Biggest Druggers

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

ah, yes, the shaming of players.

That's what this topic is for. If you want to create another topic about "biggest whiners" go right ahead, but not here.

[Gabe2607 499]

ah, yes, the shaming of players.

Thanks :)

 

That's what this topic is for. If you want to create another topic about "biggest whiners" go right ahead, but not here.

In this case, I think he just wanted to be nice ;)

[Viking4s 10,791]

stupid question for Gabe: does mine is drugs?

[Gabe2607 499]

stupid question for Gabe: does mine is drugs?

Yes

[Gabe2607 499]

Yes and that's why his list means nothing.

 

After seeing his math skills in another topic I must suggest you not to worry much about the logic behind his actions :lol:

Glad you went from "her" to "his". Understanding gender is always an important step for every kid...

[Viking4s 10,791]

Yes

Why would you not use mines?

I can understand your aversion of the garage supplies, but mines are like side kicks. They don't make you stronger, they only change the map set up.

They are part of the game, they bring diversity and a new level to the gameplay and offer opportunity for new tactics.

Edited December 16, 2016 by Viking4s

[Lightning78 285]

An addition for the lower end of the table, currently at 206'790 ;)

http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/BrokenWorld/

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Why would you not use mines?

I can understand your aversion of the garage supplies, but mines are like side kicks. They don't make you stronger, they only change the map set up.

They are part of the game, they bring diversity and a new level to the gameplay and offer opportunity for new tactics.

Yes, but there are many mine spammers who camp with Mammoth and Shafts, with Mines blocking every attack route  :angry:  They should still be considered druggers.  I know that many mines can be used for Parkour, etc, but for the purposes of this chart they should be considered as drugs.

[Gabe2607 499]

Why would you not use mines?

I can understand your aversion of the garage supplies, but mines are like side kicks. They don't make you stronger, they only change the map set up.

They are part of the game, they bring diversity and a new level to the gameplay and offer opportunity for new tactics.

In this Topic I tend not to "express" my "aversion" towards drugs. But just to reply to your kind question, I do not see the difference between mines and other drugs. Mines can be bought in quantities far superior than what a free user can make from Daily Missions, they give a major advantage through damage (10 mines around defense flag hardly give you any tactic to play with...) and provide only temporary benefit (differently than investments on equipment). Exactly like other drugs.

[Viking4s 10,791]

Yes, but there are many mine spammers who camp with Mammoth and Shafts, with Mines blocking every attack route :angry: They should still be considered druggers. I know that many mines can be used for Parkour, etc, but for the purposes of this chart they should be considered as drugs.

If you think that campers are not part of the game . . . then you aleardy lost.

You need to widen your gear and gameplay style to adapt to situation where opponents have created a winning strategy. For example running in the middle of a battlefield surveyed by shafts in Hornet hull with no double armour drops and no shaft protection module this is not a winning strategy: Highways and Brest. You must be patient and wait for the right drops to be available before attacking.

Edited December 16, 2016 by Viking4s

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

If you think that campers are not part of the game . . . then you aleardy lost.

You need to widen your gear and gameplay style to adapt to situation where opponents have created a winning strategy. For example running in the middle of a battlefield surveyed by shafts in Hornet hull with no double armour drops and no shaft protection module this is not a winning strategy: Highways and Brest. You must be patient and wait for the right drops to be available before attacking.

You completely missed the point. :lol:

 

On my other main account I use M2 Shaft. I "camp" and "hide" and "run" :D  

 

My point was that Mines Count AS Drugs. It had nothing to do with Snipers at all, I was just giving an example.

[Gabe2607 499]

If you think that campers are not part of the game . . . then you aleardy lost.

You need to widen your gear and gameplay style to adapt to situation where opponents have created a winning strategy. For example running in the middle of a battlefield surveyed by shafts in Hornet hull with no double armour drops and no shaft protection module this is not a winning strategy: Highways and Brest. You wait for the right drops to be available to attacked.

We are getting off topic... The terms Campers is abused: there are users who hide in defense scared, but most are just defending and a defense is always necessary between two similar teams or when you are ahead by little and time is ticking. Being a non drugger in standard battles, I am much better as a defender.

 

The second part you mentioned is strategy: I love strategy with all my heart and it is maximized in non-drugs battles. I wish there would be more communication, but... :(

[Viking4s 10,791]

In this Topic I tend not to "express" my "aversion" towards drugs. But just to reply to your kind question, I do not see the difference between mines and other drugs. Mines can be bought in quantities far superior than what a free user can make from Daily Missions, they give a major advantage through damage (10 mines around defense flag hardly give you any tactic to play with...) and provide only temporary benefit (differently than investments on equipment). Exactly like other drugs.

It's OK to have aversion, it doesn't transpire here but it does on other topic you have contributed to.

