Biggest Druggers

[Desty 275]

Out of curiosity, why was I removed from these ratings?

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Out of curiosity, why was I removed from these ratings?

When was the last time you played on this account? The note on page1 explains it. A 10 day period of inactivity will result in you not being listed. Log in and play and you'll come back. :)

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

30th actually. :lol:

#806 overall... but #35 among biggest druggers... so this means that there are 771 non-druggers better than him?  :ph34r:

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

#806 overall... but #35 among biggest druggers... so this means that there are 771 non-druggers better than him?  :ph34r:

Not necessarily.  I've added lots of druggers to the list but there are 100's out there I have missed because I don't religiously check everyone I come across.

 

 

[Desty 275]

When was the last time you played on this account? The note on page1 explains it. A 10 day period of inactivity will result in you not being listed. Log in and play and you'll come back. :)

Oh, so you actually got to play. That makes everything way harder.

 

Thanks for clearing it up. Cheers.

[Ofek_Eli 1]

very nice topic, 

good work @AbsoluteZero

 

Thanks

[Dutch 2]

No.Control added, can find m in some top places  -_-

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

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[Sword-of-Damocles 83]

Gabe was the best when he owned now it feels like you are applauding people for drugging it was called "Hall of shame" not "hall of fame". This topic is garbage

[Viking4s 10,791]

Gabe was the best when he owned now it feels like you are applauding people for drugging it was called "Hall of shame" not "hall of fame". This topic is garbage.

There is no problem for using supplies even in excess. And yes it is a "hall of fame" now, even before under the other title, drugers were happy to be on that list :D

[ILLUSION-ZONE 20]

Gabe was the best when he owned now it feels like you are applauding people for drugging it was called "Hall of shame" not "hall of fame". This topic is garbage

On the contrary, now that Zero has taken over the topic it just keeps getting better and better. There are so many interesting statistics here to look at. The efficiency place spoiler even gives a measure to how skilled druggers can be. Do enlighten me on how creating a list of stats based on biggest druggers is applauding druggers.

 

The only people that complain about druggers are losers. Since you think this topic is garbage, you (like most non-druggers) are envious of those that are able to drug, or, you have a relaxed brain and thus unable to understand the meaning of this topic.

 

Either way, you have my sympathy  :D

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

The efficiency place spoiler even gives a measure to how skilled druggers can be.

your effiency ranks #63th among the druggers, yet your overall efficiency ranks #1794th... this means that there are 1731 non-druggers more skilled than you.

 

so if this is applauding anythng i think that it's actually applauding druggers for how unskilled they are. hypothetically speaking, cause i don't feel that efficiency is a good measure of skill..

 

 

other than that i agree, more stats are better.

[ILLUSION-ZONE 20]

your overall efficiency ranks #1794th... this means that there are 1731 non-druggers more skilled than you.

No that is not what this means; there are other druggers with a better efficiency place than mine that are not on that list, so it can't possibly mean "there are 1731 non-druggers more skilled than you." 

 

Read it again. ;)

Edited February 5, 2019 by ILLUSION-ZONE

[Hancho 3,902]

your effiency ranks #63th among the druggers, yet your overall efficiency ranks #1794th... this means that there are 1731 non-druggers more skilled than you.

 

so if this is applauding anythng i think that it's actually applauding druggers for how unskilled they are. hypothetically speaking, cause i don't feel that efficiency is a good measure of skill..

 

 

other than that i agree, more stats are better.

Players need to confirm if they want to be put in the list. Actually, efficiency is a good of measuring skill because in order for the efficiency to move up, you gotta place 1st or 2nd in every single battle you join in - Ending up in the last place, the efficiency will go down, it is really hard to maintain these numbers. 

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

Players need to confirm if they want to be put in the list.

no they don't.. you can request to be removed but you'll automatically be added in if you qualify. some of my russian friends are in the list even though they have never even registered in this forum.

