Alterations, Kits and Supplies Kits!

[killing-task 4]

It is for Firebird M3 tho

 

 

I have checked an alt account who has fire m1 and it does not have any alteration active ,the same is true with m1 rail ,it has no alteration you can activate .For now it seems the fire m2 and fire m3 has the same type of alteration .

[I.ZEUS.I 865]

Yes, when you buy it, it stays in your garage forever, and you can switch it on and off.

 

Caution!! This Alternation does NOT increase your average damage.

There is no change to the average damage, although the different % for min and max might make you think that.

Take my Rail M2 for an example:

 

Currently:

min 88.8 / max 136.3

current average = 112,550

 

now lets modify the parameters:

min 88.8 +23% = 109.224  / max 136.3 -15% = 115,885

New Average = 112,539 (Same!!!)

Thanks guys,

i think for alternations will wait for awhile to choose the turret that i will invest upon,

 

[Lankero 595]

:lol:

 

You can buy a 1 500 drug kit for 6-7euros now. :lol: 

[DageLV 940]

Im ashamed us free players cannot rent an alteration...it is $1USD for 2 days..or 100k crystals..you might wanna make the rent for 50k crys instead of making us pay for it..sad

its not expensive and noone says you have to rent anything.

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

It is not useless, but the first thing I thought when I saw it was:

"oh the min value increase more them max.. so the average is going up! And all I have to sacrifice is a little max damage, that I anyways get only rarely" - and this is not the case.

 

The modification is usefull as you can assure the number of hits for hulls.

Past:

• Rail M4 vs Vikings M4: you _usually_ 2shot a Viking M4.. but there was a small chance that he survivded the second shot (you had two low-damage shots - very unlikely, but possible)
• Rail M4 vs Hornet M3+:

  If your shot dealt "little above average damage" you had a pretty good chance to 1shot this hull

With Alternation:

• Rail M4 vs VViking M4: You 2shot him for sure, as there are no low-damage shots any more
• Rail M4 vs Hornet M3+:

  As there is no "little above average damage" shot any more, you will most likely have to 2shot him.

 

As you see more vikings then Hornets in High tier battles, it may make sense there. Then you can count on something

I mostly spam it with DP outside XP battles, will that change anything? :ph34r:

[DageLV 940]

In other words, the rail alteration is useless? I have M4 rail, and thus still deciding whether is this alteration is worth it...

No its not.

 

It's a DOWNDATE, not an Update. It's the opposite of an update. It has made it worse instead of actually improving things.

Downdate?? :D And what did it made worse?

 

I believe that this is not corect, i have fire m2 and i have the same type of alteration as someone who has fire m3 .In my opinion there is going to be 4 types of alterations for each turret at every M modification(m0,m1,m2,m3) with the same specifications

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I have checked an alt account who has fire m1 and it does not have any alteration active ,the same is true with m1 rail ,it has no alteration you can activate .For now it seems the fire m2 and fire m3 has the same type of alteration .

Read previous posts. Answered 10+ times.

 

:lol:

You can buy a 1 500 drug kit for 6-7euros now. :lol:

Thats for russians. But for europe users its 14 euros.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

I mostly spam it with DP outside XP battles, will that change anything? :ph34r:

It's an assured kill on light hulls without protection, and it can maim most other hulls. I know that.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

I mostly spam it with DP outside XP battles, will that change anything? :ph34r:

If I reming my maths class correctly -> yes, as you might experience, the chance that an unprtected Viking M4 susrives your DP shot is already small.

 

Today you see a certain chance, that an full M4 Viking survives your DP shot.. while in future he will die for sure.

It makes no difference to the Hornets and Wasps..

 

If you play on large maps mainly as a sniper, where you have time to finish off or seriously damage incoming Vikings then it makes no difference. On those maps most players have Railprotection too, so you can not 1shot (+DP) him anyways.

If you play midrange battles where they come close, you have to dodge and wait for your reload.. then it is important to be assure, that your shot will kill him. Also railprotection is less common on that maps, so that you can truely make use of 1shotting him; while saving your own bacon with a single shot.

Edited September 22, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[Bydo 20,134]

ok I just tried my ricochet out with this new alteration and boy its supper powerful .. even with drugs and upgraded... i can shoot almost the full polygon map across .. tanki you need to reduce the drug strength , its way too strong now ,then before .. i can kill with less shoots now..

[destroyer93_lucky 59]

All I ask is that you give this update some time to see how it works out. I've explained the motivations behind it, and as you can see, the goal is a valid one. Let's see whether this plays out as the devs intended.

cedric cmon man we all know how this will work out the buyers will beat the crap out of us and if u really wanna decrease supply usage why dont u remove it(1500 drug kit) from the shop too but no no no u wanna give the buyers advantage bcoz they pay u. i understand u guys need money to keep going but dont push the non buyers under the bus for it.

charging money for xt special paint extra xp and fund completely understandable but when u give them a clear advantage u cant say u guys r playing it fair .