I disagree on the "free player don't have enough mines", as I am a so called free player. All the supplies in my garage are from the daily mission, weekly chain and the kit I buy. I use what I need and choose my battle accordingly. I stay in loosing team sometime because I will complete a Daily mission so I can still banter the opponent.

Mine around flags never last, once you know about it I conduct suicidal raids to take them out an make a breach in the defence. So next attack I know where to go. Also when you do it make sure you find Double Armour drop and/or take the mine when your HP is low.

Edited December 16, 2016 by Viking4s

[Gabe2607 499]

It's OK to have aversion, it doesn't transpire here but it does on other topic you have contributed to.

I disagree on the "free player don't have enough mines", as I am a so called free player. All the supplies in my garage are from the daily mission, weekly chain and the kit I buy. I use what I need and choose my battle accordingly. I stay in loosing team sometime because I will complete a Daily mission so I can still banter the opponent.

Mine around flags never last, once you know about it I conduct suicidal raids to take them out an make a breach in the defence. So next attack I now where to go. Also when you do it make sure you fond double armour of take the mine when your HP is low.

I am going to the movies so next posts will have to wait :D

 

I try to keep this topic strictly about biggest druggers, numbers and discussion on those numbers, leaving my "spicy" comments on other topics more centered on that.

 

You say you have enough mines. You used 3,042 of them. Someone else used 118,000+ in the same time frame. Not really the same, don't you think?

[Viking4s 10,791]

You completely missed the point. :lol:

On my other main account I use M2 Shaft. I "camp" and "hide" and "run" :D

My point was that Mines Count AS Drugs. It had nothing to do with Snipers at all, I was just giving an example.

If i missed the point, maybe its because you used, at the best a misleading example and at the worse an off topic example.

 

"Mines Count AS Drugs." you need to aligned with Gabe who said it's the amount used that make the Drug and not the supply itself.

Once you have reach an agreement between yourself we can discuss further. However I will not be able to agree with you on the zero mines utilisation as I myself advise to consolidate camping position with them, or re-enforce flag protection and reduce entry point to a place in DM mode or as a booby trap while escaping with the flag. I'm not going to participate to a race and cute one of my leg before the start while the rules say I can use my both legs.

Edited December 16, 2016 by Viking4s

[Viking4s 10,791]

I try to keep this topic strictly about biggest druggers, numbers and discussion on those numbers, [...].

 

You say you have enough mines. You used 3,042 of them. Someone else used 118,000+ in the same time frame. Not really the same, don't you think?

The very list in the OP collate all the so called drugs, however:

* If mine are not considered as drugs then they should be remove from the total.

* if a certain amount of mine is allowed (how much and on which basis) then the very same amount should be removed.

 

Furthermore have you considered the fact that people use those very mines and supplies in specific battle:

* hard format where the use of supplies is is the quintessence of the battle

* Parkour mode to practice parkour which implies the use of lost of them

* STGs and other game done in parkour mode where literally thousands of mines are used to pave a map

 

Then considering this, the list of the biggest druggers is somehow biased and inaccurate. Therefore I think this kind of topics just re-enforce and fuel a biased view of supplies uses and user. Create an atmosphere that put everybody in the same bag regardless of the use they do of the supplies.

 

So it comes to your question "Not really the same, don't you think?" Yes it's the same as I'm called a drugger in battle!

So yes this is the same to me.

Edited December 16, 2016 by Viking4s

[Benefactor 6,888]

How do mines enhance turrets or hulls? 

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

If i missed the point, maybe its because you used, at the best a misleading example and at the worse an off topic example.

 

"Mines Count AS Drugs." you need to aligned with Gabe who said it's the amount used that make the Drug and not the supply itself.

Once you have reach an agreement between yourself we can discuss further. However I will not be able to agree with you on the zero mines utilisation as I myself advise to consolidate camping position with them, or re-enforce flag protection and reduce entry point to a place in DM mode or as a booby trap while escaping with the flag. I'm not going to participate to a race and cute one of my leg before the start while the rules say I can use my both legs.

I never expressed "zero mines utilisation" and don't know where you got that from.  In fact, the drugs you get from missions and stuff were meant to be used. Everyone has equal access to those supplies. However, don't think that using mines is any "less drugging" than using any other supply, (and I hope you don't twist my words again, thanks)

 

My point was that mines should count as drugs because they can enhance your performance as much as any DD or DA. The sniper example I used was not misleading or off-topic because snipers tend to camp and use mines, so it's the most fitting example.

[Benefactor 6,888]

Mine around flags never last, once you know about it I conduct suicidal raids to take them out an make a breach in the defence. So next attack I now where to go. Also when you do it make sure you fond double armour of take the mine when your HP is low.