 

 

Actually, efficiency is a good of measuring skill because in order for the efficiency to move up, you gotta place 1st or 2nd in every single battle you join in - Ending up in the last place, the efficiency will go down, it is really hard to maintain these numbers. 

really? how do you know? i myself have been wondering how efficiency was calculated. although one thing i noticed is that every time i buy a new turret/hull my efficiency goes up by about 2k.

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

No that is not what this means; there are other druggers with a better efficiency place than mine that are not on that list, so it can't possibly mean "there are 1731 non-druggers more skilled than you." 

 

Read it again. ;)

either way, people like ths guy does not qualify for the list https://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/CkuJIoBbIu.Haru6aTop yet they have better efficiency than you. so that efficiency list serves to prove that you are making very good use of those drugs...

Edited February 5, 2019 by ZloyDanuJI

[Hancho 3,902]

really? how do you know? i myself have been wondering how efficiency was calculated. although one thing i noticed is that every time i buy a new turret/hull my efficiency goes up by about 2k.

What do you mean how do I know? I have been keeping track on it. I place 1st/2nd each battle and the efficiency goes up - If I place last (which doesn't happen), it goes down 

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

What do you mean how do I know? I have been keeping track on it. I place 1st/2nd each battle and the efficiency goes up - If I place last (which doesn't happen), it goes down 

okay, i accept that. so it is a good measurement of skill. in that case.. gues which drugger doesn't place 1st as often as some of the non druggers..

[Hancho 3,902]

okay, i accept that. so it is a good measurement of skill. in that case.. gues which drugger doesn't place 1st as often as some of the non druggers..

Don't get me wrong - I have seen people drugging the whole battle who end up placing nearly last. It's not about the drugs, it is about knowledge of your game-play. I have said this many times - If you figure out how to play the game against the opponents, you will see progress, which you have to use drugs etc.  

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

no they don't.. you can request to be removed but you'll automatically be added in if you qualify. some of my russian friends are in the list even though they have never even registered in this forum.

Let me just correct you. When I have a minute or two, I sometimes click on a player's name, (using another script I wrote), and if their stats are sufficient enough to make one of the spoilers, they will be added. This is how some players get on the list. Since this has been going in this format, nobody has requested their names be taken off. Actually, I regularly get pm's asking me to add them. Players are proud to be here.

 

So if someone is 63rd in the efficiency list and placed 1000, it doesn't mean that there are 937 non-druggers ahead of them. Many might be druggers, many might not be. I don't have all of tanki's stats to hand. I can only go from what has been made publically available and I only have looked at a tiny fraction of those.

 

How efficiency is calculated is not something I have dwelled on. But the 4 main things it considers are crystals, experience, kills & deaths. The system was changed a while back to eliminate easy advancements via gold boxes, rank-ups, power-leveling etc. The only crystals that are taken into account now are those earned from battles.

 

Having a high k/d contributes a small part to a player's place but the crystals / experience ratio is the main deciding factor. Sometimes a high k/d is not beneficial.

 

It helps to be on the winning side. It doesn't really matter where you finish because everyone gets a portion of their side's battlefund allocation that is proportional and determined from their score. The winner gets a tiny bit more, i.e. the remainders from the other players are added after their reward has been rounded down to the nearest whole number.

 

Having a high efficiency place doesn't necessarily mean your better than the players below you although it might be the case, it just means you regularly get high rewards for relatively low effort. This could be for any number of reasons. Better equipment, more drugs, battle-groups, drones, premium, playing just for double funds etc... even those crystal boxes that fell from the sky a few years back had an impact.

 

The higher you go, the harder it is to maintain your rating and place but there is plenty of scope for improvement by everyone. This because of those changes made a while back.

 

All these changes we've seen seem to revolve around MatchMaking and it looks to me tanki have taken a number of steps to try and get battles that are balanced. The better/stronger you are, the more likely it is you'll be sided with noob or weak players. It's not a perfect system but it attempts to find a balance.

Edited February 5, 2019 by AbsoluteZero

[ZloyDanuJI 409]

The higher you go, the harder it is to maintain your rating and place but there is plenty of scope for improvement by everyone. This because of those changes made a while back.

