Changes in the battle creation system

[IDIDITTOYOU 23]

Yes and then the world ends on the 30th day, so you are right we did make a profit.

[Reallusion 9]

 What'll happen to those dead maps? Magistral, Duality, Courage, and other such maps will become obsolete, and Tanki will eventually just remove those! This is madness!

There are a lot of maps I don't play because they aren't good for my favorite hull/turret combinations.  If the comments in the VLOG are correct, then in the future I won't be able to pick the map I'll land on.  That will be a VERY bad change.

[Reallusion 9]

I am seeing this too. The game is a lot less fun now that I have to scour the servers for a decent battle or click that button repeatedly before it takes me somewhere worthwhile.

Exactly.  Giving away the Pro Pass diminishes the fun for a number of players.

[LittleWillie 3,199]

They only gave everyone a pro pass as transition veil the fact that it's free means nothing. They took a core mechanic, the ability to create battles and now they make you pay for something that was free. All the while exerting that a better system is coming on a distant horizon. I know quite a people are saying it only cost X amount of crystals and it's true IF* you a good player or an average player who has time to farm. If your not one of those two types of players depending on your rank it's now added tedious effort just to enjoy the same things you used to. Games in my rank most players earn <200 crystals for a 15 mins CTF battle (All I play is CTF so I can't speak to other matches). And then there is the whole well after you clear the initial cost it's profit? Profit of what? Having now payed to join the ability to play in the map of your choice without use of the battle button which now comes with the added benefit of not being drug free? So you get the same thing as before but now with the added benefit of being in the hole for the cost of a pro pass.

 

All this could have been rolled out better if the complete system was fully tested out in the testing server and implemented then rolled out or at least discussed in detail of how the new system will work in it's entirety but it wasn't. And I'm willing to bet it' because the idea of it isn't finished to begin with. On top of no one being able to even see results objectionably until after the week of free pro passes are gone. And yeah it will likely play out ok but that doesn't mean the implementation was done ok. I'm taking a break until it's all done and fully implemented.

I know what you are saying. The PRO pass cost whatever that might be is essentially a drain on earnings. It is very easy to image the game with every player able to use the PRO features automatically at no cost. On the surface there seems no compelling need to divide the player base into two groups like this at all.

 

OTOH Tanki is full of such oddities. This approach might be the most workable at this time. This seems like an improvement because it is now possible to find drug-free games. So maybe when the whole system is rolled out this piece will make more sense.

 

One thing is certain. The ability to set the PRO parameters works only when lots and lots of players are able to play in those games. So Tanki must find a way to ensure at least 40% (guestimate) of all accounts buy PRO passes at any given moment. So in the end they might just give the PRO passes out to everyone for free. That's the q00% sure way of ensureing a large player base for the PRO options.

[theFiringHand 21,351]

ok i just noticed that there were both parkour battles which i did not pay attention to due to real life things happening .. so for that sorry .. but i also understood this button would only take you to pro battles not normal ones.. if this is the case then why have it  .. too me its just making players lazy to just click on a button instead of using there own brains to find one .. like really

Casual players don't want to have to sift through battles. They want to click a button and get into the action. That's the whole point.

[theFiringHand 21,351]

This update is a straight LIE, How on Earth would I believe that removing standard battle creation the game will be easier for new players? Then you have to create a PRO battle instead!!! If it was difficult for a new player to create a standard battle, how it would be to create a pro one???? 

 

I know that the "Battle" button is for those who can create a battle, but if I need to play on Barda map to complete a mission I have to enter the battle button over and over until "destiny" brings me to Barda map. If I don't want to do this, I have to spend on a pro pass or forget to play Tanki. At least you made the pass cheaper.

 

Well, finally I'm quiet disappointed of this update and your excuses are far-fetched. 

No, you don't have to click the Battle button over and over till "destiny" brings you to a Barda map. All you need to do is look at the battle list and select a battle that's taking place on Barda. If there are none on your server, try another server. The ONLY difference is that in the past you had the option to create a battle on Barda, but the battle would've been empty anyway.

[arnav0506 2,777]

No, you don't have to click the Battle button over and over till "destiny" brings you to a Barda map. All you need to do is look at the battle list and select a battle that's taking place on Barda. If there are none on your server, try another server. The ONLY difference is that in the past you had the option to create a battle on Barda, but the battle would've been empty anyway.

Okay, so you mean to say we can join battles we wanna by just selecting a map, say Solikamsk, and click "battle" and enter the battle we selected? Like, there is a "Play" button too, but just asking..

[sre123 595]

 but the battle would've been empty anyway.

Haha, so it's you, who is preventing players from joining my battle!?  :angry:

 

 

Jookin' k :P

 

[theFiringHand 21,351]

Okay, so you mean to say we can join battles we wanna by just selecting a map, say Solikamsk, and click "battle" and enter the battle we selected? Like, there is a "Play" button too, but just asking..

No, that's not what I mean. What I'm saying is, look at the list of available battles, click on one that is on the map you want to play on, and click "Play"

[arnav0506 2,777]

No, that's not what I mean. What I'm saying is, look at the list of available battles, click on one that is on the map you want to play on, and click "Join"

Oh Lol Okay Thanks :D

[V.I.R.4.J 625]

but the battle would've been empty anyway.

how can u be so sure that if anyone (he) creates a battle no one will join?

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

If he creates a battle-button-battle he will not play his favorite map.

 

If he creates a Barda battle, it is empty. It would be cool that all subsequent Battle-Button-Users would join in there.

