Facing the hard truth : Coping with Mults, Sabotage and Cheaters

[Maf 32,300]

This doesn't happen in real life, when your life depends on your team. 

If you're talking about friendly fire, then it's literally the opposite! In real war your life DOES depend on your team because one wrong move and they could accidentally shoot you, throw a grenade at you, etc.  In tanki, teammates' weapons only deal knockback to you, but no damage. This makes it so that the only way for your teammates to kill you is by pushing you off, which isn't much of a problem.

[Canada_wins 145]

But in real life having soldiers in your squadron refuse to help your squad rarely ever happens and when it does it almost never is because they are intentionally trying to help the opposing military...therefore "friend fire protection" is needed in Tanki.

[Electra 733]

But in real life having soldiers in your squadron refuse to help your squad rarely ever happens and when it does it almost never is because they are intentionally trying to help the opposing military...therefore "friend fire protection" is needed in Tanki.

Yup, in your eyes it's usefull, but so many tankers destroy this solution to kill teammates without reasons. 

[Ninja 10,468]

Was it in parkour mode?

[HiS.RoYaL.HiGhNeSs 2,036]

 

Topic merged.

[Canada_wins 145]

I have recently seen all 3 supplies instantaneously activated without picking up any boxes.

That is hacking.

But I rarely see that type of hacking.

[Canada_wins 145]

And they were not PRO battles.

Edited April 24, 2017 by Canada_wins

[cuk_a_gek 0]

some body knows what to do  , if you have a cheating in the battle and its going just too hard to folowing the moves of the tank .

 

Last time i sow a tank may be  you know him it name is [name removed] that tank was using a cheat whitch made possible hard moveing from point A to point B it was just a second from one flag to the otherone .

 

a three times in a few seconds .

 

its possible to fight back somehow ? :unsure:

Edited April 27, 2017 by BlackWasp777
Please don't accuse players in the forum of cheating; if you have a video based prove you can report them in the apropriate section. ty.

[TARGET-X-ACQUIRED 23]

i see that in tanki x players have the ability to use spectator mode. its a very novel approach and i would like to see it implemented in TO. i dont no how long it would take the devs to set up but if you gave it to the clan players only it would im sure be a good way of preventing some players from cheating...ie.... hackers. i have been in numerous battles were a player are players have simply disappeared right in front of me and reappeared usually behind me and hence have a huge advantage. i was in 1 battle were the cheat (thats what they are) disappeared with the flag and seconds later had capped it. another trick these cheats use is the ability to either go under are over you thus preventing you from stopping them by fair means. the clan system was and still is a great idea, but its role as a way of preventing cheats mults etc is not working. im sure if these cheats new that there every move was being watched and recorded it would drastically cut out this blight in the game. another idea i highly recommend is giving the players a way of recording this (mabey something in the settings.) one more thing, the voting system in battle is a good idea but takes far to long and you need most of your team to vote, and even then most of the time a mod does not intervene to get get rid of the offending player. i think my suggestions are a much better way of tackling the growing amount of cheaters in the game. ive been playing TO for about three years now and for the most part the changes have been good. i enjoy the game very much but it is going down hill very quickly in regards to tackling the increasing problem of CHEATS. ps even if you just gave these abilities to clan leaders it would be a welcome start to eradicating a growing stigma in the game. ....

Edited May 18, 2017 by TARGET-X-ACQUIRED

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

cheats, cheats, cheats

Topic merged

 

I know your idea's title was about spectator mode, but

1) this ideas are not accepted as we have the hire a spectator service, and

2) your idea seems to fit better into this anti cheat topic.

[Hate 5,582]

 

Topic merged

 

In my opinion hackers who violate the Game rules should be reported in the sections which are appropriate for reporting rule violations. The section called ''Game violations''. may be used to report hacking of any kind in the game and before creating a new topic there read the section rules carefully, This is the only way to help others and reduce their numbers, I know that many players are too lazy or don't record but if you can, than definitely it is worth doing! 

