New balance changes and other features

[Ahmedjutt_tanki 0]

Something is wrong with shaft.Sometimes no bullet comes out in sniping mode.What happens to its penetrating power???

[dan146_tanker 770]

Something is wrong with shaft.Sometimes no bullet comes out in sniping mode.What happens to its penetrating power???

 

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=339015

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Something is wrong with shaft.Sometimes no bullet comes out in sniping mode.What happens to its penetrating power???

This is a common glitch reported by many shaft players that started after the update.  It is called "ghost bullet" when your shots just don't register and disappear.  This is very frustrating and unfair to shaft players, when you are about to make a game-saving shot, but it doesn't register and no orange lines appear.  There are many threads about this problem. I have reported it along with other players, and some people said it is being passed on to the developers.  

 

Penetrating power was nerfed, not that I mind that much.

[asdasemm 925]

ORIGINAL TOPIC: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=339417

I have an idea...

We can now see the damage caused to enemy tank by us, what about the damage caused to our tank?

My suggestion is that we can see the damage in number dealed by the enemy on us

i know that the hit points can give rounded estimation but this will give a more appropriate..

[austen_pierce 1,948]

Rail. I feel the worst for users of Railgun.

 

How hard is it to master this turret on the hull of your choosing? Pretty darn hard. Now the characteristics of both the gun and hulls have changes.

 

Rails shots are missing all over maps right now as players struggle to adapt to the changes. That's just harsh. Who knows how long it will take Railers to completely relearn their rig...

[BlueDragon_tamki 3,204]

Hi.

 

I propose to introduce alternations, that ensure that in the XP/BP gamemode all tanks are 2shot.

 

 

 

Problem today:

M2 kills M2 -> 3shot most of the time

M2 kills M3 -> 3 shot almost always

M3 kills M2 -> almost always only 2shot

 

This is not fair.

This is not predictable.

This is simply crap

 

This took out all the fun (remember, fun is why we play - and might pay - for games)

 

 

I propose to introduce that alternation that changes that.

Please also think of lined up shots; an M3 tank should die by 2 lined up M2 shots.

 

 

 

bye and thanks for evaluating that.

I hope for better times in the meanwhile -.-

m3 rail can kill my hornet m2 one shot

[dan146_tanker 770]

do u really think this update was balancing ?lol

This update was all about money nothing else.

To sell new product...it seems u really hate railgunners lol

railgun users always hide . Tanki devs said back in days railgun ad perfect weapon when people like you crying as OP weapon .Skilled Players made it look like OP.

Yep, I am a railgunner myself and I just hate other railgunners. And not because now XP/BP is more fun, faster reloading more skill. Pls explain how you can ''make'' your opponents weapons look OP.

Edited October 24, 2016 by dan146_tanker

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

m3 rail can kill my hornet m2 one shot

Not anymore.  That's not really happening anymore after update.

[BlueDragon_tamki 3,204]

Not anymore. That's not really happening anymore after update.

dude that IS a part of the update! -_-

I always get killed one shot by rail m3

Only 2 shots if I had double armor on

Edited October 24, 2016 by BlueDragon_tamki

[dan146_tanker 770]

Rail. I feel the worst for users of Railgun.

 

How hard is it to master this turret on the hull of your choosing? Pretty darn hard. Now the characteristics of both the gun and hulls have changes.

 

Rails shots are missing all over maps right now as players struggle to adapt to the changes. That's just harsh. Who knows how long it will take Railers to completely relearn their rig...

Personally XP became easier for me since the update. Railgun has less damage but more shots. Seems fair. The long reloading would just be boring if it came back ;)

[T-34-3m 360]

Rail. I feel the worst for users of Railgun.

 

How hard is it to master this turret on the hull of your choosing? Pretty darn hard. Now the characteristics of both the gun and hulls have changes.

 

Rails shots are missing all over maps right now as players struggle to adapt to the changes. That's just harsh. Who knows how long it will take Railers to completely relearn their rig...

Not if you have a solid, sturdy platform upon which to fire. And I only see an increase in reload speed as an advantage.

All hail T-R!

