Can someone help tech explain?

[DageLV 940]

If a player doesn't have the basic skill to properly entitle his idea topic, then it already sets a poor first impression and shows poor qualitative proposal skills and we can't afford to waste time on such, even if its 30 seconds, including page load time, reading, understanding, clicking on links/images etc.... 

Ou so i guess i got all this "Idea" thing wrong. I was thinking that we must give devs some hints and stuff like that so they can make our idea in game as they see it not to do all what we say without any changes as i understand from this post.

If ideas title is mentioning part of idea it automaticaly gets hided so noone can see it or ever find it (Lets say merged with "Ideas for hulls/gamemodes/missions/turrets/suplies" and such topics) and automaticaly gets declined without giving a reason why. 

[Maf 32,300]

Well, most of the ideas are stupid. The ones that arent stupid get a [under review] tag and then archived for eternity. Look at all the topics that say [started], they are all things already in development. Its just an excuse for them to tell us the devs listen.

And now look at all of the ideas with the tag [Completed] and tell me again how player ideas are being ignored. Also, valid ideas with the Under review tag are never archived and remain pending until developers either implement it or specifically announce that the idea will not happen.

 

If ideas title is mentioning part of idea it automaticaly gets hided so noone can see it or ever find it (Lets say merged with "Ideas for hulls/gamemodes/missions/turrets/suplies" and such topics) and automaticaly gets declined without giving a reason why. 

Ideas merged with those topics aren't hidden - they are still there for anyone to discuss. In fact, a few of the more interesting ideas are even kept as separate topics despite being relevant to one of the bigger ones. I usually only merge the topics which have little to no chance of being added to the game, really common ideas or valid ideas which are very minor, so having them in their own topic is pointless.

[DageLV 940]

And now look at all of the ideas with the tag [Completed] and tell me again how player ideas are being ignored. Also, valid ideas with the Under review tag are never archived and remain pending until developers either implement it or specifically announce that the idea will not happen.

And how much of those ideas arent actualy completed? Lets say XT paint topic? IT has [Completed] tag but i havent seen XT paint in garage.

Ideas merged with those topics aren't hidden - they are still there for anyone to discuss. In fact, a few of the more interesting ideas are even kept as separate topics despite being relevant to one of the bigger ones. I usually only merge the topics which have little to no chance of being added to the game, really common ideas or valid ideas which are very minor, so having them in their own topic is pointless.

Actualy ideas merged with those topics are hided. Noone looks into these topics for weeks or months and all what you do is just merge them. Also users who thinks that these topics are being checked post some realy good ideas in them and what happens with those ideas? Sun never shines on them.

Literaly the best way to make sure noone sees your post whatever you do is to post them in those sections. (Ive tested it. Somewhere in middle there should be post wich may result in ban but ofc this section is checked so often that noone even saw that and it was quite long post.)

[Maf 32,300]

 And how much of those ideas arent actualy completed? Lets say XT paint topic? IT has [Completed] tag but i havent seen XT paint in garage.

We already had that argument. There is no longer an "XT paints" topic. The completed idea has a similar concept, while "XT paints" in their literal interpretation is declined. As far as I know, there are no more issues with other completed ideas.

 

 Actualy ideas merged with those topics are hided. Noone looks into these topics for weeks or months and all what you do is just merge them. 

That's because developers are currently not considering any ideas for any of these categories. I don't want to decline them all saying "developers don't want any ideas for new turrets (or maps/missions/etc.), but neither do I want the ideas section to be flooded with a bunch of individual topics for small things like new missions, which is why we have the category topics. It's likely that one day developers will actually be in need of new ideas and they will check these topics (or ask us to check them and summarise the best ideas).

[DageLV 940]

We already had that argument. There is no longer an "XT paints" topic. The completed idea has a similar concept, while "XT paints" in their literal interpretation is declined. As far as I know, there are no more issues with other completed ideas.

Well i could check that section but not atm. Im at school right now and at home im making hulls (Just for fun)

That's because developers are currently not considering any ideas for any of these categories. I don't want to decline them all saying "developers don't want any ideas for new turrets (or maps/missions/etc.), but neither do I want the ideas section to be flooded with a bunch of individual topics for small things like new missions, which is why we have the category topics. It's likely that one day developers will actually be in need of new ideas and they will check these topics (or ask us to check them and summarise the best ideas).

Well then you could ask them for reason WHY they dont want new turrets and such stuff so you could post it main topic of each section and after merging idea say "Reason for declining is posted in main topic" or something like that so players realy do know what and why devs dont want it.

Right now as far as i know everyone in forum thinks that devs are kinda lazy and none of them want to make stuff what players want. Lets say 1 of those things is HIGHTLY requested-More XT's and lower modification XT's and guess what? Noone knows reason why they dont want more XT's and we(players) keep posting that one idea over and over again...

Edited November 2, 2016 by DageLV

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

I had a feeling that this will be a discussions at 2 - 3 pages, as usual...

[Cyborg 3,189]

The ideas are sometimes merged to the main ones so that all the ideas which are related to the same thing/similar can be kept at one place. So when the devs go through it they can find it all at once instead of going through multiple topics.

 

Merging is also done to keep the section clean and serene or it would be a gigantic mess and not-so-feasible place to post and read ideas, making stuff harder for both, the devs and the users.