[TARGET-X-ACQUIRED 23]

Topic merged

 

I know your idea's title was about spectator mode, but

1) this ideas are not accepted as we have the hire a spectator service, and

2) your idea seems to fit better into this anti cheat topic.

ok i didnt realise this about how u can hire a spectator ...but.... surly giving this ability to at least clan leaders would have a much better impact on mults hacks cheats etc.trust me the amount of cheats in the game is escalating  to a point that is getting out of hand, i would say 50% of my battles involves unfair game play. admin has to tackle this problem with authority and very stiff punishments only then will the cheats learn they cannot get away with it anymore.my clan leader has 100% proof of cheating going on in our battles but when he broaches the subject to any mod with authority he gets no positive response.our clan has been accused of cheating...WE NEVER CHEAT.... and when we ask those accusing us they never have evidence. cheating in the game in any form must be a top priority of admin. im getting fed up of losing battles to hacks who otherwise do not have the ability to beat me on fair terms.surly the devs can overcome and out think these cheating b....... please do your utmost to overcome these cheats and help out the players who in battle abide by the rules. sincerely T A .

[TARGET-X-ACQUIRED 23]

 

P.s if nothing is done about these cheating hacking low life mults then what is the point of having topics like this in the game.

 

 

 

Every account Tanki blocks is a potential customer lost. Punishments are necessary, but not so severe.

 

Absolute rubbish...these hacking cheating low life misfits should be kicked out forever. are the true colours showing to much ...money is needed to keep the game going i agree but not at the expense of letting these cheating underhand lying hacking mults stay in the game...get your priorities right admin ...do the right thing and stand by the players who dont cheat and uphold your rules.

Edited May 18, 2017 by Hate
Posts merged, please kindly avoid using caps.

[Hate 5,582]

my clan leader has 100% proof of cheating going on in our battles but when he broaches the subject to any mod with authority he gets no positive response.'

 

You do have some valid points but at the same time, you seem to be missing a lot. Let me start with this, you said that your Clan leader has 100% proof of cheating. Since you said that it it 100% and not even 99%, I would definitely recommend you to do the following thing. Hackers who violate the Game rules should be reported in the sections which are appropriate for reporting rule violations. The section called ''Game violations''. may be used to report hacking of any kind in the game. Before creating a new topic there read the section rules carefully. Since you seem to have a decent proof as you are claiming, I'm sure they will do something about it if the proof you have meets required things which you can find in that topic if you read the section rules¨carefully. There is no point going to a moderator to show him/her the proof you, that section is meant for it such things,

[Guest TSY_the_crazy]

I have feeling that Damny is a mult :ph34r: Otherwise, he wouldn't be so slow...

[Hate 5,582]

Absolute rubbish...these hacking cheating low life misfits should be kicked out forever. are the true colours showing to much ...money is needed to keep the game going i agree but not at the expense of letting these cheating underhand lying hacking mults stay in the game...get your priorities right admin ...do the right thing and stand by the players who dont cheat and uphold your rules.

 

My fellow tanker, you do realize that there is no complete ending for cheaters and hackers in all games right? There are several ways to reduce them and fight against them but there is no such thing as completely 100% stopping them with one update and I know you didn't say it but I'm just pointing it out.  Let me say this, TO is fighting against hackers day in day out. Whenever cheats come out the devs start blocking them or at least finding a way to do so.

 

Look at some of the old updates TO released to fight against hackers and cheaters. Check the spoiler below.

 

 

July 3 (1.93.0)

- Added the ability to complain about a player in battle through a battle command.

28 April (1.79.0)

Refined the anticheat system

May 3 (1.79.1)

Improved the anti-cheat system

May 18 (1.82.0)

Improved the anti-cheat system.

May 31 (1.85.0)

- Added monitoring of the battle (spectator mode for moderators).

- Added and improved the anti-cheat system.

June 6 (1.87.0)

- Improved the anti-cheat system.

 

And much much more if we add up all the changes and updates they released since these are the old ones which you can find on your own if you want to. (:

 

 

Due to these efforts there are lesser and lesser cheats that work on Tanki.

 

Some players might say and suggest that it is better to do the IP blocking for all hackers and cheaters and there are few reasons why that isn't possible or why TO isn't doing that. Let me give you some examples.

