Alterations, Kits and Supplies Kits!

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Additionally... Small supplies kits will be available in the garage only, while big supplies kits (more than 100 pieces) will only be available in the Shop.

Current prices:

100 supplies kit - 17.5k

1500 supplies kit - 105k

 

As the 1500 supplies kit is vanishing from the garage, we could buy them using the 100 supplies kits instead.

15 x 100 supplies kits - 262.5k

 

Time will tell if buyers will benefit from the same discounts as before and if they do get a similar discount then the gap between buyers and f2p players will widen still.

 

 

 

 

We always stated very clearly that all the equipment in the game can be earned by earning crystals from playing i.e. no need to buy anything. Then the Premium paint came along, and it offered +15% to buyers. And suddenly, the statement we had made became false. Suddenly, buyers had an advantage over non-buyers, because they could purchase 15% protection that non-buyers could never have access to.

 

That is precisely why Premium had its protections removed. I know this has upset quite a few of you, and I'm sorry about that. But as it was, the mechanism went against Tanki Online's biggest promise. That said, I'm sure we'll find a way to make it up to Premium buyers.

 

If the 1500 supplies kit in the shop costs the equivalent of purchasing 262.5k crystals then there will be no advantage for buyers. But something tells me it won't cost anywhere near that and I'm guessing buyers will have an advantage over non-buyers, a mechanism which goes against Tanki Online's biggest promise.  What's that smell?

[Maf 32,300]

Your injured so press 1

That's the most primitive way to go about using supplies. "press 1 as soon as you get hit" is what someone would do if they have a lot of supplies and not enough brain to use them well. But have you thought about the following strategies?:

• If you have DA or DD active, wait until the 30 second cooldown is over before activating the repair kit. If you activate DA, get shot, and activate the repair 28 seconds later, you will have to wait another 15 seconds before you can activate DD, while if you waited 2 more seconds before repairing, you could activate DD first and THEN repair, so that you would get 15 seconds of DA+DD power.
• If you are a light hull or your health is over 50%, wait until you fight someone else and only then activate the repair kit. If you heal your tank while not being attacked, most of the time you lose a lot of healing potential because the repair kit continues working a bit longer after you are already healed. If instead you wait until you are fighting another tank or going through an area where you are most likely going to get shot, then you can get the full healing power from the repair kit.
• When fighting against a Railgun (and in some other situations as well), after you get shot once and are left with very low health it's good to activate your repair kit just as you are about to get shot again so that you are healed to full just before you are shot, and then healed to full again since the same repair kit still has half of its power left.

Those are just examples of tactical use of only the repair kit. It gets a lot more complicated when you include all other supplies in the mix. This is why I like supplies in general, but hate the fact that buying a lot of them can compensate for any lack of skill in their use.

[Maf 32,300]

Mr. Debono

 

some one did a chart about pricing in other country's and they found that the Russians still had advantageous over others..

 

if someone knows where that chart went to i would greatly appreciate it being posted for all to see...

Read this post.

[Viking4s 10,791]

Pigeons

 Small supplie kit will be available in the garage only (for pigeons), while big supplies kits (more than 100 pieces) will only be available in the Shop (for hunters).

This game is now a pigeon shoots game.

 

Buyer on the left (M4, DD,DA,SB, RK and Liquide Metal paint). Pigeon on the right (M0 and metallic paint).

Edited September 21, 2016 by Viking4s

[Maf 32,300]

If the 1500 supplies kit in the shop costs the equivalent of purchasing 262.5k crystals then there will be no advantage for buyers. But something tells me it won't cost anywhere near that and I'm guessing buyers will have an advantage over non-buyers, a mechanism which goes against Tanki Online's biggest promise.  What's that smell?

It's not the fact that buyers can get supplies very cheap - it's the fact that supplies suddenly became a lot more expensive for players as we can no longer use the 80% discount that came with the kit. With the current prices for supplies, every free player who has less than 1000 supplies now will eventually run out and there will be no way for them to get their supply stocks back up. The only escape will be the limited choice of PRO battles, and that is only for high ranks. Low ranks are doomed to suffer.

[ethanisme 1,115]

Yay!

[thunderevenge 39]

That's nice but it is sad that big supplies kits are only in the shop... It's like saying that only buyers are allowed to use supplies hardcore!!

[Viking4s 10,791]

It's not the fact that buyers can get supplies very cheap - it's the fact that supplies suddenly became a lot more expensive for players as we can no longer use the 80% discount that came with the kit. With the current prices for supplies, every free player who has less than 1000 supplies now will eventually run out and there will be no way for them to get their supply stocks back up. The only escape will be the limited choice of PRO battles, and that is only for high ranks. Low ranks are doomed to suffer.

In term of limiting supplies abuse, this was not the solution/option that people were hoping for :huh:.

 

We don't know the cost of it in the shop. But this is how i see the current turn of event:

* now: you buy 60,00 crystals (+ a bonus of 45,000 with cash (~30€), with this amount of crystal 105,000 you buy a supplies kit of 1500 supplies each.

* tomorrow: you buy with cash (lets says ~30€) a supplies kit of 1500 supplies each, you just skip a step.

 

What's the difference? first case everybody can actually have access to low price (-80%). Second case only a couple of people can actually buy those low price kit.

So yes at the end less supplies in the system but now power has shift to a handful of people by drying the other player of there supplies.

The handful of people will rule standard mode battle and collect basket of crystals from the battle fond. Therefore less crystal for other that will then not be able to upgrade equipment with MU (as those have drastically increased too).

 

What's the same?

Buyer has bought crystal for supplies before, and they will carry on (only one process step removed). Nothing changes, they will have less competition.

