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Why not making two kinds of TO Clans System :

  • VIP Clans or Premium Clans ( For real money and it gives more features and benefits )
  • Free Clans or Ordinary Clans  ( For high amount of crystals and it gives just some basic features and without benefits )

 

No more advantages for premium players please.

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Guys are you soo poor to pay 5 dollars? Oh my GOD!!!

Yes, we are so poor to pay 5 dollars, and that's why we play F2P games  :)

 

No more advantages for premium players please.

According to my idea, i just reduced some advantages from buyers and give it to non-buyers

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You have no idea, about either of them.

 

Sorry, all I see is one guy working tirelessly and even when he's on holiday he plans ahead... someone who is always part of the community by posting regularly, always online!

 


 

On the other hand we see another guy who doesn't handle applications in a timely manner, when there were no tourneys for 8 months he didn't write why or anything once, and is always having problems with the stuff he is supposed to handle (registrations being extended with us being notified 12+ hours later, grids being delayed etc...) And you say I got no idea? If he can't handle it, I suggest he should resign and be 1 admin only :)

 

True, he may have a lot of stuff being done behind the scenes, but how am I supposed to know this if he is never here on the forum?

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@Legend rank

  • in-battle stats screen (on TAB key):
    Please make the legend-number visible next to the rank logo there.
    If this is too hard, then include the info in the V- or R-view
     
  • Rank range allowed to enter a battle:
    from my experience at aproximately 2Mio XP a whole new level of skill and all-M4-equipment starts. Please give lower ranked players (like fresh baked Gismos) the opportunity to exclude those extreme pro's, while let them play with their close friends that just became Legends (L1s).
    It would be usefull if the rank-settings have the ranks [...]-[gismo]-[legend]-[legened3]

    You could also make a logo with slightly different colors for all legend 3+ players to support this battle rank-range settings thing:p
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Why not making two kinds of TO Clans System :

  • VIP Clans or Premium Clans ( For real money and it gives more features and benefits )
  • Free Clans or Ordinary Clans  ( For high amount of crystals and it gives just some basic features and without benefits )

 

This is exactly what the developers are doing -__-

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It was always planned to be a payed feature to support the game's income.

 

In order to earn real money with it, it makes sense to offer it for a rather "affordable" small amount of money (shortcut) or for a ridicoulous high price in crystals (as this is simply the unwanted scenario. Additionally crystal earnings are great in high ranks the price in crystals must be very, very, very high to motivate players to spend more likely the money then to sacrifice this large amount of crystals).

 

I bet most tier1 clans in EN would accept the 100.000 x 10 scenario.. but exectly therefore (because it is likely accepted) it is not done.

 

It is ok to have some premium features around here, as the old way to manage clans is still there.

They just missed to tell us it is premium :P

If tanki really wanted to start making money. they should put ads on the forum and in various places in the game. that way the players dont have to pay to play which would make more people want to play, which makes the ads earn more money because they get more views, which means tanki can put more money into the game, which makes more people play, which gets the ads more views, and on and on

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This is exactly why this is paid option only. Look at the current Shop in the game? Everything unique I put there cost not that much, but when it comes to Kits... oh boy.. them prices x_x

 

This is what happens when anything got it crystals price first and then you tries to bring in real world money price tag on it. This issue cannot be discussed in friday evening, sorry, as it takes a few good books to explain why in-game currency inflation connected to this pricing problem.. Let's just put it this way: Clans give you too much benefits to be sold for 20 or 30k crystals as you can get this many crystals relatively easy. Four bucks though is whole another story.

The benefits must be good then, especially if it would cost 1 mil crystals to start earning them.

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[Forum-Clan <-> Premium-Clan ] interworking:

It should not be allowed that I purchase the clan name "All Kind / AK" for some money although I am not leader of AK.

 

It should be impossible, that an abitrary player creates a premium-clan with the name of an existing forum-clan if he is not the leader of this existing forum-clan.

 

 

There should be a shared DB

-> used by the premium clan system

-> used by eSports moderators

 

The eSports mods should please fill the DB with the forum's clans names.

There the [clan name] + [leader user ID] are entered

As new forum-clans are added via premoderation, this is easy going.

As a forum-clan leaderchange is also done via en eSports mod, this is easy too.

 

The premium clan system can then use this DB on each creation of a premium-clan:

  • if the desired name is still available (no premium clan + no forum-clan with this name) then it works fine
  • if the name is taken already by a forum clan, then only the current leader (read from DB) may create the premium clan for this forum clan entry

If a forum moderator has to aproove a new forum clan

  • he has to check if an according premium clan exists.
  • If yes, then only the leader of the premium-clan may introduce this forum clan (forum is a usefull way to communicate trainings times and such stuff..)

 

 

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This would reduce the amount of available battles for higher level Legends and reduce the variety of maps to fight and complete missions on, particularly at time of day when this game is not so busy. Anyway, new Gismo's should be wanting to take on these higher level players. I had to find a way to compete with them, it was the best challenge in this game.

