Episode 113 of the V-LOG is here

[Darren4Turbo 4,913]

And we will have to pay for a clan every month to keep it open, I guess?

[Stealth-Mode 0]

 

I love my job!

 

It seems like there is a bit of misunderstanding regarding this "clan" system. Specifically that part about creating clan for real money. Let's clear few things out, shell we?

 

Creating an in-game clan will be a paid option. Creating an in-game clan in any free to play game is a paid option. But joining clan and sharing it's bonuses is free for anybody, as long as clan leader agrees.

 

I should put more emphasis on "in-game" clan, actually. I won't even call them "Clans" in game, so it will be easier to get the point. Current clans and CS system will stay the way they are. Clans in game will most likely be called "Armies" and will not be involved in current CS activities as this is two different systems. You can create your clans, manage them, play tournaments as usual.

 

See where am I going with this? This "clans" mentioned in V-LOG is in-game convenience, hence paid option. Nobody will force any current clan leader to pay anything in order to keep his clans going. You can skip in-game clans and play CS as you always do.

 

So it seems like a premium clan system. Like how with premium you pay to get extra exp/cry, access to buying special equipment, a special paint etc... for the 'premium clan system', you pay to get the convenience of having a special chat and other useful clan organisational tools in-game rather than in the forum. Having a clan tag next to your username seems like being able to use the premium paint if you've bought premium - you're paying to have something to 'show off'.

 

Anyone can play for free, but you can choose to buy premium, to make it easier and get extra features.

Anyone can create a clan (in the forum), but you can choose to pay for the 'premium clan system', to make it easier and get extra features.

 

 

I think an in-game clan system would be great, but it would be better if everyone could have it. I think it would be better to at least have it to be free to create a clan and get 'basic' features, and then you could have paid options to unlock a few 'special' features. After all, if more people could use the system, then it would be a better system, as if clans are using the clan war/match-up feature, there'd be more potential opponents.

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

btw, could you pls tell us

• how much the creation of a clan will cost (1 EUR, 5 EUR ?)
• if the name and tag can be changed afterwards
• if the clan leadership can be handed over to someone else for free

  (leaderships change and the most gifted next-leader is not necessarily a buyer..)

• If any other features of the clan thing will cost money, except the creation (as far as you know by now)?

Can't tell anything specific on a price yet, but it will not be anything noticeably expensive.

 

Clan name and tag will not be changeable in first iteration. But it will be changeable afterwards.

 

Clan leadership can be shared but not handed over to anybody.

 

Currently only clan creation is behind pay wall. Other features can be obtained by playing the game. More on that will be available after we start working on second iteration

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

And we will have to pay for a clan every month to keep it open, I guess?

Nope.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

 

Clan leadership can be shared but not handed over to anybody.

Umm... Why?

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Can't tell anything specific on a price yet, but it will not be anything noticeable expensive.

 

Clan name and tag will not be changeable in first iteration. But it will be changeable afterwards.

 

Clan leadership can be shared but not handed over to anybody.

 

Currently only clan creation is behind pay wall. Other features can be obtained by playing the game. More on that will be available after we start working on second iteration

thanks for the fast feedback.

[Jwimmer 2,835]

Can't tell anything specific on a price yet, but it will not be anything noticeable expensive.

 

Clan name and tag will not be changeable in first iteration. But it will be changeable afterwards.

 

Clan leadership can be shared but not handed over to anybody.

 

Currently only clan creation is behind pay wall. Other features can be obtained by playing the game. More on that will be available after we start working on second iteration

So what happens if a clan leader of a well-established clan goes inactive for any reason? Will the clan and its rankings just be erased an another one have to be created?

 

Also, its good to see the price tag will be low atleast. I still disapprove of it being real money though. Also, thanks for not completely ignoring us.

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

Umm... Why?

Fraud. Payment system abuse. As there is no premium in-game currency, there are limitations on in-game systems.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Umm... Why?

But the old leader can stay in as owner, and a chosen officer does the real leadership. This could work.

Edited November 4, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[Jwimmer 2,835]

Fraud. Payment system abuse. As there is no premium in-game currency, there are limitations on in-game systems.

Easy solution: Make clans purchasable with crystals.

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

So what happens if a clan leader of a well-established clan goes inactive for any reason? Will the clan and its rankings just be erased an another one have to be created?

 

Also, its good to see the price tag will be low atleast. I still disapprove of it being real money though. Also, thanks for not completely ignoring us.

We will handle this kind of clans manually for a while. I plan for system to buy-out clan leadership by any clan member if clan leader goes offline for whatever reasons. Will see if there will be a real need in that system.