Edited September 21, 2016 by Viking4s

[Triath 130]

Thanks for the opportunity to stack up on supplies before they go Premium. 

Just bought 3000 drugs, I intend to use them for the rest of my TO career :) 

 

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

It's not the fact that buyers can get supplies very cheap - it's the fact that supplies suddenly became a lot more expensive for players as we can no longer use the 80% discount that came with the kit. With the current prices for supplies, every free player who has less than 1000 supplies now will eventually run out and there will be no way for them to get their supply stocks back up. The only escape will be the limited choice of PRO battles, and that is only for high ranks. Low ranks are doomed to suffer.

Granted. I was making a point about 'advantage' being only accessible from the shop.

 

I have no problem with players buying their way to the top if f2p players can get the same opportunities for the same crystal prices. Whether it is harder for players to replenish their supply stocks is irrelevant to tanki. 

[fordmustang12345 3,910]

honestly . I don't kind the whole adding kits to the Shop thing. but making all drug kits except 100 drug kit only available in shop is just taking it to far . even as me being a buyer I think it's ridiculous

[CooperO 7,956]

The only escape will be the limited choice of PRO battles, and that is only for high ranks. Low ranks are doomed to suffer.

Or they can finish one easy mission (not always drugs needed) each day to collect the weekly bonus to stock up on drugs and crystals. It will take a very long time to get a sufficient amount, but it's something at least. Players playing less isn't really something to be happy about though.

[Adel 567]

I guess no more skipping super drugs missions

Edited September 21, 2016 by Adel

[a7x_Pedro48 13,999]

Bad times are coming for drugers but I am ready!  Little short for repair kit, but I guess I can handle  :rolleyes: .

 

 

 

I did the same thing. Since Tanki decided to spit (again) on us, the normal players, I decided to buy 3x1500 drugs kit. So I will have enough drugs to last until february or march 2017. And after that, I don't know what I will do. Anyway, developpers can't show respect to us, even tho we are the majority in the game. They do everything for what, maybe 15 or 20% of the players (the buyers), I don't have an exact idea of the numbers. But yeah, they keep spitting to our faces. I guess that Respect in russia is a foreign concept.

 

[lukey0 27,543]

:lol: Best joke yet Tanki, removing supply kits for non-buyers. Been listening to Brubook too much?

 

Prepare for your game to die, no ones wants to buy them at 50% when they used to at 80%... You literally just killed the 1 thing left in the game.

 

Alterations? Sounds bad anyway. Improves 1 feature while nerfing another, for what 50K / 100K / 500K?? Another waste of crystals...

[Viking4s 10,791]

honestly . I don't kind the whole adding kits to the Shop thing. but making all drug kits except 100 drug kit only available in shop is just taking it to far . even as me being a buyer I think it's ridiculous

Don't worry they can go even further, soon kit above 100,000crys only available from the shop. We are halfway there. So many idea that need to be seized.

[Thekillerpenguin 1,731]

I don't think the shifting of 1000 supply kits to the Shop will go over well. I don't drug very much (I get more than I need from daily missions) and don't buy supplies, but from my experience in high rank battles, supply use is rampant, and you'll need to have a good stock to stay competitive in battle. Players fighting in battles without Smart Cooldowns need even more supplies than your average player. I can imagine that heavy druggers buy 1000 supply kits pretty often- those who don't already fund their habit by buying crystals will probably have more issues keeping up. We'll have to wait and see to decide if the extra 20% discount buyers will receive will affect the status quo too much.

 

Anyway, I'm interested in seeing what the new Alterations will be like. My understanding is that the available Alterations will depend on what modification your turret is. If they're only going to be releasing one of them for now, it seems like the new ones will only be available for 1 modification. Maybe a bit unfair for players at other ranks, but the developers seem to be just testing the waters for now.

[Bydo 20,129]

ok now the only other issue is .. the new prices when buying ,

 

due to the fact anytime tanki changes / updates things now the prices are over the top outrageous and it might not be worth buying tomorrow

 

, then putting off for today cheaper rates, with only crystals being used.. anyone else feel this way ??

[AliceTreatPU 92]

Not worthy to buy AS YOU ALWAYS BECOME SECOND RATE. Unless you're Russian.

[BLASTER872 1,892]

I don't get my drugs with supply kits thank god

[ArcadeMode_ON 155]

Not worthy to buy AS YOU ALWAYS BECOME SECOND RATE. Unless you're Russian.

Да.

[AverageDavelaar 89]

Yes,keep doing this and you will lose alot of players...

FIX THE DAMN LAG!

[fordmustang12345 3,910]

I don't think the shifting of 1000 supply kits to the Shop will go over well. I don't drug very much (I get more than I need from daily missions) and don't buy supplies, but from my experience in high rank battles, supply use is rampant, and you'll need to have a good stock to stay competitive in battle. Players fighting in battles without Smart Cooldowns need even more supplies than your average player. I can imagine that heavy druggers buy 1000 supply kits pretty often- those who don't already fund their habit by buying crystals will probably have more issues keeping up. We'll have to wait and see to decide if the extra 20% discount buyers will receive will affect the status quo too much.

 

 

hey that's a point. less drugging at higher ranks

[basenji7 1,199]

I was (and am still) against this update (the supply kit part).

 

The price of the supply kits in the Shop will affect a lot though, I think we'll have to just wait and see. If the discount is similar to the 100 supply kit then it'll actually reduce drugging which isn't bad. But if buyers have a bigger discount it's not gonna be good. 

[Flw 1,625]

Nice update .. I was sick with all this normal battles where everyone was drugging without limits .. Alteracions sounds great also, is like 2 different styles in one turret ^_^