I thought about that, but I think it is pretty simmilar to today:

- If a player creates a battle, they are most likely created as "open up to Gismo".

- If some not so confident player creates a battle, he can choose the limit lower

 

I hardly doubt that all battles open up to gismo are created soely and only by gismos today ;)

 

The default setting of this selection bar has a far bigger influence on that.

And the default setting for Gismos should be open up to L3+.

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Sorry, all I see is one guy working tirelessly and even when he's on holiday he plans ahead... someone who is always part of the community by posting regularly, always online!

 


 

On the other hand we see another guy who doesn't handle applications in a timely manner, when there were no tourneys for 8 months he didn't write why or anything once, and is always having problems with the stuff he is supposed to handle (registrations being extended with us being notified 12+ hours later, grids being delayed etc...) And you say I got no idea? If he can't handle it, I suggest he should resign and be 1 admin only :)

 

True, he may have a lot of stuff being done behind the scenes, but how am I supposed to know this if he is never here on the forum?

I suggest you take this up to Cedric in a personal message instead of discussing it in the V-LOG topic. That is where complaints about administrators go.

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True, still don't see why these new Gismos should have the option of escaping these highly experienced pros though...I didn't, nor did I want to. B)

well it's a game with a lot of different players.

 

I'm maybe a little bit like you, as I played XP/BP vs Gismos on my main while I was +. It payed off back then. I skilled up fast (today I already forgot most again :P)

 

But I also know players that are like .. and don't like to play vs Gismos. MAINLY because of the M4-MU-update.

I guess this update was not in charge, while you stepped over the Gismo border and I assume you benefitted from it too ;)

This update truely made a change. I do remember playing as fresh gismo with my main.. and I feel how much harder it is today when I face a full-M4 enemy team, even though I have 2x M3 combos by myself already.

 

The chances are high, that most of those full M4 guys (and girls) will be in the Legend3+ range (or are there soon). Therefore I think this update will help a lot of players that have only M3s.

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ok so this clan thing all it will do is separate players who want to pay for exclusive club vs regular clans .. all it really means is one has advantageous over the other.... due to one you pay real cash and they other is in crystals ... so in other words no there is no difference to now a day life stuff .. for example people who pay to play sports with coaches and computation games and things compared to at home playing soccer with your mates for fun .. people who play on teams with coaches have a higher chance of making it into the big sports events compared to kids kicking a ball on the street .. you get noticed when  in a team games

 

for pro  passes well for the books i stopped using them due to i have no need to go to battles to play small battles or battles that take to long and never end ...why have them ,, premium passes i only use them if i get them from missions..

 

now off beat question is when will.. sorry i lost it will have to go back 2 pages to find it...

 

ok found it ... what i was wondering about was if your on the lower clan system would there be competitions  with the other clan system later on .. .. also does the money that is paid into the clan league , do's some of it not get paid back to the winning team in the end when the final play off happens in clan battles ?? if you can do a break down on where the $$ goes so players can see what you see , for example a % pays for the server provider for the utube channel for players to watch the computations against the top clans in the league .. also a % pays for ??

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There were tons of M4's around when I joined the Gismo ranks....I ranked up a couple of weeks after the insane Micro-upgrade giveaway, where they gave M4's to those that had only fully-upgraded 1 parameter on their M3's--(I assume this is what u mean by M4-MU-update), bad time to rank-up and I'd only had time to upgrade a couple of parameters on my newly-bought M3 kit.

 

But then again, some of these well-known elite-level players can join your team, you're effectively fighting alongside the best players in the game you've just been playing for years. But yes, I agree, now that Gismo isn't gonna be the elite rank, it will give those guys an extra 200k of EXP(and crystal rewards) to get ready for the top rank battles. These new Gismos have it soooo easy ;)  :D

you do see but then you don't see them ... see i play random battles i have some good players and then i have lower new players in gizmo .. so when it comes to the top players i have only seen a small bit of dust over my years here and for the ones who are they stay mainly with there friends and clan mates in there own battles so they can get more experance with learning how to improve there clan ..

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At least they had the cute girl tell us about the ridiculous paid clan system

lucky you have someone good looking to watch the v-log for .. we lady's have to have the v-log on one tab and watch something else on another

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Question about the Clan System. What would happen if someone bought the clan thing in game for their clan and then (however long down the road) desided to hand it over to someone else cause they simply dont have the time for TO anymore? Could they do this?

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@Hazel-rah: Good job, we will have a clean and functional clan system now. i hope the price of creating clan will be 5$ or less.
secondly do we have to pay for each phases like economy and battle phases too? 
Do the leader have to pay for extra sloths in clan? 
Do the member joining the clan also have to pay?
pls reply

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As for price, my guess is less than 5$. Think of it as umm... game expansion? I know this statement is arguable, but gotta do something to keep this big boat afloat.

Is it $5 that the leader has to pay? $5 Per Member? Just a one off payment? Are we paying just for the social phase or everything? :/

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