Episode 108 of the V-LOG is here

[xXx.RazoR.xXx 543]

OK, I keep hearing about it, but I have no idea what it means. Help a newer layer out. What the dickens in Tank X? Or TX? Or whatever? I know TO is Tanki Online, this game.

I'm sorry,I don't quite understand your question,if it was for me :)

[zainslimshady 474]

I have been reading the whole discussion that has been posted above(related to this update and removal of 1000 supply kit etc)

 

And conclusion is that they just want more money. I dont mind if you want it but atleast be honest. I mean why to cover up your cheap tactics to earn money from us and that to for the same product. Now we have to buy alterations. Soon there will be different levels of alteration. I mean we already paid for M3. This rebalance you guys are basically degrading our M3's And asking us to invest some more crystals to buy alterate. Wow

 

Just come out and say. We want more money. Simple as that. Instead of hiding your (intentions, future plan or whatever you want to call it) behind the term rebalance, to control drugging, better game dynamics. Please keep those reasons to yourself. Been here since the first rebalance which you guys are calling drastic(was actually much better)

Edited October 2, 2016 by zainslimshady

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In their statistics Generalissimo Players are are burden for them..

 

1. So many players are in this category , they have nothing to do buying new hulls, turrets , paints because they maximum numbers players are already done that previously , they basically concentrate on micro upgrading & buying supply.

   

  that's why they cancel individual parameter upgrading (that was cheap & don't have to upgrade unwanted one) & make micro upgrading so much costly

 

  Maximum numbers of supply buyers is generalissimos , but due to high reword  in battle & daily mission they barely need to buy it with real money

 

 

2. Non generalissimos were (basically new player) have some less knowledge whats happen in TO  & they less follow forum ,  they have hurry to rank up & they are actual buyers . if you follow last 2 re balance . they just doing opposite they have done in previous re balance . they make isida op first then Nerf it . and so many as you can see

 

here is tricks  ......

you cant stuck with your favorite one . after re balance you have shift to better one & you have to buy ......

 

My question is they they do 3-4 re balance....

                      they have daily statistics....

                      they know what is op now

                      they know why thats op

this is not the end of re balance they will do it year by year

 

They will do the same things with TANKI X also. and its pre planned .

 

Nothing will happen & nothing to say about you decision....

 

I just say one thing to Game developers & marketing department . There  are so many way to income in TO except doing this type of lower graded strategy .

 

All buyer cant save your game if they not have any non buyer player to kill in arena.....

As example .....if there are maximum (90%) hackers play a game they got bored & leave that game ..

 

If we dose-not exist you have to be jobless also.

[galziv01 69]

I have a suggestion to TO regarding the isida issue:

 

You are decreasing the healing and damage of isida because of the drugging which makes it very powerful.

You are almost abolishing the self healing. So this makes isida the weakest close range weapon in the game (without drugging).

 

I think to compensate that you should INCREASE the range of isida to 20 for M0 and 30 for M3. This will make isida strong enough to compete in DM battles, but keep your general intentions that drugs will not be a game changer for isida.

 

Another suggestion is to keep the new range, but make isida beam curve behind corners, but this should be done with some programming.

Edited October 2, 2016 by galziv01

[dan146_tanker 770]

Is your legal name on the company's legal papers and any other Government document .. I can say not  cause mine is not also on it ..

the only way yours can be is if you signed those papers .. crystals are not money .. if you bought them with real cash then you can look at it that way but really its not .. all you did and including myself is put money into a game and where it goes only management knows .. if we all left and stopped buying well its easy others would join in our place and once no one would continue to play ..then they can get a bank loan or close this game down they have the control .. also the money that came from this game after paying off bills and things what is left after a certain length of time would go back into the main owners of the game and not the players hands unless we ( you ) filed a lawsuit at the company.. which I can tell you , the grounds to do one is lengthy and costly ..and would not be worth wasting time or lawyers fees for one..

we can only speculate on what there plans are , they have not given in full detail all of it only what they want us to know at this time .. in time yes we will see more of it .. and in some ways it do's look like tanki-X but not all of it ..