 

All these changes we've seen seem to revolve around MatchMaking and it looks to me tanki have taken a number of steps to try and get battles that are balanced. The better/stronger you are, the more likely it is you'll be sided with noob or weak players. It's not a perfect system but it attempts to find a balance.

okay i understand but.. about the higher you go part.. i sort of observed quite the opposite..like the higher you go, the higher your efficiency gets. every time i rank up my efficiency rises. and some people who create new accounts and buy premium, kits and drugs have colossal exp/crystal ratios, K/Ds but only have an efficiency a fraction of mine.

 

 

So if someone is 63rd in the efficiency list and placed 1000, it doesn't mean that there are 937 non-druggers ahead of them. Many might be druggers, many might not be. I don't have all of tanki's stats to hand. I can only go from what has been made publically available and I only have looked at a tiny fraction of those.

okay maybe not ALL, but we have access to the top #100 efficiency rating players, and manty of them do not qualify for the hall of fame even if we ignore the fact that they haven't been active for the past 10 days. so these people are definately examples of non druggers better (in terms of efficiency) than our friend here @ILLUSION-ZONE

 

 

 

btw out of curiousity may i just ask what's the purpose of the efficiency list here? like what do you hope to do based on it? cause i'm afraid that what i've tried to analyse is the only thing i can see you can do from it.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

okay i understand but.. about the higher you go part.. i sort of observed quite the opposite..like the higher you go, the higher your efficiency gets. every time i rank up my efficiency rises. and some people who create new accounts and buy premium, kits and drugs have colossal exp/crystal ratios, K/Ds but only have an efficiency a fraction of mine.

Every rank up before the rank of Legend will increase your efficiency. This stops after Legend.

Rating can go up as well as down. Have a bad day and your rating could slip a few points and you could fall many places. When you're in the top 100 efficiency places, it is extremely difficult to improve but so easy to slide backwards.

 

As I said, when the changes were made about a year or two ago, these changes made it possible for everyone to get a higher rating at a faster rate. The majority have been improving their efficiency ever since. Eventually, given enough time, players will stop improving and reach their level.

 

 

okay maybe not ALL, but we have access to the top #100 efficiency rating players, and manty of them do not qualify for the hall of fame even if we ignore the fact that they haven't been active for the past 10 days. so these people are definately examples of non druggers better (in terms of efficiency) than our friend here @ILLUSION-ZONE

I have not checked the top #100. I checked some but not all. The page layout makes it difficult to copy names directly onto my clipboard so I haven't been bothered.

 

You haven't considered that I only have 100-150 spots for each spoiler either. Just because someone doesn't make one of the spoilers, it doesn't automatically make them a non-drugger. I'm a drugger but I only match Batteries and Paints but even if I had 1000 spots in each spoiler, I still wouldn't qualify for any. But I'm still a drugger, just not one of the biggest druggers. The word 'Biggest' sort of gives it away.

 

 

btw out of curiousity may i just ask what's the purpose of the efficiency list here? like what do you hope to do based on it? cause i'm afraid that what i've tried to analyse is the only thing i can see you can do from it.

Lots of players visit this topic to see stats. Because I could, I added the efficiency spoiler as a bonus sort of reward for those players in or within touching distance of making one of the main spoilers. It adds a bit of competition and some players will try to keep improving their stats.

 

The weekly movement indication is a good addition too. It gives players impetus to play regularly.

Edited February 6, 2019 by AbsoluteZero

[Bydo 20,120]

just wondering if you also look at the other accounts players use or is it based only on one account..

 

if you do other accounts are ..24-carrot ( which use to be the main bydolord account) , Evil-Woman . Oh-Really..

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

just wondering if you also look at the other accounts players use or is it based only on one account..

 

if you do other accounts are ..24-carrot ( which use to be the main bydolord account) , Evil-Woman . Oh-Really..

added: Oh-Really

 

the others were already counted

[Hancho 3,902]

So, nobody will take over this topic?