Edited November 2, 2016 by Cyborg

[DageLV 940]

The ideas are sometimes merged to the main ones so that all the ideas which are related to the same thing/similar can be kept at one place. So when the devs go through it they can find it all at once instead of going through multiple topics.

 

Merging is also done to keep the section clean and serene or it would be a gigantic mess and not-so-feasible place to post and read ideas, making stuff harder for both, the devs and the users.

Go on any of those sections and do you think its easy to find some ideas? All of them are like "Make hull faster than wasp with 2x more health than mammoth" and such...

[Cyborg 3,189]

Go on any of those sections and do you think its easy to find some ideas? All of them are like "Make hull faster than wasp with 2x more health than mammoth" and such...

And that is the reason they get merged because they do not make much sense.

Edited November 2, 2016 by Cyborg

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

And now look at all of the ideas with the tag [Completed] and tell me again how player ideas are being ignored. Also, valid ideas with the Under review tag are never archived and remain pending until developers either implement it or specifically announce that the idea will not happen.

How about the hundreds of people constantly complaining about the game being p2w? People want the older version of tanki back, so why dont they listen?

[Cyborg 3,189]

It is human nature to hate changes, bringing back or reverting to older versions is not upgradation but degradation which is not at all fit for an online game such as TO.

Edited November 2, 2016 by Cyborg

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

It is human nature to hate changes, vringing back or reverting to older versions is not upgradation but degradation which is not at all fit for an online game such as TO.

Degrading? These people arent hating new updates because it changes the game, theyre hating it because most of them just make buyers stronger. Think about it, they keep changing the stats of peoples equipment for no reason. Think of all the people that bought viking and were then screwed over because SOMEONE thought it was a good idea to just swap it with hunter. Why not just give them hunter instead? Or refund the crystals of all the people that bought isida? Theyre just trying to make people as weak as possible (except vulcan users, for some reason) so buyers with 50/50 equipment 10 ranks before theyre supposed to get it dominate the game. They get to buy product kits at any time, they get supplies cheaper now and buyers exclusive paints that are just rip-offs of older paints. All that said, is old tanki really that degrading compared to today?

[Cyborg 3,189]

Degrading? These people arent hating new updates because it changes the game, theyre hating it because most of them just make buyers stronger. Think about it, they keep changing the stats of peoples equipment for no reason. Think of all the people that bought viking and were then screwed over because SOMEONE thought it was a good idea to just swap it with hunter. Why not just give them hunter instead? Or refund the crystals of all the people that bought isida? Theyre just trying to make people as weak as possible (except vulcan users, for some reason) so buyers with 50/50 equipment 10 ranks before theyre supposed to get it dominate the game. They get to buy product kits at any time, they get supplies cheaper now and buyers exclusive paints that are just rip-offs of older paints. All that said, is old tanki really that degrading compared to today?

Buyer paints provide anything except looks to them? There had been a major re balance in the past too, players hated it too, some even quit, but this game is still running and pretty well don't you think? The game needs updates and balances from time to time in order to function smoothly, bring a new gameplay experience and keep it intersting for players who have already achieved everything. Viking is not bad IMO. I use it greatly and I love it moreafter the update. Why is drifting even bad eh? Purchases are made by the player based on his preference and don't you think it will be hard for devs to calculate no. Of players who have isida and then refund them. That's just unreal. Before the global update the turrets which were considered UP have been buffed now because users complained but it seems even after all those efforts by the devs have still resulted in more complaints.

 

Just to remind you. We are going off topic.

Edited November 2, 2016 by Cyborg

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

Buyer paints provide anything except looks to them? There had been a major re balance in the past too, players hated it too, some even quit, but this game is still running and pretty well don't you think? The game needs updates and balances from time to time in order to function smoothly, bring a new gameplay experience and keep it intersting for players who have already achieved everything. Viking is not bad IMO. I use it greatly and I love it moreafter the update. Why is drifting even bad eh? Purchases are made by the player based on his preference and don't you think it will be hard for devs to calculate no. Of players who have isida and then refund them. That's just unreal. Before the global update the turrets which were considered UP have been buffed now because users complained but it seems even after all those efforts by the devs have still resulted in more complaints.

Game updates are for bug fixes, new features and overall better gameplay. Tanki online "updates" just completely mess up the game. It shouldnt be that hard to keep people enjoying a game for years without updates, there are tons of game that have done that. "purchases are made by the player based on his preference" Like how people want a stable hull like viking and then for absolutely no reason it gets swapped with hunter. How would you feel if your favorite turret, shaft, had a huge damage decrease and rotation speed that made it hard to aim at tanks? Oh wait... And what if they got refunded for the stuff they had after a rebalance, surely something like that is impossible and has never been done in the past...

[DageLV 940]

 There had been a major re balance in the past too, players hated it too, some even quit, but this game is still running and pretty well don't you think? 

Not gonna read all but this one hit my eye.

70k peple on halloween is a lot? Is it? No its not. Its nothing like it was before (100 000+ people daily online all the time)

Also i can agree with railgunz about buyers. Im buyer and each update literaly helps me to dominate each battle where ijoin more and more...

Edited November 2, 2016 by DageLV

[r_Damn_Slow0 12,476]

Not gonna read all but this one hit my eye.

rude! you expect people to read your silly walls, but you don't want to hear their counter arguments.

 

All the problems raised by the OP has been addressed. We'll close the topic now. Thanks for your feedback

 

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