STG strategy.  :)

But kill the key guy and rage loudly sets in.  :lol:

[Viking4s 10,791]

I never expressed "zero mines utilisation" and don't know where you got that from.  In fact, the drugs you get from missions and stuff were meant to be used. Everyone has equal access to those supplies. However, don't think that using mines is any "less drugging" than using any other supply, (and I hope you don't twist my words again, thanks)

 

My point was that mines should count as drugs because they can enhance your performance as much as any DD or DA. The sniper example I used was not misleading or off-topic because snipers tend to camp and use mines, so it's the most fitting example.

simple: "Mines Count AS Drugs."

This doesn't leave room for debate from your side: if i use one single mine then I drug.

Next time make sure you're clear on the point you want to stress so we don't misinterpret.

However they you still wrote after that "However, don't think that using mines is any "less drugging"". ??? Can't you not make that sentence not any less twisted? What are you trying to say? If this is not less drugging then it is drugging?

Seems like you twist your own word or you don't know what you want to say.

Edited December 16, 2016 by Viking4s

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

simple: "Mines Count AS Drugs."

This doesn't leave room for debate from your side: if i use one single mine then I drug. Yes. Using a mine is considered "drugging". However, it doesn't make you a "drugger" in the sense we're talking here. I sometimes use a Double Armor for flags, it doesn't make me a "drugger".

 

Next time make sure you're clear on the point you want to stress so we don't misinterpret. Next time please at least try to understand.

However they you still wrote after that "However, don't think that using mines is any "less drugging"". ??? Can't you not make that sentence not any less twisted? What are you trying to say? If this is not less drugging then it is drugging?

Seems like you twist your own word or you don't know what you want to say.

 

No, it's perfectly clear. It is you that fails to understand. Pay attention:

 

Using mines is not a "lesser" form of drugging. It is right up there with using a Double Damage. That's what I mean, and please, please try to take the time (5 seconds-maybe?) to understand.

Edited December 16, 2016 by r_I_already_won0

[Viking4s 10,791]

 

Maybe take 10 minutes to put down your idea in one post so you don't have to post 10 times.

The best of the year: "drugging does not make you a drugger"

 

I believe you meant "using supply doesn't make you a drugger" . It's all about quantity.  I see we are saying the same thing but your not using the proper words.

 

It is well established that: the term drugger is used when drugging, e.i. intensive use of supplies. Term overused by people who do not make the distinction between supplies and drug and drops, enhance confusion and lengthy post. Enhance your statement "Mines Count AS Drugs.".

However Mines are no drugs. Mines are supplies, the abuse of mines is assimilated to the abuse of drugs.

 

Like supplies gain by daily mission or drops are considered by you as normal supplies (still you call them drugs), bought supplies fall under your vision of abuse therefore are drugs too. If you don't make this distinction then what your trying to say above do not make sens.

Edited December 16, 2016 by Viking4s

[Gabe2607 499]

If i missed the point, maybe its because you used, at the best a misleading example and at the worse an off topic example.

 

"Mines Count AS Drugs." you need to aligned with Gabe who said it's the amount used that make the Drug and not the supply itself.

Once you have reach an agreement between yourself we can discuss further. However I will not be able to agree with you on the zero mines utilisation as I myself advise to consolidate camping position with them, or re-enforce flag protection and reduce entry point to a place in DM mode or as a booby trap while escaping with the flag. I'm not going to participate to a race and cute one of my leg before the start while the rules say I can use my both legs.

I really do not understand this post. I agree with that mines count as drugs and in this topic none asked you not to use mines.

 

The very list in the OP collate all the so called drugs, however:

* If mine are not considered as drugs then they should be remove from the total.

* if a certain amount of mine is allowed (how much and on which basis) then the very same amount should be removed.

 

Furthermore have you considered the fact that people use those very mines and supplies in specific battle:

* hard format where the use of supplies is is the quintessence of the battle

* Parkour mode to practice parkour which implies the use of lost of them

* STGs and other game done in parkour mode where literally thousands of mines are used to pave a map

 

Then considering this, the list of the biggest druggers is somehow biased and inaccurate. Therefore I think this kind of topics just re-enforce and fuel a biased view of supplies uses and user. Create an atmosphere that put everybody in the same bag regardless of the use they do of the supplies.

 

So it comes to your question "Not really the same, don't you think?" Yes it's the same as I'm called a drugger in battle!

So yes this is the same to me.

If this list is biased and inaccurate, feel free to make your own list. This list is about all drugs used, no matter if a user plays and drugs alone. And when they call you drugger, you need to decide if you are a Proud Drugger or an Ashamed Drugger: in the first case no offense, right? They are part of the game, druggers say. In the second case you know how to avoid the name calling...

 

How do mines enhance turrets or hulls? 

Mmmmm.... mines blow turrets and hulls up? B)

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Don't bother, he prefers quantity over quality

 

Don't edit my posts to change the content or I'll have you banned.

[Gabe2607 499]

Don't edit my posts to change the content or I'll have you banned.

He already read that before, didn't he? :D