[POWERFULLSOUL 78]

Yep, I am a railgunner myself and I just hate other railgunners. And not because now XP/BP is more fun, faster reloading more skill. Pls explain how you can ''make'' your opponents weapons look OP.

more skill?then smoky must be most skilled weapon ... Lol u are funny.What i meant was players learned to use too good that other players feel like railgun is OP . Just like you does :P Edited October 24, 2016 by POWERFULLSOUL

[dan146_tanker 770]

more skill? Lol u are funny.What i meant was players learned to use too good that other players feel like railgun is OP . Just like you does :P

Hiding is not a skill. Camping isn't either now. Since not every shot counts people won't resort to camping and making you waste your shots. Instead its pure ''skill''. Players saw railgunners hiding all over the place. But now its better faster reloading but also you can't get one shot kills so its fair. Maybe not for you, but from my point of view the new rail is better than the old. :)

[LittleWillie 3,199]

Im a little late with the reply, but first of all: the 92% was about DR format only.

 

And regarding the rest: What are you trying to say??? I really tried to break down your comment but it gets me nowhere... I'm assuming your first sentence summarized your comment?

Thank you. I did not realize the 92% figure referred to DR only.

 

To answer your question... The post I replied to made the flawed claim that now Rail users can just blaze away and not care if they miss shots, because the firing rate is so very high misses do not matter.  My repose pointed out Smoky has an even faster firing rate, and I damn sure know I cannot afford to miss shots.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

This update stucked isida. Just 10 % self healing. It is use less showpiece. We can't attack with it now. Just heal team mates and have fun. Haha! These stupid developers should be

 

 

Like if you are agree, and you are a fan of isida.

I lie, because I am a fan of Cary Grant and the movie "My Girl Friday".  :)

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

dude that IS a part of the update! -_-

I always get killed one shot by rail m3

Only 2 shots if I had double armor on

That's not true.  Before, a higher modification rail was always able to one-shot a lower modification hornet.

 

But now, rail m2 doesn't one-shot hornet m1. They reduced railgun's damage.  If you look at the wiki, m4 rail does a max damage of 1600 and a min of 800.  M2 hornet has 1285 hp, so even assuming your opponent's railgun is fully upgraded to m4, there's still a less than 50% chance that you will be one-shotted.

[zainslimshady 474]

It's not easy to expand your garage when you are a non-buyer.

 

Many isida users did not buy isida because it was OP, they bought it because they liked its playstyle.

 

And it's currently not balanced with the other weapons, it's not even close...

Easier said than done.

IF one has Isida as only M3, it is now harder to "expand our garage". Believe me I'm trying.

 

And with new rules for M3 unlock we need to wait longer, or buy a kit. Closer to Guardian Kit now...

I can understand that. Even i am not a buyer though at one point of time i did purchased around 100k crystals. But it was still not enough to get all M3 or M4. And isida is still dominating it is just that you guys have been using isida right from the begining and you got used to that isida which was before rebalance. So you guys just need to switch playing styles.

 

And yeah devs need to do something about the fund in normal battles. As it is really not enough to waste your supplies or time playing those kind of battles.

 

8 vs 8 playing serpuhov. Used 10 first aid 10 da 10 dp. If won earned 600 crystals. Lost 200 crystals. So the fund isnt always that great to compensate of the supplies and time you have put in battle.

Edited October 24, 2016 by zainslimshady

[LittleWillie 3,199]

I can understand that. Even i am not a buyer though at one point of time i did purchased around 100k crystals. But it was still not enough to get all M3 or M4. And isida is still dominating it is just that you guys have been using isida right from the begining and you got used to that isida which was before rebalance. So you guys just need to switch playing styles.

 

And yeah devs need to do something about the fund in normal battles. As it is really not enough to waste your supplies or time playing those kind of battles.

 

8 vs 8 playing serpuhov. Used 10 first aid 10 da 10 dp. If won earned 600 crystals. Lost 200 crystals. So the fund isnt always that great to compensate of the supplies and time you have put in battle.

I agree with the complaint about locking layers into one turret and hull. And after this update, that weakness to the game looms even larger. It plain sucks, and Tanki should address it. But at teh same time Tanki could not leave a glaring design oversight remain forever...

 

Here's TO in a nutshell: Fine game-play, very good maps, and everything else about it is a disaster.