Nope my name ain't on it, or at least I don't think so... But we do make Tanki what it is. We are the players, we are the buyers, we are the customers. In a business, that's all there is too it. If we stop buying who will pay them their salary? It doesn't matter about legal names and that kind of stuff. We choose to play we choose to buy. If we choose to stop buying Tanki is in trouble. Those are the facts.

[J.G.S.D.F 73]

I have been reading the whole discussion that has been posted above(related to this update and removal of 1000 supply kit etc)

 

And conclusion is that they just want more money. I dont mind if you want it but atleast be honest. I mean why to cover up your cheap tactics to earn money from us and that to for the same product. Now we have to buy alterations. Soon there will be different levels of alteration. I mean we already paid for M3. This rebalance you guys are basically degrading our M3's And asking us to invest some more crystals to buy alterate. Wow

 

Just come out and say. We want more money. Simple as that. Instead of hiding your (intentions, future plan or whatever you want to call it) behind the term rebalance, to control drugging, better game dynamics. Please keep those reasons to yourself. Been here since the first rebalance which you guys are calling drastic(was actually much better)

You are right. We don't like it because Tanki is LYING to their customers. What would you do if a shop lies and cheats?  We will never go back. I suggest we consider to boycott this game.

[Bydo 20,121]

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ok just for the record we also have lower accounts .. between my son and myself we now have over 10 accounts in total so we fully understand how others feel.. I only have 3 gizmo accounts the rest are lower ranks from starting rank to below marshal ...same with many other gizmo's ..

[swede1 1,726]

To be generalissimo was a aim for all tankers but in future everything will unlock at marshal. Crap!! Crap!! Crap!!

One last hurrah for the remaining Gissimo Buyers to massacre a new group of under-equipped players forcing them to buy, lose, or leave!  

[Bydo 20,121]

Nope my name ain't on it, or at least I don't think so... But we do make Tanki what it is. We are the players, we are the buyers, we are the customers. In a business, that's all there is too it. If we stop buying who will pay them their salary? It doesn't matter about legal names and that kind of stuff. We choose to play we choose to buy. If we choose to stop buying Tanki is in trouble. Those are the facts.

last time i checked my name was not on any company papers other then as a player .. sure we pay for things but like a admin explained before .. you go into a store you buy a item you use it for say about a 1 year then go to return it for full refund do you think that store will give it to you.. i guarantee not due do the wear and tear of the item also the style is out dated .. so in other words once you spend your money into a game or other thing ,no one owes you anything.. just like buying food at the grocery store , so now you also own that.. if you left that store do you think it would close .. maybe in time.. but others ( people ) will just replace you for shopping there .. they would not loose out nor will tanki..

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ok just for the record we also have lower accounts .. between my son and myself we now have over 10 accounts in total so we fully understand how others feel.. I only have 3 gizmo accounts the rest are lower ranks from starting rank to below marshal ...same with many other gizmo's ..

 

as i say , you are old player . you know everything about tanki online , you barely pay if thats not in critical situation like huge sale ,

but i dont think you pay weekly to spend on supply or micro upgrading in lower rank account.

 

they are forcing players to do so

[I.H.U.R.R.I.C.A.N.E 120]

I have gone through every one of the new parameters and come to the conclusion that things will very unbalanced as far as turrets are concerned, isada, hammer, and railgun will be nerfed and fire, rico, twins will be to good. With hulls making all hulls the same protection within there wight class will take a lot of diversity out of the game, because amour was there main difference. Plus each one already has its own ups and downs its just some are easier and more practical to use like viking is way more popular than dictator or hunter because its low, stable, and not such a big target like dictator and not so boring to use like hunter. Finally i'm just sick and tired of tanki wanting money and making updates that i don't like. If they come out with this i don't care i have no energy left to bother about it i'll just leave. 

