, you've got to admit :D

 

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Tanki can make stupid updates, add features to the game which make it worse, but they cant fix their goddamn servers and oh, the lag.

Yeah about that last thing you've mentioned. There are some things going on under the hood to tackle this issue, but I can't spoil anything right now  :ph34r:

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Yeah about that last thing you've mentioned. There are some things going on under the hood to tackle this issue, but I can't spoil anything right now  :ph34r:

There is only one way: buy a better computer: D

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Problems: Everything

Solutions: Stop making so many updates, no need to update every 5 minutes, k.

Take supplies (not pickups) out of the game this isn't the old tanki is supposed to be a fair version.

Buyer... I thought tanki was free. Kits are so expensive you HAVE to buy crystals to get them. People leave the game cause everyone has OP equipement apart from them. Do more sales for things. Kits are supposed to be better value for money but since this new update its cheaper to buy your items seperate without protection. This is Tanki and its supposed to welcome all, its not supposed to be buy or bye -_- .

Did you realy thought tanki was free, or meant to be free? Do you think that the people who make tanki and everything around tanki are doing this for free? Are they living from the air? This is just income for them so of course they do everything to try to get money out of you: in the beginning everything is cheap and once you are hooked to the game you need to pay money to get the good stuff. I think this is perfectly normal for a game. Stop whining about the people who do spend money on the game: draw your wallet, spend some money and buy crystals! Games on the xbox/ps aren't free either so if you spend hundreds of hours on this game: pay some money!

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^Let's not take him as our black sheep and act as if he doesn't do anything. I must agree on the fact players have been complaining about daily issues such as lag and mults for over a year now without any actions taken to solve suchlike issues, or without any remarkable results at least. Have you got things planned in this area as well?

 

Well yeah! Financial reasons are there as well. But as long as TS stated his idea as... "to add the version of the game" technically is still the right word.

You can't technically add it. You can only make another one. And that is financially impossible.

 

I dodged it, you've got to admit :D

 

:lol: You dodged it. :D

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YOU can't fix it.

YOU put everything under single complaint (sorry, hard to resist answering back with capital letters >_

 

Let's keep things separated:

 

1) Lags and server stability.

DDoS protection is being installed. Certain server are being attacked whole summer. This is annoying but certain "players" do think that DDoS is a good way of politely asking to unblock cheating accounts (not gonna happen) This is hugely uncomfortable, but harware solution is being currently installed.

 

2) General server lags

That is being always around. Currently server's memory usage and stability is under revision. Some changes were already made, you can see that on servers load. It is more evenly spread. Additional steps are being made.

 

3) Some web browsers are huge pain

Everybody hates Flash this days. We hate it more than everybody else. This is why our next steps are i) to introduce downloadable client ii) to move entire game to WebGL.

 

4) Game crashes

This is why specifically we hate Flash. It doesn't let us inside deep enough to fix certain visual memory leaks. We can't fix it, only they can do it. And they ignore this issue. This is why we are working towards WebGL.

 

5) Mults

Oh yeah, I love it! It took some time and beating of certain persons to explain why this ruins end game and how it should be fixed. Clans will do alot for major force of team players. Matchmaking will do the rest. This is what currently under development and will not be delayed anymore.

 

6) Cheaters

My personal #1 why I hate MMO games. Anti cheat can do so far, but certain things can not be fixed with our type of server-client communication. This is why I asked CTO to move in different direction. They think it is good idea to locate our variables in machine memory so they can create cheat clients? Ok, we will make it impossible to keep this clients working. But first there are some things needed to be done with our downloadable client to make it happen.

 

Are there any "solutions" to nerf equipment and stuff? Seems not. When last nerfing took place? Seems like over a... year... ago. Are devs so stupid they make content while there are major issues with game systems and expect people to pay as it is nothing? Nope.

 

You've might have noticed that last few month there are more updates then a year before? Some things did changed. This changes were inside of dev team. This is also why I can't say more :D Personally I am not that kind of guy who talks about how things are changed and there will be better tommorow. Sorry, grim russian character doesn't allow me to speak fabulous predictions of wonderful opportunities. I love to make things happen, so people can see my words, rather than listen.

 

Also, about that "I have heard there are "some things going on under the hood" for, what, 8-9 months." For me it wasn't 8-9 months. I heard this words 4 years ago. Made me so mad about it I joined dev team to change some things.

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You've might have noticed that last few month there are more updates then a year before? Some things did changed. This changes were inside of dev team. This is also why I can't say more :D Personally I am not that kind of guy who talks about how things are changed and there will be better 

You might have*

 

 

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Thank you very much for your detailed explanation . Thanks for making things clearer. :)

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What I don't understand is why the European servers lag like crazy. In 2014, you could easily find 120K players online at any given time, and the servers ran just fine. Now, with less than 50K players and only 6 EN servers, the servers lag more than ever before. That doesn't make any sense!

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