 

If he means to play some special mode, he cuold have made it private.

[VYAZ_PRO 3]

THIS IS GREATLY BAD !!!

WE R FORCED TO BUY PRO PASSES

[Bydo 20,120]

Casual players don't want to have to sift through battles. They want to click a button and get into the action. That's the whole point.

I'm fully aware of why it was placed into the system .. it still a waste

[Reallusion 9]

Casual players don't want to have to sift through battles. They want to click a button and get into the action. That's the whole point.

It would seem more obvious that casual players want to pick a battle they will enjoy.  Dropping someone into an unfamiliar map an lopsided teams would not be enjoyable.  The automated battle creation will not help casual players.

[Reallusion 9]

If he creates a battle-button-battle he will not play his favorite map.

 

If he creates a Barda battle, it is empty. It would be cool that all subsequent Battle-Button-Users would join in there.

 

If he means to play some special mode, he cuold have made it private.

Agreed.  I tried using the Battle button a couple of times and it dropped me into battles with no other tanks. 

[Reallusion 9]

No, you don't have to click the Battle button over and over till "destiny" brings you to a Barda map. All you need to do is look at the battle list and select a battle that's taking place on Barda. If there are none on your server, try another server. The ONLY difference is that in the past you had the option to create a battle on Barda, but the battle would've been empty anyway.

Without a Pro Pass, how do I get to a battle on the Subway map if there isn't a Subway battle to select?

[Dliver 436]

No, you don't have to click the Battle button over and over till "destiny" brings you to a Barda map. All you need to do is look at the battle list and select a battle that's taking place on Barda. If there are none on your server, try another server. The ONLY difference is that in the past you had the option to create a battle on Barda, but the battle would've been empty anyway.

But what if there is no Barda map already created. Then it's " Sorry, Tough Luck, go buy a pro pass then you can play the maps you want." First you guys took away our choices as to options for battles unless we pay, now you've taken our choice for maps away from us unless we pay.

Edited November 28, 2016 by Dliver

[Dliver 436]

Casual players don't want to have to sift through battles. They want to click a button and get into the action. That's the whole point.

Casual players want to play the maps they like, not thrown into a battle on a map they don't like. I form battles and never have had a problem having players show up. I also invite players from my friend list too. So getting players in a game is really no problem. Once again smoke and mirrors to get players to pay.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Without a Pro Pass, how do I get to a battle on the Subway map if there isn't a Subway battle to select?

But what if there is no Barda map already created. Then it's " Sorry Tough Luck, go buy a pro pass the you can play the maps you want." First you guys took away our choices as to options for battles unless we pay, now you've taken our choice for maps away from us unless we pay.

That is the downside, however the map-making system has actually a higher probability of creating a battle on less-popular maps than they have of being created by players. You can also purchase the PRO pass :D

[Bydo 20,120]

what happens when we the regular players have a missions for a certain map and there is none then what .. we now have to ask pro passes players to create one .. is this not a form of begging / and flooding the chat room for a useless item that should never have been removed by tanki...we all ready seen what happened when you gave us gold box's how many times the chat room had to be closed along with a surplus of banns issued ...

 

2.4.2. Begging in any form, including requests to transfer funds, game values or crystals;

 

– flooding, flaming, spam, printing in capital letters (CAPS LOCK);

 

 

also as a player its our choice to pick the battles we  want to go into not a computer ,it  has no idea what type of battles we  like .. even if they do choose one who's to say its a battle that would have good players in .. some of us know the good players  ... there are also good players who play real good and at times we enjoy going to battles with them ..

Edited November 28, 2016 by frozen_heart

[shevycomeairoe33 0]

Creating a battle is vital to completing daily missions.  Removing "non-pro players" ability to create battles, puts them at a further disadvantage to pro and premium players.  Seems more likely that this is a  way to get people to need to play pro.  

 

Using ease of use as the reason to justify forcing people to move to pro isa smoke screen.   People could use the battle button or create a battle they needed to complete a daily mission.  It would have been just as easy to have the battle button route only to standard 15 minute games and still allow non-pro players to create battles.  This would allow non-pro players who created battles to "not be interrupted" as the battle button would only route to standard battles and not those created by non-pro players.

 

Now if you want to have to have a battle with just a friend you have to spend crystal and be a "Pro".  Great way to get more people spend  crystals on "pro battles." 

[Rolling_Thunder69 34]

This is horrible, i don't want to play in maps i don't like.

 

How am I supposed to do my daily mission *Chore of Rio keep joining and leaving games till i find one.  Oh, that will help gameplay.

 

* From the "rebalance" neutering of my Isida accounts

* removing the daily GIFT

* separating paints and protection

* hugely increasing the cost of protection

* hugely increasing the cost of everything

* Battle Button... enough said.

* The increase of cost of crystals in the store

 

I think i'm just about the point where i'm done with tanki.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

This is horrible, i don't want to play in maps i don't like.

 

How am I supposed to do my daily mission *Chore of Rio keep joining and leaving games till i find one.  Oh, that will help gameplay.

 

* From the "rebalance" neutering of my Isida accounts

* removing the daily GIFT

* separating paints and protection

* hugely increasing the cost of protection

* hugely increasing the cost of everything

* Battle Button... enough said.

* The increase of cost of crystals in the store

 

I think i'm just about the point where i'm done with tanki.

Green was good, though. :)

[3x3cube 288]

Green was good, though. :)

He didn't like it. Hhh