[dan146_tanker 770]

I have gone through every one of the new parameters and come to the conclusion that things will very unbalanced as far as turrets are concerned, isada, hammer, and railgun will be nerfed and fire, rico, twins will be to good. With hulls making all hulls the same protection within there wight class will take a lot of diversity out of the game, because amour was there main difference. Plus each one already has its own ups and downs its just some are easier and more practical to use like viking is way more popular than dictator or hunter because its low, stable, and not such a big target like dictator and not so boring to use like hunter. Finally i'm just sick and tired of tanki wanting money and making updates that i don't like. If they come out with this i don't care i have no energy left to bother about it i'll just leave. 

Ding, ding, ding. This is the smartest person I have seen in the entire forum so far. Read what he says above. And guess what else, I know I'm gonna get a lot of hate from this comment, but I also know when the update hits the people giving me the hate ironically will hate the update. Then super flooders will take over the chat. If I leave its not gonna because of the update, but the people doing nothing and letting update happen..... People like @I.H.U.R.R.I.C.A.N.E understands the problems with the update. And some of you... PEOPLE I'm on Your side!! I'm not in favour of Tanki turning itself into a buy to win. Is it really that difficult to see I'm on your side? Sometimes, I think that I should just go over to WOT....

[LittleWillie 3,199]

I'm sorry,I don't quite understand your question,if it was for me :)

You talk about something called "TX". What is TX? I cannot make the question simpler.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

You talk about something called "TX". What is TX? I cannot make the question simpler.

http://tankix.com/en/

 

 

 

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

So why make them so cheap for buyers?

I think of supplies should be paid via the shop the price can not be the crystaleqivalent to a Garage price.

I have the assumption, that generalissimo buyers in the past played the game and earned crystals and if they run out of supplies they just topped up their crystals by money to afford a supply Kit... so the price in the shop may onlyreflect that topup.. or else the supplies would appear more expensive to buyers.

 

But acting according to this assumption does as well not support the target of lowering the drugs equally over all players. It leaves the benefit on the buyers hands. But this was the business model over the years anyways

Edited October 2, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

I think of supplies should be paid via the shop the price can not be the crystaleqivalent to a Garage price.

You didn't say why.

[Bydo 20,121]

as i say , you are old player . you know everything about tanki online , you barely pay if thats not in critical situation like huge sale ,

but i dont think you pay weekly to spend on supply or micro upgrading in lower rank account.

 

they are forcing players to do so

as a parent who does spend $$ in this game I can spend about any where from about $10.00 to over $200.00 per 3 accounts / and up .. about every two weeks or less .. it really depends on if there is a sale or not.. also I only do missions now instead of battling like 8 to 14 hours per day... i use drugs every battle I go in .. at gizmo ranks we have been collecting and buying for a long time...for the lower ranks i"m stocking them up due to I know once I reach a certain level I'm sort of forced to use them .. and yes this is my choice / but if I want good crystal amounts then i have no choice .. so I do understand where u and others come from..

 

for me spending $$ in game you have to understand I only have one full time income paying my bills .. raising a family of five with one in collage that we are helping / to pay for her rent and school .. plus we run a part time business at Christmas that only brings in a small amount of $$ .. nothing I can boast about .. so yea I understand about how tight it is with money ..

 

also no one is forcing anyone to pay for things its fully your choices to do it.. you can still play this game with out money ..sure its not easy but you can do it ..

Edited October 2, 2016 by frozen_heart

[austen_pierce 1,948]

I am hearing that Viking and Hunter will switch parameters. Does this mean Viking will now drift on corners the way Hunter and Hornet do now?

 

If so, I am OUT. If I had wanted Hunter M4, I would have bought and MUd it. I want my strong stable M4 Viking to continue to corner like it is on rails. Tweaks to HP and speed I can deal with, but please don't make this tank something completely other than what I have spent two years grinding and crafting.

[DESTROYER_13 1,019]

I am hearing that Viking and Hunter will switch parameters. Does this mean Viking will now drift on corners the way Hunter and Hornet do now?