 

As for price, my guess is less than 5$. Think of it as umm... game expansion? I know this statement is arguable, but gotta do something to keep this big boat afloat.

[I3ANNED 1,693]

You have to pay for clan... rip

[omrot 2,327]

Doesn't seems like anybody really upset about PA this days.

Member when Tanki used to have 100,000 players online? Ooh ooh I member

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

Easy solution: Make clans purchasable with crystals.

If clans be purchasable with crystals, the price tag would be ridiculous. It is either small payment or huge crystal pile. To put in perspective, it might be either 5$ or 1 000 000 crystals.

 

There are no easy solutions there.

[marto85 631]

Btw what would happen to all the clans on forum ?

they will stay. .................... I mean ik flash is old but u could let this game live at least for a year....meh idk nvm

[I3ANNED 1,693]

Also I would pay for a clan but thing is I always end up cancelling my clans within the first 2-3 months, that's why I don't join or make any clans anymore. Also hard to find good players around low ranks.

Edited November 4, 2016 by I3ANNED

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

Member when Tanki used to have 100,000 players online? Ooh ooh I member

Can we not start this argument again? Back than we paid for traffic to buy new players, as any game does. It got to the point of being too expensive to keep the game going. Since then this game run on viral traffic only. And it's doing pretty well.

[I3ANNED 1,693]

they will stay. .................... I mean ik flash is old but u could let this game live at least for a year....meh idk nvm

I really don't like Tanki X and I would hate to see this game close.

 

Btw how was the flash part related to my question? xdd

Edited November 4, 2016 by I3ANNED

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

1.000.000 crystals is acceptable if it can be shared by the first 10 members, that have to book into the clan within 48h after it's creation (no refund on later leave). The crystals are deduced from the accounts on the entry of the 10th member and if each player has at least those 100k on his account.
If the clan leaders friends fail to be a group of 10 within 48h (or have too less crystals), then the clan gets deleted again and no crystals are charged.
This ensures high ranked clans (organised, dedicated, stick for a while) by the free way; while lower ranked clans will have to pay real money.

Edited November 4, 2016 by BlackWasp777

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

Also I would pay for a clan but thing is I always end up cancelling my clans within the first 2-3 months, that's why I don't join or make any clans anymore. Also hard to find good players around low ranks.

Oh I know how it works! :D

 

This is why I plan this in-game clan system a bit differently than average game out there. Clans should be valuable for a clan leader, at least, with any players of any skill level. There will be an in-clan economy system involved. More on that will be in second interation.

[I3ANNED 1,693]

1.000.000 crystals is acceptable if it can be shared by the first 10 members, that have to book into the clan within 48h after it's creation (no refund on later leave). If the clan leaders friends fail to be a group of 10 within 48h (or have too less crystals), then the clan gets deleted again. This ensures high ranked clans by the free way; while lower ranked clans will have to pay real money.

Pls no crappy ideas. The payment is ok as long as it is under $5 if it is like 1 mil crystals then only high rankers would be taking part in esports and all the lower ranked players would be missing out. Also I don't think 9 other players would be willing to use their crystals for your clan.

Edited November 4, 2016 by I3ANNED

[marto85 631]

I really don't like Tanki X and I would hate to see this game close.

 

Btw how was the flash part related to my question? xdd

Because flash is no profit. Edited November 4, 2016 by marto85

[I3ANNED 1,693]

Oh I know how it works! :D

 

This is why I plan this in-game clan system a bit differently than average game out there. Clans should be valuable for a clan leader, at least, with any players of any skill level. There will be an in-clan economy system involved. More on that will be in second interation.

How about after buying a clan, you can make a clan but after you close it you can still make another clan to replace that one without buying it again.

 

So basically you buy like a clan pass or something and then you can make unlimited clans but no more than 1 at a time and after cancelling a clan you have to wait like 1 month or a longer cool down for to make another one.

 

Also maybe you can win clan passes from tournaments and contests.

Edited November 4, 2016 by I3ANNED

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

1.000.000 crystals is acceptable if it can be shared by the first 10 members...

Naturally, this is not how things work. 1.000.000 is a crystals price tag for a single player. Ten times for every member.

 

It is either cheap with money or overwhelmly expensive with crystals.

 

I can explain why, but there are obvoius reasons of crystals inflation in game towards higher ranks. M3 equipment is expencive for real money not because we are greedy =_= it is because of crystals being inflated. And being an only currency.

 

This is whole another big topic actually.

[Claudiu 562]

In those clan battles where you have to play we can win special paints like acid,gladiator?