 

• Some providers in some countries do not offer fixed IPs, they keep on changing meaning that means that TO can keep banning changing IPs forever.
• In some countries, providers offer the same IP to everyone. Meaning that by banning one cheater, they are banning a whole city or state.
• And lastly but not the least, families play Tanki together. If one of the family members is a cheater, it doesn't mean they have to punish the whole family.

TO is definitely doing something about it which is why you don't see hackers in every single battle you play, every time you log in and the situation is not as bad as it was, now that the devs are fighting a winning battle. Allow me to say that the battle against cheats/hackers is not over and which is why from time to time we all will meet/see them in some battle(s). 

 

For now, TO is focusing on finishing the mach making system, moving from Flash to HTML5 and the release of TO for smart phones. After they do this, as they said... they will start focusing on other things like the anti-cheat system and other minor things. Some things are more important than others, for now this is what what they are doing.

 

We can all co-operate and work together to prevent hackers by reporting them in the right section which I mentioned in my earlier post if you want. I'm sure me, you or anyone else out there can do it. :)

[Defense 25]

Perhaps tanki should be more adamant in their recruitment for battle mods; players who are passionate about the well being of the game. I feel the battle mods are stretched too thin, and with an increased 'supply' the mult problem could be easily fixed. (also, I am going to post the ability to select a reason for voting a player in the ideas and suggestions section, as it may help mods decide which battles to prioritize spectating)

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Perhaps tanki should be more adamant in their recruitment for battle mods; players who are passionate about the well being of the game. I feel the battle mods are stretched too thin, and with an increased 'supply' the mult problem could be easily fixed. (also, I am going to post the ability to select a reason for voting a player in the ideas and suggestions section, as it may help mods decide which battles to prioritize spectating)

According to some posts from admins in the forum, the battle mod has the most critical profile, when it comes to personality, matureness and integrity.

I guess that such a profile is very rare, given the average age in the communities. And those who are grown up already, have jobs or attend extended education, so that they lack the time. Of course there are exceptions.. we have those mature players.. but from those few you then have to find one that has the time, passion and the will to do it (instead of investing his passion and time in skilling up or in his education in the real world or something like that).

 

That's simply rare material.

[M0nkey_D_Luffy 0]

i would like to buy alienware laptop........it rocks........

Alienware is 30%+ in costs, just for the brand. go for an AMDI pc, off the AMDI account on amazon. They are reliable and have a better warranty.

[Hate 5,582]

I agree with BlackWasp, that itself is something that not everyone has/have with is what makes it the rare material he mentioned.

[a7x_Pedro48 13,999]

This "material" is so rare that even some actual battle mods don't have it. I saw it myself in some battles, with clear mults, the BM came and nothing happened.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

This "material" is so rare that even some actual battle mods don't have it. I saw it myself in some battles, with clear mults, the BM came and nothing happened.

maybe he lagged out? :P  (nah, just kidding ;))

[a7x_Pedro48 13,999]

I played Arena CP. There was a Titan-Shaft in our team. He barely captured the point, only camped. We voted him, mod came and he got disconnected and banned one day.
 
A few days later, Arena CP, again another fa... huh emm, I mean player with Titan Shaft. Only camping, never capturing. We voted him, a mod came and what was the result? "No violation here". :lol: :lol: :lol: Are you kidding me? The guy is not capturing, but no violation? Because of this fu... euhhh hum freaking mult ^_^ , we lost the battle.
 
Why a same situation does not get the same result? I know this is at the discretion of the mods, but I mean, come on, this was a clear violation of the rules, and only one case was handled correctly with the player disconnected and banned.

__________

 

 

 

maybe he lagged out? :P  (nah, just kidding ;))

No, I mean he came in the battle, and with a perfect english, told us that there was no violation here. Edited June 3, 2017 by a7x_Pedro48

[Canada_wins 145]

Why would a Shaft try to capture a flag?

That's a foolish decision with that type of turret...

[Maf 32,300]

Why would a Shaft try to capture a flag?

That's a foolish decision with that type of turret...

I know right. Real attackers use Magnum!  B)