 

If so, I am OUT. If I had wanted Hunter M4, I would have bought and MUd it. I want my strong stable M4 Viking to continue to corner like it is on rails. Tweaks to HP and speed I can deal with, but please don't make this tank something completely other than what I have spent two years grinding and crafting.

I am not certain about the factors which decide the drifting, but you can check it out, here.

 

Worse     Better

 

Protection, Price, Lateral acceleration, Turning acceleration, Weight, Acceleration.

 

Top speed, Turning speed, Anti-inertial turning acceleration, Reverse acceleration.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

http://tankix.com/en/

 

 

 

thank you :)

[TopGunner626 3]

The thing is, if only Marshall rank is going to be able to get m3s then it won't be fair to lower ranks because they might not have m3s already. Because I'm saving for a kit and it is the Refrigerator kit. Will that still be available for my rank at Brigadier? Or will it be only available for Marshall rank?

[nelsonny 26]

all i have is a smoky/viking combo..been using it exclusively and have spent time and some building it to where it is. now i see a lot of RED in the rebalance charts.. why?

 

vulcan and twins should be the ones decreased as they are too OP. leave the smoky alone, in fact, put some more power to it on regular shots.

 

im sure you gathered stats to justify the rebalancing... any chance we can get some explanations why one tank's parameters decreased while another one increased?

[swede1 1,726]

It's not a 

 

RE-BALANCE, its a

 

 

REVENUE RE-STRUCTURE

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as a parent who does spend $$ in this game I can spend about any where from about $10.00 to over $200.00 per 3 accounts / and up .. about every two weeks or less .. it really depends on if there is a sale or not.. also I only do missions now instead of battling like 8 to 14 hours per day... i use drugs every battle I go in .. at gizmo ranks we have been collecting and buying for a long time...for the lower ranks i"m stocking them up due to I know once I reach a certain level I'm sort of forced to use them .. and yes this is my choice / but if I want good crystal amounts then i have no choice .. so I do understand where u and others come from..

 

for me spending $$ in game you have to understand I only have one full time income paying my bills .. raising a family of five with one in collage that we are helping / to pay for her rent and school .. plus we run a part time business at Christmas that only brings in a small amount of $$ .. nothing I can boast about .. so yea I understand about how tight it is with money ..

 

also no one is forcing anyone to pay for things its fully your choices to do it.. you can still play this game with out money ..sure its not easy but you can do it ..

I am also buyer . i have 3 account . i spent so many dollar already in three account . 

But now i will not spend a penny in this game .

 

image it my way....!

 

suppose i am a student and i am studying science i have some  goal , i need 3 years to graduation .

but my parents want that i should study commerce so they force me & i am bound to join commerce and i spoil my 1 year

after 1 year i got a girl friend & she study in arts collage , so leave commerce & join arts again i spoil 1 year

 

 

so what you will say to me?

what my parents say to me?

what all people say to ?

 

am i mad?

 

NO I AM NOT MAD

 

so i dont want repeat this situation again & again with TANKI ONLINE also

i know i am best with smoky , because i realized in 3 years how to deal with this

but now i have to learn play with freezer

next year will be another re balance , then i have to learn deal with vulcan

then & then & then......

 

No parents , No students , No gamer , No Rich , No poor can Handle with this type of changes...

sorry flocks i am not with you.....

Edited October 3, 2016 by GOLD_BOX_TAKEN_BY

[theFiringHand 21,351]

Hey all,

 

I've been silent over the past few pages for a reason. Many of your arguments —while valid— can only be confirmed or refuted once the changes are actually in the game, so it's pointless for me to get into such conversations and cause people undue frustration.

 

Additionally, while I have answered a number of questions, for some of your other ones I need to get feedback from the devs.

 

On a final note, I'm making note of all your comments, both positive and critical, and passing on the information to the devs. Bear in mind that I do not make any decisions when it comes to what gets implemented in the game and what stays out. My only role here is to be a bridge between you and the devs. I bring your arguments to them, and their arguments to you.