 

The way Exp and Cr are awarded mean all the good maps go away and Poly CO/Noise CF account for half the server. As for Supply burn, that's intended. Supply burn means playing more than your daily missions is unprofitable. So if you want to play for hours each day you will eventually have to pay real money or run out of drugs eventually.

 

Where Tanki failed is in giving me a reason to care if I advance in rank or not. In fact the game sounds less fun the higher your rank. So I split my time among alternate accounts. I aim to complete the daily tasks while earning as little exp as possible. I hate ranking up.  But I play as much as I like, missions give me the drugs I need, and I don't pay a dime. 

 

Isn't that hilarious? What other game encourages a strategy of laying less often? I would be glad to support this company financially. But until they fix the game's economics and development ladder I have no reason to do so.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Yes, LittleWillie you hit it on the spot.  For non-buyers, they have to spend their time wisely and maximize crystal gain/xp gain ratio in order to compete.  The game would be so much more enjoyable and fun if there was more variety in maps, instead of the mindless Poly CPs.

 

I had an idea a while back in that any map size larger than polygon gets 1 extra crystal for every 4 added on to the battle fund.  This would give players more incentive to play in those larger maps..And this would lead to less people complaining about freeze/fire.

[T.O.R_Klau 67]

It's all about the money P:
Devs have to come up with ideas to make players spend their crystals further.

If people had M4 Isida+M4Smoky+M4Rail etc... why would they need anything else? With those weapons anyone could easily be at the top in most battles.

 

Now they nerfed the popular weapons so that everyone switches to Freeze and Shaft, which were previously the weakest weapons :))

And now people have to start spending again: on micro upgrades/protections etc.

 

You understand now?

[Xenomorph_XX121 0]

So they then use their 'other' accounts .... :D

 

 

You will come crawling back in a few days.

 

 

 

They nicely demonstrated how slaves protect their master.

 

Hi, slaves.

[CM11_Brave_Tiger 7]

Posted 24 Oct 2016 - 22:37

Shockspeare, on 20 Oct 2016 - 10:56, said:

So they then use their 'other' accounts .... :D

 

 

pringerfinger, on 20 Oct 2016 - 12:33, said:

You will come crawling back in a few days.
 

 

 

Hi  Slaves !

[Gailili 0]

Posted 24 Oct 2016 - 22:37

Shockspeare, on 20 Oct 2016 - 10:56, said:

So they then use their 'other' accounts .... :D

 

 

pringerfinger, on 20 Oct 2016 - 12:33, said:

You will come crawling back in a few days.
 

 

Hey, you SLAVES

[DocWho6 47]

It's all about the money P:

Devs have to come up with ideas to make players spend their crystals further.

If people had M4 Isida+M4Smoky+M4Rail etc... why would they need anything else? With those weapons anyone could easily be at the top in most battles.

 

Now they nerfed the popular weapons so that everyone switches to Freeze and Shaft, which were previously the weakest weapons :))

And now people have to start spending again: on micro upgrades/protections etc.

 

You understand now?

I don't fall for that garbage.  So myM4 Isida got nerfed.  I'm fully ranked so no place to go.  No reason to buy other weapons other than to win or get crystals and that is not my goal.  Now I just do the daily mission and screw around a bit for fun.  I just won't play as often.

[kayitsiz 621]

It's all about the money P:

Devs have to come up with ideas to make players spend their crystals further.

If people had M4 Isida+M4Smoky+M4Rail etc... why would they need anything else? With those weapons anyone could easily be at the top in most battles.

 

Now they nerfed the popular weapons so that everyone switches to Freeze and Shaft, which were previously the weakest weapons :))

And now people have to start spending again: on micro upgrades/protections etc.

 

You understand now?

What you forget is, many people's equipment also get buff. It is not like everyone has only OP weapons.

Many people have "weak" weapons on their garage, but they just don't use that.

 

Players with wide garages can just change weapons.

Others might use weapons got buffed if they are lucky enough.

 

For example you. :) You have 7 different M3 weapon, excluding XT fire. Have all of them got nerfed?

5 hull, have all of them got nerfed? Do you need to spend one more crystal due this re-balance?

 

 

Look at me, I have Vulcan, Shaft and Twins. All of them got buff(overall) :)

My only hull got kinda nerf, but still works due to my playing style.

 

It is not like everyone got worse with this update.

Edited October 24, 2016 by kayitsiz