[Killieman 36]

Hey all,

 

Listen, I know you're upset, and you've brought up some very valid points. More importantly, there's a civil and smart discussion going on. All I'm asking is that you give this update some time.

 

The idea behind it is to slow down the overall usage of supplies. At Gissmo level, players don't have anything on which to spend their crystals, and this leads to mass purchase and consumption of supplies.

 

With this update, this mass purchase should slow down. As the super-users start running out of supplies, they will be forced to use them more intelligently rather than spamming the 1-5 keys. That's the idea behind this move. It'll take some time before we start seeing these results, but I believe that's where we'll get to. Additionally, there are other plans being set in motion to regulate the hyper-use of supplies.

but can you tell the logic of making kits with more than 100 suplies only avaideble for buyers

the only reason i can think of is money

but if there others pls tell me

[Killieman 36]

if you realy want to go this update ago we have to stop buying crystals like some sort of boycot, than they will lissen to people

[Desty 275]

Alteration for M4 shaft made it worser. Energy loading time is extremely slow. Yeh, it might be stronger shot in sniping mode, but you have to wait twice as much to get full energy ...I do not recommend it.

 

http://screencast.com/t/Hn2ti53p8R

Edited September 22, 2016 by Desty

[Flw 1,625]

Why should somebody buy or fight for a xt item when:

- no prices sale

- no micros sale

- no alteracions

 

I have to wait months for an M4, I have to pay double for a XT item, i don't have alteracions.

I'm not saying that a XT need to bring advantages but now it looks like you have disadvantages.

I'm just a XT user and I'm disappointed !

Edited September 22, 2016 by Flw

[cube3e 1,973]

What game should we move to?

[ArcadeMode_ON 155]

Alteration for M4 shaft made it worser. Energy loading time is extremely slow. Yeh, it might be stronger shot in sniping mode, but you have to wait twice as much to get full energy ...I do not recommend it.

 

http://screencast.com/t/Hn2ti53p8R

I would rather have increased damage with arcade shots at the expense of a weakened scope shot.

[O.S.A.N 714]

In other words, the rail alteration is useless? I have M4 rail, and thus still deciding whether is this alteration is worth it...

no the alteration is useless i'de better rely on luck than relying on this crapy alteration thing <_<

[falcosenna1 8,320]

Mr. Debono

 

 

 

 Your way of thinking is wrong , once a drugger always a drugger.. in other means .. a buyer they will continue to buy crystals and drugs .. no win there its conman sense to understand .. its like someone who continues to smoke and is told his life is on the line , most chain smokers wont stop .. they will continue until its too late ..

 

there is no way around players who drug .. we talked about this for sometime in the idea/ suggestion section about it... to me i would like to see the strength of the drugs lowered and the timer length extended to make the use of them shorter but the   waiting time longer to load the next drugs ..also  , for the drop ones  also lower the level and extend the timer so it takes longer to wait to load another drug..this would slow the use down and also tanki cut back on giving drugs and increase the crystals , most players would rather have crystals to buy items / hulls and turrets and things ,instead of drugs...

 

just idea to float around ...i have said this before ..seeing I'am a drugger and a buyer as you are aware of this...

 

It's the developers that think this way. Cedric is the bridge between us and the developing team. He explains the developers' ideas, their way of thinking and reasoning. 

[O.S.A.N 714]

Yes

its kinda worth it for the smoky

[ArcadeMode_ON 155]

In a PRO battle, if MUs are OFF, will the alteration be OFF as well?

[O.S.A.N 714]

hello guys can someone please explain this to me:

-what does alternation do to your turrets, for e.g rail gun.

-we can rent it for 2 day for 1 $ its fine, but if we buy it for 100,000crys,will it stay in our garage forever?

 

i advise u to not buy it simply makes u, not relying on luck anymore in other means u  won't be able to one shot a hornet m3 sometimes or even an m2 so...

[O.S.A.N 714]

it is permanent.

But you dont know how they change the parameters of you alternation later on, as those alternations lead to balance issues. They are now in the game and will be watched.. and most likely changed and tweaked afterwards.

 

In example the Vulcan change is rediculous powerfull.. you acn not outmanouver Vulcans any more, while they can deliver more damage on the battlefield (the can sway from one targets to the other faster). They just have to play on usefull maps, where theire sacrificed shooting angle makes no change.

good point

[O.S.A.N 714]

In a PRO battle, if MUs are OFF, will the alteration be OFF as well?

Nope.

[Cyborg 3,189]

I think keeping the 1500 supply kit available for both.. Crystals and Money would solve the problem. It will just be that buyers get it for like 15k cheaper if bought with real money.. but at least non buyers will not face any changes to their regimen of supply usage.

[falcosenna1 8,320]

I think keeping the 1500 supply kit available for both.. Crystals and Money would solve the problem. It will just be that buyers get it for like 15k cheaper if bought with real money.. but at least non buyers will not face any changes to their regimen of supply usage.

Sounds like a great deal to me.

Edited September 22, 2016 by falcosenna1